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I really enjoyed that even with all of Debbie's crazy, she saw through Cirie like she was made of glass. Same with Cirie seeing through Tai.
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To be fair Tai was doing everything he possibly could to tell her without telling her.
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Mar 10, 2017 17:29
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Fast Luck posted:To be fair Tai was doing everything he possibly could to tell her without telling her. Hmm, I didn't get that impression at all. But I don't think we got to see very much of the overall workings of blue tribe so the alignments there might be way lost on me.
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Mar 10, 2017 17:32
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I've seen every episode of this show and I still barely remember a few of the contestants. Imagine someone coming in blind as a prospective new fan having no clue of the backstory but being expected to know it, and not even consistently getting a name card for each character when they're shown.
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Poque posted:Hmm, I didn't get that impression at all. But I don't think we got to see very much of the overall workings of blue tribe so the alignments there might be way lost on me.  , I don't know how any player would miss it
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Mar 10, 2017 18:00
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Bigass Moth posted:I've seen every episode of this show and I still barely remember a few of the contestants. Imagine someone coming in blind as a prospective new fan having no clue of the backstory but being expected to know it, and not even consistently getting a name card for each character when they're shown. its season 36. How many new viewers could there be, I wonder?
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Mar 10, 2017 18:38
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DutchDupe posted:
Ozzy's a douche, but only in retrospect, somehow. I enjoy watching him but I don't like what I saw afterwards.
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Mar 10, 2017 20:59
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blue squares posted:its season 36. How many new viewers could there be, I wonder? Millennials vs Gen X brought in at least some new viewers, just due to the theme. It was the first season that one of my coworkers watched, and he's now watching this season too.
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Mar 10, 2017 21:34
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Can we all appreciate how Brad Culpepper got like, zero confessionals.
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Max posted:Can we all appreciate how Brad Culpepper got like, zero confessionals. he got one with his own dumb hashtag in the first hour. but otherwise, shockingly low visibility for one of Jeff's random favorites.
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Mar 10, 2017 23:53
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Watching Malcolm's favorite moments from Survivor, it's clear he HATES Skupin.
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What's the go-to place for non-Americans to see secret scenes?
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Kaoh Rong 1st time watchthrough: lol this motherfucker got pulled from the game and took an idol with him instead of giving it to his buddy
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Ozzy's a petty douche but there's absolutely nothing wrong with him not trusting Cirie. Cirie admitted as much. Ozzy may be motivated too much by petty revenge or something but the thought process is the right one. A player with a legendary reputation for manipulating people screwed you over so you don't want to trust them again. I love Cirie so I'm not hating on her. She's just in a really difficult spot because her rep precedes her. The only way you can really combat that is to go against type and convince players you're different (at least until you see an opening for a bigger play) That's tough but if you act the exact way everyone expects you to then you're just reinforcing that reputation. That's part of what Tony did. That's part of what Ciera did. Cirie has to stop scrambling and send a different impression before it's too late. Or, you know, it's early so someone could gently caress up big or there could be a swap and that could kick her out of the spotlight.
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Mar 11, 2017 00:32
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Max posted:Watching Malcolm's favorite moments from Survivor, it's clear he HATES Skupin. In hindsight, that's a very valid position to have.
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The Lord Bude posted:In hindsight, that's a very valid position to have. Oh for sure. It's just funny when he lists "Skupin falling in the fire" and "Skupin getting hit in the head with a coconut" as some of his favorite moments.
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Mar 11, 2017 02:35
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Was Skupin in hot water by the time they all went out to Fiji?
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Propaganda Machine posted:Was Skupin in hot water by the time they all went out to Fiji? Wiki says he was arrested in Feb 2016, so yeah
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Max posted:Watching Malcolm's favorite moments from Survivor, it's clear he HATES Skupin. That's the bare minimum for being human
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STAC Goat posted:Ozzy's a petty douche but there's absolutely nothing wrong with him not trusting Cirie. Cirie admitted as much. Ozzy may be motivated too much by petty revenge or something but the thought process is the right one. A player with a legendary reputation for manipulating people screwed you over so you don't want to trust them again. Ozzy says in the episode "The thing with me and Cirie, it really wasn't anything because she just went along with what my alliance decided to do, so I can't hold that against her." That doesn't really sound too bad to me, I don't get why people are holding that against him. Also, getting personal revenge on people who voted you out is a tale as old as Survivor time. Jerri really wanted to vote out Boston Rob in All-Stars. Kass really wanted to vote out Woo in Seocnd Chance. Rob C has talked about how he wanted the satisfaction of voting out Jenna in All-Stars. What's being human without being at least a little petty.
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It seems pretty normal to not trust the person that voted you out of another season in the past. It's not petty, it's just common sense that they probably aren't someone you want to ally with again.
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I'm also not totally sure "I know I voted you out last time, are we good?" is the best way to make it good. Maybe "It's really nice to see a familiar face here, you'd better believe I'm planning to work closely with you!" I'm honestly not sure but I do think the latter works better
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Fast Luck posted:I'm also not totally sure "I know I voted you out last time, are we good?" is the best way to make it good. Maybe "It's really nice to see a familiar face here, you'd better believe I'm planning to work closely with you!" And Cirie is a big enough threat that she probably should want to work with alpha males who could shield her a while. If she joins lesser players like, say, Sierra, Sarah, Troyzan and Caleb is there any way she isn't first out of that group?
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Bigass Moth posted:I've seen every episode of this show and I still barely remember a few of the contestants. Imagine someone coming in blind as a prospective new fan having no clue of the backstory but being expected to know it, and not even consistently getting a name card for each character when they're shown. Westeros ain't got poo poo on Survivor's convoluted history. I tend to skip the all-newbie seasons these days, so I'm neither a novice nor a constant viewer. I just remember Sandra as the one who somehow beat Pavarti (Robbed! To this day!) way back in the day. Always thought she was over-rated, but every episode she survives just increases her legend. Tony and Sierra playing themselves out of the game is a perfect start.
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Not overly enthused about the first episode, I found myself occasionally just putting it on "background tab" on PC and doing other stuff simultaneously. It's just extremely uninteresting to put guys like Tai or Caleb back in the game right away, and I really would prefer to spend my free time doing something other than watching Cirie year after year. I don't recall watching the season that Tony won. How did that happen anyway? I mean really, there were like five people or something who felt that this guy should have million dollars? Please clarify  Also, how am I supposed to tell Malcolm and Ozzy apart? Ozzy has some slight curl in his hair that Malcolm doesn't? Maybe I'll just need to learn their island clothes. Bolivar fucked around with this message at 08:30 on Mar 12, 2017 |
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Bolivar posted:Not overly enthused about the first episode, I found myself occasionally just putting it on "background tab" on PC and doing other stuff simultaneously. It's just extremely uninteresting to put guys like Tai or Caleb back in the game right away, and I really would prefer to spend my free time doing something other than watching Cirie year after year. Cagayan is the season you're thinking of. What happened was that Tony made it to F3 with two other people, Kass and Woo (both of whom appeared in Second Chances). Woo (who had done very actual little in the game) had the deciding vote on who to take to F2: his ally Tony, or the easy win with Kass. He picked Tony.
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ApplesandOranges posted:Cagayan is the season you're thinking of. What happened was that Tony made it to F3 with two other people, Kass and Woo (both of whom appeared in Second Chances). Woo (who had done very actual little in the game) had the deciding vote on who to take to F2: his ally Tony, or the easy win with Kass. He picked Tony. Oh ok, missed that season entirely. Which is probably for the best, seeing how Kass is clearly the worst human being of all time among the cast history. I've seen this ending referred to a bunch of times in later seasons, for sure. Always refreshing when some one doesn't just "play the game", but oh man Woo.
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It was a final 2 against Woo. He definitely deserved to win under the circumstances but Woo completely blew it. Tony's ugliest play was having a special idol (playable after votes are read) and lying at Tribal about it being playable at the final 4. Jeff agreed it was a special idol but would not comment on the lie. "Jeff did a great job of not jeopardizing my game. He just went along with it."
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Bolivar posted:Oh ok, missed that season entirely. Which is probably for the best, seeing how Kass is clearly the worst human being of all time among the cast history. To re-iterate the mistake, Tony won 8-1 against Woo. Probst polled the jury at the reunion how the vote would have went if it was Woo and Kass in the F2. Woo would have won 8-1. Tony had admittedly way too much power in the game, with his special idol (that could be played after votes were read), but he did still use it intelligently; we've seen advantages that have been squandered in the past (extra votes have never been used correctly, for instance).
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ApplesandOranges posted:
Ok now the whole scene with "I'm off to find an idol, WOOWOOWOOWOO" sounds funnier  I was happy to see Ciera gone right away before she can ruin the season, but Tony could have stayed a bit longer for sure...
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Bolivar posted:Oh ok, missed that season entirely. Which is probably for the best, seeing how Kass is clearly the worst human being of all time among the cast history. this is really unfair to kass when colton still exists. also cagayan is a very good season.
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Mar 12, 2017 10:11
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Tony winning is one of my favorite what if's, where if somehow Tony had won final immunity, I think Woo actually had a shot at winning the whole thing (provided Tony didn't drop kick him on to the Jury.) I think everyone saw it as someone's unambiguous chance to finally get rid of Tony, and he didn't take the shot because he'd rather sit next to someone that deserved to make it to the end, in his own words. Kass immediately saying Woo would have beat her in her exit confessional was pretty indicative of what was going to happen.
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My favourite 'what if' would actually have been if David hadn't played his idol for Jessica last season, just because of all the potential ramifications that could have happened afterwards. Come to think of it, there's never been a rock draw before the merge, right? If someone gets eliminated by rock draw when there are still separate tribes, does Probst still goes 'X voted out last tribal council' when the tribes meet for the challenge?
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ApplesandOranges posted:My favourite 'what if' would actually have been if David hadn't played his idol for Jessica last season, just because of all the potential ramifications that could have happened afterwards. Probably "X Drew a rock." But there is no way in my mind that people's loyalties would be that solid pre-merge to force a rock draw.
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I bet Jeff wouldn't reference the Rock Draw. You aren't supposed to know what happens on the other tribes. You know what the others tell you during swaps or merges.
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Mar 12, 2017 20:42
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Bolivar posted:Also, how am I supposed to tell Malcolm and Ozzy apart? Ozzy has some slight curl in his hair that Malcolm doesn't? Maybe I'll just need to learn their island clothes. Are you colour blind? Ozzy's hair is way darker than Malcolm's
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Haha, rewatching the first episode, Ciera's "I don't want to be the first person voted out" line is even better.
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Lone Goat posted:Are you colour blind? Ozzy's hair is way darker than Malcolm's No, they both have nice green hair 
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Max posted:Haha, rewatching the first episode, Ciera's "I don't want to be the first person voted out" line is even better. Everyone said it in a confessional. They used hers because she got voted out. Except Malcolm. No way in a thousand games of this cast would he go home first.
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