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hifi posted:what do they do for garbage disposals in latvia
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Mar 11, 2017 19:27
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cinci zoo sniper posted:serious question, what do you mean by garbage disposal
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Mar 11, 2017 19:30
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anthonypants posted:it sits under the drain in your kitchen sink so you can dump food waste into your sink, and it is usually activated by a switch which blends up the food waste into smaller bits so they won't clog up your pipes you carefully throw out your food waste into the waste bucket. if there's alot of it, it's dumped into toilet. if a little bit, just scoops out of sink afterwards.
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Mar 11, 2017 19:33
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garbage disposals are bad
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Mar 11, 2017 19:34
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mishaq posted:garbage disposals are bad
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Mar 11, 2017 19:35
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we just have small metallic inserts in sinks, bowl shaped, that catch the big pieces and that you can conveniently take out and dump into the bn
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Mar 11, 2017 19:37
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cinci zoo sniper posted:we just have small metallic inserts in sinks, bowl shaped, that catch the big pieces and that you can conveniently take out and dump into the bn that's too hard for us, instead we throw everything down the drain and then pay a plumber $500 every few years to clear out our clogged pipes/fix the damage caused by the clog
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Mar 11, 2017 19:40
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the house i grew up in had two sewage backups that flooded the basement in the span of 18 months because the sewage line serving my street was clogged with a bunch of grease americans dump everything down the drain
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Mar 11, 2017 19:42
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mishaq posted:the house i grew up in had two sewage backups that flooded the basement in the span of 18 months because the sewage line serving my street was clogged with a bunch of grease I had to explain to my grandmother that you weren't supposed to use it for everything, just incidental stuff that escaped from any utensils or dishware sitting in the sink for the short time it should be there. This is a woman that I watched peel potatoes straight into the thing, with the disposal running the entire time. No water, either. They replaced the thing like every year until I told them to stop.
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Mar 11, 2017 19:50
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Turqqj9gakI
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Mar 11, 2017 19:58
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lol here's something that popped up as related https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fsAAZ60tn0 why wouldn't you just throw this poo poo into the trash can (or ideally, composting but lol america)
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Mar 11, 2017 20:22
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I like the idea of composting but it only really works if everyone in a household is willing to do it the right way. ideally, neighborhoods and communities would have their own shared compost area where they could reclaim it later for planting/potting opportunities, but that would require effort and coordination: the two deadliest poisons known to the American.
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Mar 11, 2017 20:40
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i remember growing up we had a compost pile, but i'm not sure if we ever actually used it for anything or if it was just a partly-enclosed area in the corner of the backyard we tossed our food scraps into
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Mar 11, 2017 20:44
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:i remember growing up we had a compost pile, but i'm not sure if we ever actually used it for anything or if it was just a partly-enclosed area in the corner of the backyard we tossed our food scraps into we had a compost pile specifically for use with our big ol vegetable and fruit garden. one year we'd thrown some decorative corncobs from halloween decorations in the compost pile and the next spring we had straight up cornstalks growing out of the compost pile which was pretty cool. decent sweetcorn too.
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Mar 11, 2017 21:14
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fishmech posted:that makes no sense. how could you possibly wire up a light switch so that it safely switches like 300 watts of a lighting fixture but does not safely switch a 100 watt tv or something. but maybe doesn't safely switch a 2400w benchtop oven?
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Mar 11, 2017 22:31
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we have a compost. its ok. avoid meat in it. means I dont feel so bad about throwing out a bit of food coz itll turn into corn next year
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Mar 11, 2017 22:33
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echinopsis posted:but maybe doesn't safely switch a 2400w benchtop oven? that wouldn't be plugging into a US normal household socket in the first place, it'd pull somewhere around 20-22 amps to function on US power while the normal household outlet circuit is only meant for 15 amps. seconds after you switched it on the breaker would flip
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Mar 11, 2017 22:34
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echinopsis posted:but maybe doesn't safely switch a 2400w benchtop oven? you couldn't plug it into a regular outlet anyways, you need 20 amp wiring
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Mar 11, 2017 22:36
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maybe latvia doesnt have 120 volt power and running > 2000 W on a single outlet is possible there safely, but not with a light switch in the path
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Mar 11, 2017 22:37
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only the us has baby power
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mishaq posted:maybe latvia doesnt have 120 volt power and running > 2000 W on a single outlet is possible there safely, but not with a light switch in the path latvian light switches shouldn't be so fragile that they can't handle the circuit they're on, then. shouldn't be legal to sell switches that would be a fire hazard when switching a few hundred watts on or off. a single us light switch might need to handle nearly 2000 watts of high power old fashioned lights coming on or off at once without any outlets being involved after all. fishmech fucked around with this message at 22:41 on Mar 11, 2017 |
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Mar 11, 2017 22:39
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mishaq posted:maybe latvia doesnt have 120 volt power and running > 2000 W on a single outlet is possible there safely, but not with a light switch in the path
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Mar 11, 2017 22:46
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fishmech posted:latvian light switches shouldn't be so fragile that they can't handle the circuit they're on, then.
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Mar 11, 2017 22:48
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cinci zoo sniper posted:our light switches can be as made as cheap as for 1-2A @ 220-250V, which is ok for <25W/bulb lighting, and the bulk of it is various russian/belarus/turkish crap rated for <6A, which automatically makes them ineligible for even basic domestic equipment, such as electric countertop/oven, washing machines, electric kettles, and so on. and that is to ignore non-standard scenarios, such as an overload or a short that seems like it's highly dangerous, and would be at vast risk of failure even with normal incandescent bulbs. cinci zoo sniper posted:no, we just use appropriate automatic switches to regulate outlets and equipment, and dont overspend several times on lightning switches so that they theoretically can manage a 2500W electric kettle equivalent to a 100 lightbulb array ??? http://www.homedepot.com/p/Leviton-15-Amp-Single-Pole-Toggle-Switch-White-R52-01451-02W/100026991 here's a light switch that can handle full 15 amp loads. it is $0.88 at any home improvement store in the country. you can get faceplate to place over it for $0.47 fishmech fucked around with this message at 22:51 on Mar 11, 2017 |
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Mar 11, 2017 22:49
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cinci zoo sniper posted:our light switches can be as made as cheap as for 1-2A @ 220-250V, which is ok for <25W/bulb lighting, and the bulk of it is various russian/belarus/turkish crap rated for <6A, which automatically makes them ineligible for even basic domestic equipment, such as electric countertop/oven, washing machines, electric kettles, and so on. and that is to ignore non-standard scenarios, such as an overload or a short oh, lol
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Mar 11, 2017 22:50
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fishmech posted:that seems like it's highly dangerous, and would be at vast risk of failure even with normal incandescent bulbs.
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Mar 11, 2017 22:51
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latvians should probably spend extra 5 eurocent to get full rated swtches, imo
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Mar 11, 2017 22:52
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normal us lightswitches are rated for 15a resistive loads and 1/2hp inductive load butechinopsis posted:only the us has baby power
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Mar 11, 2017 22:54
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fishmech posted:latvians should probably spend extra 5 eurocent to get full rated swtches, imo
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Mar 11, 2017 22:55
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cinci zoo sniper posted:its something like <2 vs 5+ euro. fair difference for me, but unfair for vast majority probably wouldn't still cost so much, if the higher rated switches were effectively the only ones allowed to be sold legally.
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Mar 11, 2017 22:57
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DJ Commie posted:normal us lightswitches are rated for 15a resistive loads and 1/2hp inductive load but cat1 - soviet/turk crap cat2 - brands, modern rudimentals in the construction cat3 - actually used in western countries cat4 - also looks good
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Mar 11, 2017 22:57
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fishmech posted:probably wouldn't still cost so much, if the higher rated switches were effectively the only ones allowed to be sold legally.
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Mar 11, 2017 22:57
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to be clear though it is exceedingly rare for major appliances in the us to be on a wall switch. you usually only get that in cases where someone squeezed them in after the fact and is using a low-power model, since the full power versions tend to require hard wiring in the wall with no switch, or specialty plugs meant to keep people from plugging them into circuits not rated for the load. a light switch controlled outlet will tend to only be present when the there's no installed overhead/wall fixtures that are hardwired in the building, you are expected to only plug your own lighting into the controlled outlet and use other outlets for things that aren't lights. switches have to be able to handle the full load anyway tho. some places/builders are dumb though, and will have every outlet in a room wired up to a switch despite it not being helpful
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Mar 11, 2017 23:00
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cinci zoo sniper posted:that would be considered like a 3rd/4th category switch here the 15a rating is at 120v, so they are likely closer to normal stuff. a 15a 230v switch would be overkill for most anything in a house short of serious garage tools unless you have large lighting arrays 230v is great because you can get almost twice the wattage out of a 13a uk outlet over a 15a us outlet making space heaters actually useful sizes fishmech posted:to be clear though it is exceedingly rare for major appliances in the us to be on a wall switch. you usually only get that in cases where someone squeezed them in after the fact and is using a low-power model, since the full power versions tend to require hard wiring in the wall with no switch, or specialty plugs meant to keep people from plugging them into circuits not rated for the load. all correct. it gets weird, my parents new house has rooms with a duplex switchplate with a single large rocker switch for the overhead fixture and two smaller ones which control outlets. i guess $20 target floor lamps were part of the electrical design spec? DJ Commie fucked around with this message at 23:07 on Mar 11, 2017 |
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Mar 11, 2017 23:04
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industrial stuff can be 120/277v like that one fishmech posted https://www.amazon.com/Leviton-3032-2W-Toggle-Double-Pole-Grounding/dp/B002MPPTBQ/ 8 kw
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Mar 11, 2017 23:07
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other american thing: have a ceiling fan in every room of the house
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Mar 11, 2017 23:09
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajmgKKsXWtM
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Mar 11, 2017 23:10
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hifi posted:industrial stuff can be 120/277v like that one fishmech posted 
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american homes are cheaply constructed shitboxes
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