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Evil_Greven posted:Hmm... well this isn't looking like a great trajectory so far gettin to be bout that time to revise the 'ol y-axis. may as well zero it out for where we're headed.
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Anybody know of any good information about housing and sea level rise? The climate change housing crash is going to be intense. 30 year amortization periods is a long loving time. I'm curious when mortgage companies stop signing off on homes because their investments might be literally underwater before they start making their money back. The first house that gets denied is going to set off a crash that could easily lead to a depression. These are houses that lose ALL value. Billions of assets just disappear.
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I don't, but I will note that nobody should use any of the sea level rise simulators that you see linked now and then to determine if an area will be underwater at a given sea level rise, as they define the average sea level (i.e. at the average tide), so you need to at least add half of the tidal range at a given location to your chosen sea level rise to get a map of which areas will be flooded twice per day. The difference in flat regions can amount to several kilometers. And then if you don't want your house to be flooded once a year or so, you need to add another meter or more for tidal/storm surges.
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Placid Marmot posted:I don't, but I will note that nobody should use any of the sea level rise simulators that you see linked now and then to determine if an area will be underwater at a given sea level rise, as they define the average sea level (i.e. at the average tide), so you need to at least add half of the tidal range at a given location to your chosen sea level rise to get a map of which areas will be flooded twice per day. The difference in flat regions can amount to several kilometers. And then if you don't want your house to be flooded once a year or so, you need to add another meter or more for tidal/storm surges.
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Plus if you're simply going off average global sea level rise you might underestimate sea level rise in the region you're looking at, since some regions are expected to see sea levels rise a good deal faster than others. (Though obviously this means some areas are less vulnerable too.) Another thing to note it alot of these handles lakes badly so that landlocked lake filled by rainwater? suddenly sinks the neighborhood beneath the waves
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# ? Mar 10, 2017 23:43 |
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I live on a hill Hill people reign supreme now just as they did 10,000 BC.
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vermin posted:I live on a hill I'm not roman BUT I do live on one of 3 hills in the capital of a rotting civilization! ama
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# ? Mar 11, 2017 00:59 |
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Jack2142 posted:Another thing to note it alot of these handles lakes badly so that landlocked lake filled by rainwater? suddenly sinks the neighborhood beneath the waves
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Salt Fish posted:I'm not roman BUT I do live on one of 3 hills in the capital of a rotting civilization! What are your thoughts on clogging the guns of the GOP with our blood?
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# ? Mar 11, 2017 15:31 |
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I'm in the middle of writing a paper on climate change and one of my sources just got shut down by the trump administration. The NOAA arctic report card has been axed this morning
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That's a pretty good post/custom title combo.
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# ? Mar 11, 2017 23:15 |
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Yeah a lot of my building controls and HVAC and energy classes rely heavily on climate/temp/environmental/solar data from NOAA and EPA and energyStar websites, tools like eQuest, Portfolio Manager, etc.. I've been afraid to check and see if they're still around. I mean Portfolio Manager is literally a tool for people with multiple properties to make cost-benefit-analysis decisions for their properties' maintenance and energy costs and how to reduce those financial costs, but I am pretty sure it's gone or will go away soon.
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Hello Sailor posted:That's a pretty good post/custom title combo. Thank you. Someone got very mad when I brought up how Hillary was being covered in Canadian news.
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The website is still up.
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Earth's oceans are warming 13% faster than thought, and accelerating quote:Fortunately, a paper just published today in Science Advances uses a new strategy to improve upon our understanding of ocean heating to estimate the total global warming from 1960 to 2015. I was fortunate to co-author the study, which uses several innovative steps to make improvements. Direct link to the paper: http://advances.sciencemag.org/content/3/3/e1601545
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https://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/news/20170315/quote:February 2017 Was Second Warmest February On Record and: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/15/science/great-barrier-reef-coral-climate-change-dieoff.html quote:Large Sections of Australia’s Great Reef Are Now Dead, Scientists Find Just more bad news all around.
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# ? Mar 15, 2017 21:54 |
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C'monnnnnn optimists! Tell us how we're gonna solve this!
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call to action posted:C'monnnnnn optimists! Tell us how we're gonna solve this! Liberation is inevitable. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioFG999aOCs&t=60s (0:01:00 - 0:02:40) quote:Change–and everything is change; nothing can be held on to–to the degree that you go with a stream, you see, you are are still, you are flowing with it. But to the degree you resist the stream, then you notice that the current is rushing past you and fighting you. So swim with it, go with it, and you’re there. You’re at rest. And this is of course particularly true when it comes to those moments when life really seems to be going to take us away, and the stream of change is going to swallow us completely. The moment of death, and we think, ‘Oh-oh, this is it. This is the end.’ And so at death we withdraw, say ‘No, no, no, not that, not yet, please.’
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FORUMS USER 1135 posted:https://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/news/20170315/ Is that reef die off due primarily due to temperature or other effects like acidification?
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hobbesmaster posted:Is that reef die off due primarily due to temperature or other effects like acidification? Heat, per the article.
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call to action posted:C'monnnnnn optimists! Tell us how we're gonna solve this! The Earth will cleanse the infestation.
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# ? Mar 15, 2017 23:14 |
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and to think the Arctic is heating at twice the rate! No pretty reefs to look up there though
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Minge Binge posted:and to think the Arctic is heating at twice the rate! No pretty reefs to look up there though Not yet In another thread last week someone linked an article about men's sperm getting deformed just in the last few decades, so natural selection might save the planet from humans anyway, lol
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got any sevens posted:Not yet I think Disc Vox did his/her magic on that story. Maybe it was another one I dunno.
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got any sevens posted:Not yet At this point I would shed tears of unending relief at the revelation that the USA had secretly sterilized the bulk of the worlds population through an undetectable aerosol or something.
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Oh look, another Rime post.
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# ? Mar 16, 2017 01:56 |
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Minge Binge posted:and to think the Arctic is heating at twice the rate! No pretty reefs to look up there though One of the things that I find really challenging is convincing people that actually, yes, it does matter that the Arctic and the oceans in general are warming. It's hard to break through the initial reaction of "Oh, it's sad about the polar bears and penguins, but it's not the end of the world!" Bridging that gulf to get people to understand that this is affecting weather patterns here, right now feels like an insurmountable challenge sometimes.
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Paradoxish posted:One of the things that I find really challenging is convincing people that actually, yes, it does matter that the Arctic and the oceans in general are warming. It's hard to break through the initial reaction of "Oh, it's sad about the polar bears and penguins, but it's not the end of the world!" Bridging that gulf to get people to understand that this is affecting weather patterns here, right now feels like an insurmountable challenge sometimes. hopefully we'll get a category 6 monster tornado rip through the heartland pretty soon. that'll show them.
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# ? Mar 16, 2017 05:34 |
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What happened to Larsen C? Haven't heard about it in a while.
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enraged_camel posted:hopefully we'll get a category 6 monster tornado rip through the heartland pretty soon. that'll show them. don't know if that will work. there was a monster tornado in joplin in 2011. it was blamed on not praying enough/not following the Cardinals close enough/millenials.
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call to action posted:C'monnnnnn optimists! Tell us how we're gonna solve this! Positivity
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Darth Walrus posted:What happened to Larsen C? Haven't heard about it in a while. Couldn't find anything new. Might not hear about it again given likely information lockdown on anything to do with climate.
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another battle won in the war on coal https://twitter.com/JeffScheid/status/842508131406036992 ed: woah this was not the thread I meant to post this in but still works I guess
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eNeMeE posted:Couldn't find anything new. There's just not much to say. The chunk is likely going to break up next year if it doesn't this year, and after that it'll be a matter of observing things to verify some hypothesis on ice calving mechanics and what it'll mean to the overall structure of the shelf. In a worst case scenario, where the entire structure destabilizes and the ice shelf begins to break up over the course of the next few years, what we'll see is a small but significant increase in the rate of sea level raise as glacial ice flows more freely into the ocean.
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# ? Mar 17, 2017 00:35 |
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There should be a climate fund you can buy and hold as a stock. Not with stuff like solar energy companies, but civil engineering firms (for the large projects we'll need to hold the seas back), gun manufacturers, and shorts on coastal real estate.
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call to action posted:There should be a climate fund you can buy and hold as a stock. Not with stuff like solar energy companies, but civil engineering firms (for the large projects we'll need to hold the seas back), gun manufacturers, and shorts on coastal real estate. Doubtless there are. This isn't precisely what you're looking for (primarily due to the ideology component heh), but activist investors are all. Over. Climate change. This is one of the few things people predicted and got right about the phenomenon. Money is talking about climate change in that specific way. I'd add that from a non-revolutionary standpoint this is probably one of the most effective ways to promote a change in perspective. It's still mercenary poo poo capitalism but considering we're not gonna get rid of it any time soon, it's a powerful way to advocate. You can also see a lot of private land trusts, REITs and otherwise, getting in on the game. It pays to stop beetles from decimating your wildlife reserves if their preservation is your sole purpose for existence. Gunshow Poophole fucked around with this message at 17:35 on Mar 17, 2017 |
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lmao we're hosed. what a time to be loving alive
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# ? Mar 20, 2017 21:59 |
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Sir, this is a Starbucks.
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Remember when people assumed that we'd at least be trending towards greater climate acceptance/mitigation work as the signs of climate change made themselves obvious? lolWaryWarren posted:Sir, this is a Starbucks. Starbucks is next door.
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call to action posted:Remember when people assumed that we'd at least be trending towards greater climate acceptance/mitigation work as the signs of climate change made themselves obvious? Nope.
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