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 oh hey its the snapchap poo poo again
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OSI bean dip posted:Weird. I wonder when Signal allowed for screenshots because it used to block attempts. Mine still does.
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Mar 12, 2017 20:26
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spankmeister posted:Mine still does. yeah it still does on android (though not ios because there's no api for that)
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Mar 12, 2017 20:27
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why would it
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Mar 12, 2017 21:02
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bobfather posted:You're using v4, right? Not the new, pretty v6? Use the betas
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Mar 12, 2017 21:10
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fishmech posted:why would it Maybe the messages should just stay encrypted if we're assuming the intended recipient is hostile?
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Mar 12, 2017 21:22
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spankmeister posted:Mine still does. its an option in settings you can turn off on android
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Mar 12, 2017 21:32
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fishmech posted:why would it It uses a security feature of Android, if you block screenshots that means other apps can't access the screen buffer either to potentially steal decrypted messages.
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Mar 12, 2017 21:34
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pr0zac posted:its an option in settings you can turn off on android Oh neat I didn't know that. I barely use it tbh it's a bit of a pita for group apps
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Mar 12, 2017 21:34
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fishmech posted:why would it spankmeister posted:It uses a security feature of Android, if you block screenshots that means other apps can't access the screen buffer either to potentially steal decrypted messages. i guarantee you this person wasn't thinking about that
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Mar 12, 2017 21:51
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First the CIA leak and now this. Signal's having a tough week when it comes to fake security issues
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Mar 12, 2017 22:02
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spankmeister posted:It uses a security feature of Android, if you block screenshots that means other apps can't access the screen buffer either to potentially steal decrypted messages. why would android even allow this at all? alternately: anroid lol
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Mar 12, 2017 22:14
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fishmech posted:why would it :mcbain:
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Mar 12, 2017 22:15
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pseudorandom name posted:why would android even allow this at all? Yeah, iOS just goes "gently caress off" if you try.
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Mar 12, 2017 22:21
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pseudorandom name posted:why would android even allow this at all? there's a "allow app to draw over other apps" or something that apps like goog translate use to translate the content of apps. Which can be a useful feature.
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Mar 12, 2017 22:23
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nrook posted:First the CIA leak and now this. Signal's having a tough week when it comes to fake security issues
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Mar 12, 2017 22:31
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pseudorandom name posted:why would android even allow this at all? Because that's not what FLAG_SECURE is protecting against (because apps reading other apps windows is stupid Windows level poo poo)
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Mar 12, 2017 22:39
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apseudonym posted:Because that's not what FLAG_SECURE is protecting against (because apps reading other apps windows is stupid Windows level poo poo) didn't it used to be possible to overlay a transparent window over the active one and read back the composited result of your "own" window? I remember us stumbling across something like that when building the messenger chat heads, but I could be misremembering. maybe it was the opposite direction (main window could read chat heads).
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Mar 12, 2017 22:45
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Subjunctive posted:didn't it used to be possible to overlay a transparent window over the active one and read back the composited result of your "own" window? I remember us stumbling across something like that when building the messenger chat heads, but I could be misremembering. maybe it was the opposite direction (main window could read chat heads). Not content AFAIK, but you can abuse SYSTEM_ALERT_WINDOW to snag taps or mask UI but pass through taps.
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Mar 12, 2017 22:56
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spankmeister posted:there's a "allow app to draw over other apps" or something that apps like goog translate use to translate the content of apps. Which can be a useful feature. you have to explicitly allow this when it tries though and i seem to remember granting this permission was harder than other permissions, like it gave multiple warnings and you had to be redirected to the settings to do it
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Mar 12, 2017 22:59
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ate all the Oreos posted:you have to explicitly allow this when it tries though and i seem to remember granting this permission was harder than other permissions, like it gave multiple warnings and you had to be redirected to the settings to do it Its a special access permission so you have to manually give it to the app via Settings.
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Mar 12, 2017 23:22
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spankmeister posted:It uses a security feature of Android, if you block screenshots that means other apps can't access the screen buffer either to potentially steal decrypted messages. if you have the block screenshots thing enabled, then there's no screenshot to happen and cause a reason for the "you had your message screenshotted" to happen (since any screenshots at that point are presumably using some form of elevated privileges and also probably evading simple detection. if the app doesn't have block screenshots enabled, and the app in question doesn't, why should it notify the other party/parties on an attempt to do an allowable action?
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Mar 12, 2017 23:26
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fishmech posted:if the app doesn't have block screenshots enabled, and the app in question doesn't, why should it notify the other party/parties on an attempt to do an allowable action? That's a different question. The one I was talking about is why would you block screenshot ability at all. The other is why notify the other party when a screenshot does happen. Answer to the second question is because signal has a feature that lets messages expire after a set time. Taking a screenshot would defeat that. I'm not defending the argument btw, just answering your question.
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Mar 12, 2017 23:34
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spankmeister posted:It uses a security feature of Android, if you block screenshots that means other apps can't access the screen buffer either to potentially steal decrypted messages. hmm... turns out android doesn't have any security because people habitually have to root their devices to get updates 
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Mar 12, 2017 23:46
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akadajet posted:hmm... turns out android doesn't have any security because people habitually have to root their devices to get updates 
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Mar 12, 2017 23:46
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never!
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Mar 12, 2017 23:51
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signal blocks screenshots for me. without knowing much about android dev it looks like they're doing the correct thing: https://github.com/WhisperSystems/S...tivity.java#L37
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Mar 13, 2017 00:01
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oh, the controversy is about not being notified if screenshots are taken. yeah that should happen
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Mar 13, 2017 00:06
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OSI bean dip posted:Weird. I wonder when Signal allowed for screenshots because it used to block attempts. signal blocks by default but you can allow it via the preferences
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Mar 13, 2017 00:08
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LinYutang posted:oh, the controversy is about not being notified if screenshots are taken. yeah that should happen There is no controversy, not a real one anyways. Anyone who acts shocked/concerned here is outing themselves as not knowing what they're talking about. "Disappearing" messages doesn't mean that the content of those messages isn't available after the fact, any service that tells you otherwise is lying to you (hello early snapchat before their lawyers took down those promises). Maybe its a screenshot, maybe its the analog hole of taking a photo of the phone, maybe its just writing it the gently caress down on paper.
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Mar 13, 2017 00:12
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"disappearing" messages mean your parents can't read them off your phone afterwards
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Mar 13, 2017 00:16
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it's a nice thing to have that will catch 99% of cases of "this guy is trying to save my dick pic" which is the point is it actually secure and should you use it to hide from the black helicopters if you're trying to leak secret government alien autopsy results? obviously not
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Mar 13, 2017 00:16
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http://wololo.net/2017/03/11/nintendo-switch-already-hacked-known-vulnerability/ Oh Nintendo. 
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Mar 13, 2017 00:17
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Cocoa Crispies posted:"disappearing" messages mean your parents can't read them off your phone afterwards But it doesn't mean the other person(s) can't keep and redistribute them, so your nudes will probably still get leaked. ate all the Oreos posted:it's a nice thing to have that will catch 99% of cases of "this guy is trying to save my dick pic" which is the point Or really anyone that dislikes you in particular with a moderate level of creativity. There's more attackers than just "script kiddie throwing poo poo at the wall without a target" and "A skilled nation state adversary is going to gently caress you in particular" e: I think the number of nudes that have leaked out of snapchat kinda discount this 99% idea. apseudonym fucked around with this message at 01:05 on Mar 13, 2017 |
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Mar 13, 2017 00:28
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ate all the Oreos posted:it's a nice thing to have that will catch 99% of cases of "this guy is trying to save my dick pic" which is the point yeah, this
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Mar 13, 2017 00:58
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spankmeister posted:That's a different question. The one I was talking about is why would you block screenshot ability at all. The other is why notify the other party when a screenshot does happen.
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Mar 13, 2017 01:39
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ratbert90 posted:http://wololo.net/2017/03/11/nintendo-switch-already-hacked-known-vulnerability/ It was inevitable
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Mar 13, 2017 02:22
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OSI bean dip posted:It was inevitable 9 days, pretty drat good.
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Mar 13, 2017 03:14
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well it's not impressive that it was hacked so much as it's embarrassing that apparently they're using an ancient version of webkit and that's how it was hacked
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reminder: apps cant know if you're screen-recording your iPhone with QuickTime (the OS will however block you from recording DRM'd video)
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