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mandatory lesbian posted:eh it was shity when the prize for Gen 1 slots was a friggin porygon so i'm okay with them upgrading it to something worthwhile The Gen 1 Game Corner is in Celadon, so you could get a Porygon before fighting Erika.
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EclecticTastes posted:Bullshit subtypes for Steel and Dragon are why I always endeavor to have at least one move of every type present on my team (I even managed it the past two gens, though both required some creativity to cover some gaps*). Bronzong was always the worst, you never knew if you'd need Fire or Ground until after you'd wasted a turn. I'd honestly say Steel/Psychic is worse than Steel/Dragon, but it might just be that Metagross and Bronzong are just massive pains in the rear end. These days steel doesn't protect against ghost or dark, so steel/psychic is a lot more manageable. Steel/fairy is the new thing.
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Some Numbers posted:The Gen 1 Game Corner is in Celadon, so you could get a Porygon before fighting Erika. eirika isn't the third gym, in badge order
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Mar 11, 2017 02:52
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mandatory lesbian posted:eirika isn't the third gym, in badge order Right, she's fourth, meaning you can do the Game Corner technically between 3 and 4
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EclecticTastes posted:Bullshit subtypes for Steel and Dragon are why I always endeavor to have at least one move of every type present on my team (I even managed it the past two gens, though both required some creativity to cover some gaps*). Bronzong was always the worst, you never knew if you'd need Fire or Ground until after you'd wasted a turn. I'd honestly say Steel/Psychic is worse than Steel/Dragon, but it might just be that Metagross and Bronzong are just massive pains in the rear end. Steel/Psychic isn't as ridiculous anymore due to Steel losing Dark and Ghost resistances. Steel/Dragon has a whopping two weaknesses and nine resistances, while Steel/Psychic has four weaknesses and nine resistances. Metagross lost out when it was made physical because physical Psychic is pretty bad. It still has a bullshit mega though. Not the most bullshit, but still bullshit.
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mandatory lesbian posted:also OFS never showed any stats so i'm assuming something is terrible about it  Huge attack, reasonably fast, and decent enough defenses given steel/dragon resistances.  Except wait a minute. Speed Boost boosts its speed by one stage every turn, so its good speed becomes unassailable with due haste. Ah, those are its level-up moves down there. What's up with those?  Shift Gear, +2 speed and +1 attack. A better Dragon Dance. gently caress. So it doesn't need speed boost to become unreasonably fast unreasonably fast. Iron Head and Dragon Claw are all the STABs it needs. That's not even counting what it gets from TMs and move tutors, which is about like 8 types worth of coverage, which you barely need. Only two types resist dragon and Iron Head dunks on one of those.  While I'm here I'll just correct the category in the Pokedex...
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Mar 11, 2017 03:02
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Yeah, that's a pretty MEGAWEAPON.
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There are a bunch of types that lack good physical and/or special moves, or are severely lacking in moves that don't have a miss rate that will gently caress you over when you least expect it
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mandatory lesbian posted:holy poo poo that thing is a monster You could say it's a pocket monster  
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Why the gently caress does a god drat backhoe have 100 base speed, and speed boost. Your telling me a piece of construction equipment is as fast as zaptos on turn one and gets 50% faster every turn. Did they stick nitros on it or something? Edit: Thier stupid overpowered fakemon can't even be overpowered in thematic way. Vorpal Cat fucked around with this message at 03:15 on Mar 11, 2017 |
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Vorpal Cat posted:Why the gently caress does a god drat backhoe have 100 base speed, and speed boost. Your telling me a piece of construction equipment is as fast as zaptos on turn one and gets 50% faster every turn. Did they stick nitros on it or something? 
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That is on top of one of the best defensive typings in the game. Goddamn.
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Tracton isn't even the most broken fakemon. did I say Teacton? I meant MEGAWEAPON.
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Reminds me of my favorite childhood book.
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It is, however, pretty much the only physical attacker ever to not have access to earthquake, rock slide, or stone edge. I'm guessing that's what they thought was balanced about it. It's moveset is pretty much guaranteed to be: Dragon Claw Iron Head Shift Gear / Swords Dance X-Scissor / Shadow Claw / Aerial Ace It has no other coverage to speak of except for the usual random assortment of special attacks. e: forgot about move tutors lol gently caress this thing. dis astranagant fucked around with this message at 03:53 on Mar 11, 2017 |
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There's only one way to make Tracton more powerful
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 Steel/Dragon, with Speed Boost ability, Iron Head, Dragon Claw, and Shift Gear?
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What the hell are those abilities? Speed Boost is strictly better than Motor Drive, why does it get one or the other on a coin flip? The only purpose that has is to poo poo on people who got unlucky and weren't digging around for information on the game.
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LAY-ZX posted:What the hell are those abilities? Speed Boost is strictly better than Motor Drive, why does it get one or the other on a coin flip? The only purpose that has is to poo poo on people who got unlucky and weren't digging around for information on the game. Motor Drive also gives immunity to electric so it's not strictly worse, just mostly worse.
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LAY-ZX posted:What the hell are those abilities? Speed Boost is strictly better than Motor Drive, why does it get one or the other on a coin flip? The only purpose that has is to poo poo on people who got unlucky and weren't digging around for information on the game. It's not like the actual games don't do that. Bewear: Coin flip between a clumsy bear who can't use items vs a fluffy bear that resists every contact move in the game in exchange for a weakness to fire.
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WrightOfWay posted:Motor Drive also gives immunity to electric so it's not strictly worse, just mostly worse. I didn't know Motor Drive came with immunity, I guess that makes it...marginally better? Dr Subterfuge posted:It's not like the actual games don't do that. Bewear: Coin flip between a clumsy bear who can't use items vs a fluffy bear that resists every contact move in the game in exchange for a weakness to fire. But those aren't two abilities that do the same thing, except one of them more consistently.
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LAY-ZX posted:But those aren't two abilities that do the same thing, except one of them more consistently. Well okay not strictly strictly, but not having items effect you has the narrowest of narrow use cases and the other one is amazing.
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With Shift Gear around, it's reasonable to take Motor Drive to give Tracton a real easy entry point off of its extra immunity.
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:With Shift Gear around, it's reasonable to take Motor Drive to give Tracton a real easy entry point off of its extra immunity. Yeah, I don't think I'd use shift gear on a speed boost one, opting instead for Swords Dance to get my better than Dragon Dance use of a turn in. But being faster than scarfed pokemon after 1 turn of setup does have its usess
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LAY-ZX posted:But those aren't two abilities that do the same thing, except one of them more consistently. A better example would be Gen V Reuniclus. It had one ability that prevented all forms of indirect damage, and one ability that only prevented damage from weather (which counted as indirect damage.) And in those games, you had no way to change your Pokemon's ability, so it would be stuck with the worse version permanently. Of course next gen buffed said ability to the point where it was generally the better pick in doubles, and introduced a way to change your Pokemon's ability.
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I think I'd take Motor Drive purely to add electrical immunity to the Steel/Dragon gently caress-you resistance portfolio.
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So, for non poke maniacs, why is speed so good to have when attacks are always locked one-to-one?
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Added Space posted:So, for non poke maniacs, why is speed so good to have when attacks are always locked one-to-one? If you kill your enemy in a single hit, then they won't do anything to you, barring fringe abilities. It may be locked one-to-one, but it's a blitzkrieg nonetheless.
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Added Space posted:So, for non poke maniacs, why is speed so good to have when attacks are always locked one-to-one? If you go first, you're more likely to win damage races and you get a chance to prevent your opponent from attacking at all. Either by giving them a status ailment (sleep, freeze, paralysis), making them flinch, or just knocking them out with one attack. It's a huge advantage in basically any circumstance.
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Added Space posted:So, for non poke maniacs, why is speed so good to have when attacks are always locked one-to-one? Because pokemon is a game of rocket tag. An especially tanky pokemon might survive 3 or 4 hits. Also, when you drop one of your opponent's guys before it gets to attack your opponent doesn't get to do anything but switch in a replacement that turn.
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If it didn't learn Shift Gear, Speed Boost would be an autopick, but being immune to electric attacks - especially Thunder Wave - is really attractive and having Shift Gear makes that even better.Added Space posted:So, for non poke maniacs, why is speed so good to have when attacks are always locked one-to-one? If your speed is higher, you move first 100% of the time, which is important because hitting the opponent before they use their healing move is better than after. In this specific case, Iron Head has a 30% chance of preventing the opponent from taking their turn, but only if you're faster. Which our killdozer will be. Some Numbers fucked around with this message at 05:05 on Mar 11, 2017 |
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:
Okay, this is a great one. Nice job on this, Uranium.  Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:
This is... a thing, but hey, I guess- Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:
What. What the actual gently caress.
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The thing about backhoe dragon is, it's actually the tip of the iceberg of overpowered sweepers in this game. If anything, it's just the introduction to them.
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Did OFS ever show us Tracton/Crane Beast's pokedex entry?
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So, I decided to get in on this shitshow and decided to check if there was any way to trigger trade evolutions with the servers down from the DMCA. I found that cheatengine would allow it, but jesus christ look at this. https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemonuranium/comments/519gw5/evolving_trade_pokemon/ Apparently discussing how to get trade evolutions that are otherwise impossible to obtain is "ruining the fun"  edit: okay apparently the servers are back up, but still that's ridiculous SirSamVimes fucked around with this message at 05:38 on Mar 11, 2017 |
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So in what is supposed to be a fan game designed to challenge experienced players...that challenge goes straight out the window by allowing a player to acquire a Legendary-tier Pokemon not by fighting it, but by doing an easily-solvable minigame a bunch of times and just buying it. 
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