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thehandtruck
Mar 5, 2006

the thing about the jews is,

The Brown Menace posted:

i dont quite know what to make of boomers tbh

i mean the are The Enemy, in the way a force attacking you is, but they lived in just such an absurdly different time

it dawned on my after a grueling job search where i finally found something halfway decent after literally hundreds of applications accompanied by the hectoring of my boomer parents

i asked them how many jobs they had applied to, since they were butting in so much, and the answer was quite sobering: 1 application. not each, but among them, just my dad, the one. while he was walking down the street one day towards the end of his studies, a guy who knew his brother mistook him for his brother and took him to the factory he owned since my dad did not break character. at the factory, he revealed he was not his brother. guy hired him on the spot anyway, with a salary i could only dream of in todays terms. the application was successful but my dad was obviously no longer interested

i mean how do you even explain the current economic situation to a generation which is used to that sort of absurd abundance being the normal

thanks for reading my gayass parent story

https://twitter.com/aodespair/status/797063380104265733

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Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006


What kind of person votes for Trump thinking he'll implement single payer

KiteAuraan
Aug 5, 2014

JER GEDDA FERDA RADDA ARA!


the black husserl posted:

baby boomers did not do any of that poo poo. the absolute youngest baby boomers were 19 years old when the civil rights act was passed.

face it. the "greatest generation" really was. despite being racist and awful and locking up the japanese, some of the ones in power actually pushed for a better world.

then the boomers turned 40 and started dismantling it. also vietnam.

Can confirm, my grandma was born in '47 and she's homophobic and casually racist and a hardcore Trumper.

Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

:harambe:



Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:

lol, you're not compromising with "the dems" in the general election. you're compromising between the ideal and the realizable. the dems are compromising with voters in a country that elected donald loving trump just 8 years after the disaster of g w bush

understand this basic fact: if a dem candidate loses a vote from a leftist, they lose a vote. if a dem loses a vote from a swing voter, they lose a vote and the republican gains a vote (typically). therefore the smart candidate will prioritize votes from centrists over votes from their own fringe base in a general election.

this won't change under a 2 party system, and the 2 party system won't change under the system of voting enshrined in the US constitution.

change has to happen within the party structure, and that's where we have our voice. bernie understood this-- he joined the democratic party to facilitate his run -- and he ran a really amazing campaign. he didn't win, but he sure as hell set the stage for next time around by proving how much support was out there for his politics. trump understood this, too.

i know this is heresy, but a lot of poo poo that y'all take as evidence of democrats being corrupt and evil, i take as them judging a political situation and making what they believe is the best compromise available. they aren't necessarily right about the judgement-- sometimes they are frustratingly timid-- but that doesn't mean they're perfectly happy with what they got, either.

(by the way, republicans compromise too, when they need to. so if you thought both parties were equally bad, but are at all surprised at how bad trump and the GOP is now with the presidency and congressional majorities, there's your explanation. just wait til they abolish the filibuster and have even more free reign!)

I appreciate these posts that have apparently wormholed from a d&d thread circa March 2016

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde

zegermans posted:

What kind of person votes for Trump thinking he'll implement single payer

balooganism

Dixie Cretin Seaman
Jan 22, 2008

all hat and one catte
Hot Rope Guy

Business Gorillas posted:

I appreciate these posts that have apparently wormholed from a d&d thread circa March 2016

actually they wormholed from march 2000, but hang on to them, they'll be fresh again in 2032 if america is still around by then

Tonetta
Jul 9, 2013

look mother look at ME MOTHER MOTHER I AM A HOMESTIXK NOW

**methodically removes and eats own clothes*

Trump Trump Trump TRUmp TRUmP TRUMP truMP

Uncle Wemus
Mar 4, 2004


Lol Amandas a clintonista

Asimo
Sep 23, 2007


zegermans posted:

What kind of person votes for Trump thinking he'll implement single payer
"Idiots".

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

Business Gorillas posted:

I appreciate these posts that have apparently wormholed from a d&d thread circa March 2016

Well you may as well read them now since you mysteriously disappeared from posting for 9 months

Shao821
May 28, 2005

You want SHOCK?! I'll SHOCK you full of SHOCK!

I love how young liberals get their first conservative president and they immediately lose their minds

Don't worry, it'll happen over and over

And it won't get better

Lindsey O. Graham
Dec 31, 2016

"We're not generating enough angry white guys to stay in business for the long term."

- The Chief

Shao821 posted:

I love how young liberals get their first conservative president and they immediately lose their minds

Don't worry, it'll happen over and over

And it won't get better

tell 'em

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Like for real tho, post-millenials are coming up looking even more lovely than Boomers so we need to lock in some communism and make it permanent before they become a bloc, or maybe just overwhelm them entirely like the Boomers did with GenX

Maybe the coming economic holocaust will soften them a bit but I don't trust people to learn anymore

DAD LOST MY IPOD
Feb 3, 2012

Fats Dominar is on the case



the one good consequences of the election of donald j trump is the fact that amanda marcotte is suffering because of it

LinYutang
Oct 12, 2016

NEOLIBERAL SHITPOSTER

:siren:
VOTE BLUE NO MATTER WHO!!!
:siren:
https://twitter.com/Nate_Cohn/status/840213598748192769

Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 229 days!
Thinking about it, the whole idea that "racism is over" is just another case of the worst boomers assuming that their parents took care of everything for them and that they don't have to think about it.

Or at least I'm making a mental note to put it that way at some point in the future.

Epic High Five posted:

Like for real tho, post-millenials are coming up looking even more lovely than Boomers so we need to lock in some communism and make it permanent before they become a bloc, or maybe just overwhelm them entirely like the Boomers did with GenX

Maybe the coming economic holocaust will soften them a bit but I don't trust people to learn anymore

The 4chan generation.

Dixie Cretin Seaman
Jan 22, 2008

all hat and one catte
Hot Rope Guy

welp, i guess i can now honestly say that trumpcare isn't all bad :)

Concerned Citizen
Jul 22, 2007
Ramrod XTreme

Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:

welp, i guess i can now honestly say that trumpcare isn't all bad :)

it's actually a wealth transfer program from trump supporters to clinton supporters.

Tonetta
Jul 9, 2013

look mother look at ME MOTHER MOTHER I AM A HOMESTIXK NOW

**methodically removes and eats own clothes*
I love tweeter

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC

Epic High Five posted:

Like for real tho, post-millenials are coming up looking even more lovely than Boomers so we need to lock in some communism and make it permanent before they become a bloc, or maybe just overwhelm them entirely like the Boomers did with GenX

Maybe the coming economic holocaust will soften them a bit but I don't trust people to learn anymore

Whites will be a minority of Gen Z by 2020.

Don't really see the Republicans winning them in the future as a whole.

Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

:harambe:



Epic High Five posted:

Like for real tho, post-millenials are coming up looking even more lovely than Boomers so we need to lock in some communism and make it permanent before they become a bloc, or maybe just overwhelm them entirely like the Boomers did with GenX

Maybe the coming economic holocaust will soften them a bit but I don't trust people to learn anymore

otoh i dont think a bunch of thinkpieces about 13 year olds being hardcore libertarians/alt-righters is an accurate barometer

Boner Pill Connoisseur
Apr 23, 2002

I took the blue pill.

https://twitter.com/SuperJinkyDuper/status/840639805943881728

I check the phrase "i voted for" and "we voted for" interactions with ol Donny J fairly frequently, and to be honest it's more republicans mad that Trumpcare doesn't go far enough to eliminate equitibility from medical care, rather than suddenly realising that even a shift to variable rates will gently caress them in the rear end

How is your country filled with such dullards it's shocking. Only the UK is staffed with more morons per capita

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

pfizerman posted:

https://twitter.com/SuperJinkyDuper/status/840639805943881728

I check the phrase "i voted for" and "we voted for" interactions with ol Donny J fairly frequently, and to be honest it's more republicans mad that Trumpcare doesn't go far enough to eliminate equitibility from medical care, rather than suddenly realising that even a shift to variable rates will gently caress them in the rear end

How is your country filled with such dullards it's shocking. Only the UK is staffed with more morons per capita

"I need to come up with a clever tweeter name. I got it, SuperJinky Duper!"

sexpot
Nov 12, 2016

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

pfizerman posted:

How is your country filled with such dullards it's shocking. Only the UK is staffed with more morons per capita

We were founded by English immigrants, duh

ded redd
Aug 1, 2010

requesting name change to 'Obocare'

Boner Pill Connoisseur
Apr 23, 2002

I took the blue pill.

Office Pig posted:

requesting name change to 'Obocare'

Orbetteroffercare

got any sevens
Feb 9, 2013

by Cyrano4747

Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:

actually it suggests the very self-centeredness that boomers are accused of. throwing vulnerable ppl under the bus to maintain your ideological purity bc you won't accept that politics is always going to be about compromises. altho ralph nader proves this is hardly unique to millennials. just frustrating that every generation has to see a crazy rear end in a top hat gently caress poo poo up firsthand before they take elections seriously

Nader isn't why Gore lost and third parties aren't why hildog lost either. Dems should try doing things for leftists if they want their votes.

Tonetta
Jul 9, 2013

look mother look at ME MOTHER MOTHER I AM A HOMESTIXK NOW

**methodically removes and eats own clothes*
O'brotha care - some southern hick

Lindsey O. Graham
Dec 31, 2016

"We're not generating enough angry white guys to stay in business for the long term."

- The Chief

got any sevens posted:

Nader isn't why Gore lost and third parties aren't why hildog lost either. Dems should try doing things for leftists if they want their votes.

jesus would have won

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Lindsey O. Graham posted:

jesus would have won

I'd argue that American Jesus did win

Trump is the perfect representation of American Christianity

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



However real Jesus would be detained at an airport and sent by night to a forced labor camp lmao

Tonetta
Jul 9, 2013

look mother look at ME MOTHER MOTHER I AM A HOMESTIXK NOW

**methodically removes and eats own clothes*

Lindsey O. Graham posted:

jesus would have won

https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=SzphUtBcJB4

Lindsey O. Graham
Dec 31, 2016

"We're not generating enough angry white guys to stay in business for the long term."

- The Chief

Epic High Five posted:

I'd argue that American Jesus did win

Trump is the perfect representation of American Christianity

:roflolmao: :roflolmao: :roflolmao:

Lindsey O. Graham
Dec 31, 2016

"We're not generating enough angry white guys to stay in business for the long term."

- The Chief

Epic High Five posted:

However real Jesus would be detained at an airport and sent by night to a forced labor camp lmao

:agreed:

Dixie Cretin Seaman
Jan 22, 2008

all hat and one catte
Hot Rope Guy

got any sevens posted:

Dems should try doing things for leftists if they want their votes.

i get the frustration and anger but politics is hard, bro. the system makes it easier to stop changes than to push it through. gently caress, if you don't believe it for the dems, check the gop. you think paul ryan likes the dogshit healthcare plan they put out? he wants full repeal, and to get rid of medicare too. but he doesn't have the votes.

what i want to hear is, how do we do better? bc "blow up the system" isn't working. those red-stater assholes that were supposed to wake up and realize that free-market ideology is screwing them over? yea, they finally changed their minds. they want government benefits. but they aren't supporting the socialist, they're supporting the fascist, cuz they're still racist as gently caress. the left isn't some hidden supermajority. if you won't work with allies and make compromises how do you do better?

HorseRenoir
Dec 25, 2011



Pillbug

Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:

i get the frustration and anger but politics is hard, bro. the system makes it easier to stop changes than to push it through. gently caress, if you don't believe it for the dems, check the gop. you think paul ryan likes the dogshit healthcare plan they put out? he wants full repeal, and to get rid of medicare too. but he doesn't have the votes.

what i want to hear is, how do we do better? bc "blow up the system" isn't working. those red-stater assholes that were supposed to wake up and realize that free-market ideology is screwing them over? yea, they finally changed their minds. they want government benefits. but they aren't supporting the socialist, they're supporting the fascist, cuz they're still racist as gently caress. the left isn't some hidden supermajority. if you won't work with allies and make compromises how do you do better?

the left doesn't have a hidden supermajority but they don't turn out at the rates that conservatives do. increasing dem turnout in elections would flip a lot of seats really fast

Crocoswine
Aug 20, 2010

just gotta wait for the healthcare change to kill all the olds

Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 229 days!

HorseRenoir posted:

the left doesn't have a hidden supermajority but they don't turn out at the rates that conservatives do. increasing dem turnout in elections would flip a lot of seats really fast

lacking: evidence that there is a set of "leftist policies" which will produce this turnout.

as much as it was a failure of her campaign to actually talk about them as well, actual lefties didn't seem to give a crap that Clinton's policies were in fact in line with what the left claims to want in many respects

i honestly think that a large portion of the "left" just likes affirmation of the idea that they are better than the right, and the awfulness of the right, democratic polticians, and human suffering all facilitate this and are therefore nothing but the desired result

this is certainly the conclusion one reaches if one applies the analysis of right-wing policy prevent here to the behaviour of the left as well

Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 229 days!

Crocoswine posted:

just gotta wait for the healthcare change to kill all the olds

historical inevitability is just a reskin of the rapture

your faith will not save you

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Crocoswine
Aug 20, 2010

I mean, at this point I'm just vindictive and want to seem them die regardless of the outcome

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