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ChrisBTY posted:Alright I finally have to ask: Iris is considered the worst one of all
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Mar 11, 2017 21:17
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It's probably more playable than the original version of Rorona but yeah. Try Ayesha when it's on sale or something.
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Mar 11, 2017 21:18
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If you have a decent internet connection, you can do PS now PC free trial with Ayesha and Escha+Lodgy on it. I did not like Ayesha that much, I really liked Escha+Lodgy.
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Mar 11, 2017 21:23
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ChrisBTY posted:Alright I finally have to ask:
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Mar 11, 2017 21:33
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yeah atelier iris is a very bad game to base your series expectations off of. i'm pretty sure it's even considered the worst game in its own trilogy
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Mar 11, 2017 22:48
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I do appreciate that the existence of Atelier Iris eventually lead to the existence of the two Mana Khemia games, which I actually quite enjoy.
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Mar 12, 2017 06:42
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Iris 3 is the worst of the trilogy. I would say Iris 1 is actually the best, despite the weirdness of Klein's portrait art.
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Mar 12, 2017 07:00
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Barrel!
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Mar 12, 2017 07:19
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Iris remains the only Aterlier game I've played, although I don't think I ever finished it. It did have a track featuring beatboxing which is always a positive in a game imho. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2r7jO2Guj5Y
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Mar 12, 2017 09:04
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Tired Moritz posted:Iris 3 is the worst of the trilogy. And you have to give Iris 3 credit for inventing the time card based battle system which is used to great effect in MK1 and 2.
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Mar 12, 2017 14:03
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Sea Sponge Run posted:Barrel!
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Mar 12, 2017 14:13
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Sea Sponge Run posted:Barrel! 
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Mar 12, 2017 14:48
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Iris 3 have terrible characters. Iris 1 is good and I love the little segments when they chit chat after every synthesis. The battle system is bare but playable.
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Mar 12, 2017 14:57
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Sea Sponge Run posted:Barrel! this barrel doesn't have anything in it, but that barrel does... it's really complex.
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Mar 12, 2017 15:16
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Tired Moritz posted:Iris 3 have terrible characters. Iris 1 is good and I love the little segments when they chit chat after every synthesis. If you liked the synthesis parts of Iris 1 you should play a normal Atelier game because that's the entirety of those
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Mar 12, 2017 15:23
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corn in the bible posted:If you liked the synthesis parts of Iris 1 you should play a normal Atelier game because that's the entirety of those They specifically said they like the little skits you get after making most items for the first time which normal Atelier games don't really do. Iris 2 is the weakest Iris game. 1 is a weird little mess of half executed ideas but it has heart. 3 is a pretty good game of about half its length that got way too padded. 2 is just laziness incarnate. It's like they were trying to answer the question, "How little effort is it possible to expend while still ending up with a complete, full length RPG?" wateyad fucked around with this message at 15:41 on Mar 12, 2017 |
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Mar 12, 2017 15:35
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He could play rorona 
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Mar 12, 2017 15:45
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I don't know, I thought the two worlds thing was kinda interesting. Though, I'll admit I can't even remember the battle system..
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Mar 12, 2017 15:45
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Iris 3 was the first Atelier game I played. Never tried 1 or 2 so I can't compare it but I really enjoyed it back when I was 13ish, the whole class/costume thing was real neato.
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Mar 12, 2017 16:17
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I disliked Iris 2 but Rorona actually made me give up on the franchise until I had to do E&L for work. It's remarkable just how little I enjoyed that game. It's not the worst JRPG ever or anything but man was it souring.
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Mar 12, 2017 16:19
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I got into the series through Mana Khemia, which isn't that bad a start point, really (never played 2 though, since it didn't come out in Europe). I actually kinda liked the original Rorona too, even though it's obviously flawed as all hell.
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Mar 12, 2017 17:56
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If you like conversations about synthesized stuff, you should consider checking out the Ar tonelico games. The first one even feels more of a sequel to Atelier Iris 2 than 3 does.
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Mar 12, 2017 19:18
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What are some good RPGs that do interesting things with setting, story, and characters, outside the bog standard fantasy/sci-fi/magic anime people? The games I can think of off the top of my head are: Mother/EB games Space Funeral Lisa Undertale, sort of Metal Max Returns And heck, even Sweet Home scratches that itch. Edit: I guess Shadow Hearts and Persona games sort of fit the bill too. I'm kind of just looking for something weird and different. If it makes a difference, I've also been curious about games on the PC88/98 since I never got around to trying anything from those. MockingQuantum fucked around with this message at 20:59 on Mar 12, 2017 |
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Mar 12, 2017 20:56
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shadow hearts
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Mar 12, 2017 20:58
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The World Ends with you. Final Fantasy X's setting is a weird Eastern Islander meets psychedelic tech mix that's really weird and unique. IX's setting is a lot more Shakespearean/fairy tale-y than most bu t that's probably skirting too close to traditional Fantasy.
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Mar 12, 2017 21:00
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MockingQuantum posted:What are some good RPGs that do interesting things with setting, story, and characters, outside the bog standard fantasy/sci-fi/magic anime people? Planescape: Torment is fantasy, but definitely not Tolkien-esque fantasy. Edit: More action RPGs, but the Soulblazer series. GrandpaPants fucked around with this message at 21:16 on Mar 12, 2017 |
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Mar 12, 2017 21:02
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The atelier customization in Sophie would have been way better if I didn't have to dedicate nearly all of it to auxiliary storage.
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Mar 12, 2017 21:21
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MockingQuantum posted:What are some good RPGs that do interesting things with setting, story, and characters, outside the bog standard fantasy/sci-fi/magic anime people? Both Nier games.
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Mar 12, 2017 23:08
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GrandpaPants posted:Planescape: Torment is fantasy, but definitely not Tolkien-esque fantasy. I wish there were more games like the Soulblazer series. Soulblazer itself is still one I go back to frequently. Not sure what it is about the game but it feels unique in a weird, endearing way. ZenMasterBullshit posted:The World Ends with you. Oh I totally forgot about TWEWY, I have yet to play that. It'll probably be the next one I tackle (possibly after Torment: Tides etc. if it grabs me)
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Mar 12, 2017 23:09
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troika with its arcanum and vamp the masquerade has 2 settings i don't think you have very many other games in
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Mar 12, 2017 23:39
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MockingQuantum posted:What are some good RPGs that do interesting things with setting, story, and characters, outside the bog standard fantasy/sci-fi/magic anime people? The first 20% of Wild ARMs games, I suppose. The western aesthetic always feels very fresh and novel until it collapses into anime tropes.
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Mar 13, 2017 02:25
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wild arms 3 sticks pretty close to the western setting. there's some robots and stuff but none of the party members are power rangers or anything.
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Endorph posted:wild arms 3 sticks pretty close to the western setting. there's some robots and stuff but none of the party members are power rangers or anything. Yeah I'd agree with that, I've seen my wife play through WA3 a handful of times. Seems fun, but she's a completion of and holy crap is that a long endgame if you're into doing everything. This does make me wish there were more translated Metal Max games. Maybe I'll just replay Metal Max Returns til something elee strikes my fancy. On an unrelated question, are there any good SRPGs on Steam besides console ports?
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Mar 13, 2017 03:30
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The Shadowrun series.
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Mar 13, 2017 03:32
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Tae posted:The Shadowrun series. I suppose so, yeah... I was thinking maybe something more along the lines of Shining Force or Fire Emblem.
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Mar 13, 2017 03:42
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The Xcom games are good.
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Mar 13, 2017 03:51
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MockingQuantum posted:I suppose so, yeah... I was thinking maybe something more along the lines of Shining Force or Fire Emblem. Banner Saga Invisible Inc
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Rascyc posted:Battle for Wesnoth WrightOfWay posted:The Xcom games are good. Dang, I've played all of these. Maybe I've drained the genre dry... How's Voidspire Tactics? Also I saw Bastard Bonds recommended a few pages back, but I have no idea if that was a joke or not. The game looks very... masculine.
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Mar 13, 2017 04:29
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MockingQuantum posted:Dang, I've played all of these. Maybe I've drained the genre dry... 
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Yeah, Bastard Bonds is a good game with some really impressive spritework.
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