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Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

anime was right posted:

that and tim canova knew literally nothing about the district he was running in. like she actually knows the ins and outs of her constituency even if shes awful.

He was never going to win but he was completely dead during a debate when the moderator asked him some bullshit gotcha question about who the superintendent of a local school district is and DWS knew it.

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Neurolimal
Nov 3, 2012
Obama's safe until we get a good black president, until then nobody wants to say 'the first black president was pretty weak'

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

zegermans posted:

Ironically Canova lost for the same reason Clinton did, turns out "OPPONENT BAD" isn't a platform.

I cannot disagree with this

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler
Florida Bad

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

The only way Obama would get a horrible political legacy would be the collapse of the Democrats like the Whigs, which even now does not seem likely despite how weak the party is nationally at the local and state levels. The GFC was really bad, and now Trump is likely going to have every American relive the 20th century in a single term.

Concerned Citizen
Jul 22, 2007
Ramrod XTreme

logikv9 posted:

Florida Bad

i think you could win statewide office in florida running on this platform

Mister Fister
May 17, 2008

D&D: HASBARA SQUAD
KILL-GORE


I love the smell of dead Palestinians in the morning.
You know, one time we had Gaza bombed for 26 days
(and counting!)

Oh Snapple! posted:

gonna bring this over here because lol



Some particular bits I liked:

Lets energize the grassroots by being a complete buzzkill.

The fact that Perez was clueless about why he should run until talking with Obama is staggering to me.

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

Nonsense posted:

Trump is likely going to have every American relive the 20th century in a single term.

including the nukes?

Concerned Citizen
Jul 22, 2007
Ramrod XTreme

Oh Snapple! posted:

gonna bring this over here because lol



Some particular bits I liked:

thanks obama

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

Oh Snapple! posted:

gonna bring this over here because lol



Some particular bits I liked:

lol Obama is a complete loving disaster

he nods and smiles as Trump erodes everything he did in 8 years in a matter of months

Oh Snapple!
Dec 27, 2005

paranoid randroid posted:

i guess he "helped cause" the second fuckup in the sense that his election drove 30% of the country absolutely loving bonkers to the point where theyd elevate a transparent snake oil salesman so long as he said nasty things about the Kenyan usurper

he caused it by being a corporatist piece of poo poo who didn't give a single solitary gently caress about the people being continuously left behind to wallow in their own desperation as he doubled down on the system responsible for it

Neurolimal
Nov 3, 2012
The problem with florida politicians is that to run at all you must first get the consent of Florida Man

Iron Twinkie
Apr 20, 2001

BOOP

anime was right posted:

florida is doomed to be a neoliberal hellhole for all eternity

That's a little pessimistic. I mean, I doubt they'll be too many neoliberals left in the state once climate change makes vast swaths of it uninhabitable.

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler
I'm rolling coal right now to accelerate Florida's descent into the ocean

paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007

Oh Snapple! posted:

he caused it by being a corporatist piece of poo poo who didn't give a single solitary gently caress about the people being continuously left behind to wallow in their own desperation as he doubled down on the system responsible for it

no i dont think this is an entirely accurate assessment

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless
Obama definitely played a part in leading up to progressives putting pressure on the party, mainly because he ran on that rhetoric and then did a bait and switch with Geithner

paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007
the arc of trumps political career has been him rising on the back of the completely insane Republican voter base and trying to retcon it to be some kind of economic thunderbolt out of the blue is really dumb

paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007

Dead Cosmonaut posted:

Obama definitely played a part in leading up to progressives putting pressure on the party, mainly because he ran on that rhetoric and then did a bait and switch with Geithner

this however is correct

Neurolimal
Nov 3, 2012
I mean, he didn't have any PERSONAL scandals, but he did have 'boring' war and secrecy scandals involving Manning, Snowden, and the NSA.

IMO ultimately he's gonna be looked at as a boring lame duck, nothing better or worse. He didn't rock the boat, passed reform that amounted to "everyone must get on insurance, but they need to be more creative to deny you coverage" that was repealed in 8 years, and recovered the economy for the most influential of his constitutents

Boner Zone
Jan 14, 2006

by Nyc_Tattoo

Nonsense posted:

The only way Obama would get a horrible political legacy would be the collapse of the Democrats like the Whigs, which even now does not seem likely despite how weak the party is nationally at the local and state levels. The GFC was really bad, and now Trump is likely going to have every American relive the 20th century in a single term.

The Dems are well on their way because party leaders with terrible ideas are still not relinquishing any control, like Perez isn't just ideologically aligned with Obama, Obama picked him to basically be a proxy for him to control the DNC going forward? Because his stewardship will do wonders for the party.

The hubris of someone who was succeeded by reality TV star Donald J Trump is astounding to behold really.

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


Neurolimal posted:

Let's not overuse brokebrain. This thread isn't brokebrain, THIS is brokebrain:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Enough_Sanders_Spam

quote:

A national minimum wage of $15 is absolute madness. There are many reasons, but I'm going to relay a personal anecdote.

I work for a home healthcare provider. We have a TON of employees that are variable hour workers and usually have the jobs they have to help with family or to pick up some extra money. We have a constant cash flow problem because of how terrible centennial care and the VA are at paying. The VA in particular takes MONTHS. If we had that high a minimum wage we would 100 percent go out of business causing hundreds of people to lose this work and hundreds of elderly and sick people to lose their care.

If Hillary had won a common sense wage increase would have been attainable. Now that you morons abandoned her and helped Trump win we could get a healthcare bill passed that would also cripple us instead.

quote:

How about the goldman sachs transcripts?

There was loving nothing in there!

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


Neurolimal posted:

Let's not overuse brokebrain. This thread isn't brokebrain, THIS is brokebrain:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Enough_Sanders_Spam

quote:

What get me the most and provides support that Bernie supporters are incapable of complex thought is encapsulated in the common.argument that the clinton foundation received donation money from Saudi Arabia therefore the Clinton's are rich and are in bed with terrorist supporters and to prove otherwise they should return the money.

The main fallacy on their thought process is that a charitable organization should take money from people that are pure, so we can assume that ex cons, white supremasist, Catholics, etc should have their money refunded if they have donated to ACLU or planned parenthood because if these organizations don't then they are in collision.

This way of thinking is due to being lazy at best or mentally incompetent at worst. They allow one bad narrative.color.their perception of the whole multi faceted individual or organization.

paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007
yeah thats pretty dang broke brained

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

The approximate moment when the Bad Dems will release control

Oh Snapple!
Dec 27, 2005

zegermans posted:

The approximate moment when the Bad Dems will release control



"Look we're trying it your way and it's already going wrong."

Neurolimal
Nov 3, 2012

zegermans posted:

The approximate moment when the Bad Dems will release control



spoilers I haven't seen the new star wars yet dude

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

Nonsense posted:

The only way Obama would get a horrible political legacy would be the collapse of the Democrats like the Whigs, which even now does not seem likely despite how weak the party is nationally at the local and state levels. The GFC was really bad, and now Trump is likely going to have every American relive the 20th century in a single term.

What legacy will there be left? His policies sure don’t seem like they’re going to last much longer. The only thing that will be left is this supposed nostalgia for decency and a political center again.

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


Neurolimal posted:

Let's not overuse brokebrain. This thread isn't brokebrain, THIS is brokebrain:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Enough_Sanders_Spam

quote:

I had to put up with listening to a Sandroid at the laundromat this weekend spout off about how it will be easy to weather the storm of 4 years of Trump because it will bring the revolution. I really don't think we will recover as a people from Bernie Sanders.

quote:

the greatest farce is bernie claiming 'leftwing economics' as his own. the great majority of left of center economists are for hillary.

not to be ideologically tribal because one should always strive to give different perspectives a fair hearing, but this idea that the bernie crowd represents 'leftwing economics' is rather dismissive of the work of many people.

quote:

In all seriousness, how loving dare you, you little poo poo? YOU blasted the party apart. Not Hillary. Bernie, your halitosis ridden Pied Piper of socialism, spread right wing smears and refused to drop out when it became mathematically impossible for him to win. He sowed discontent out of stubbornness, pettiness, and an inability to accept that he had lost. He - and you - was the cancer that infected the party. Not Hillary. gently caress off.

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler
Don't go down the primary route again

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

NM DONT' PROB ME LOG PLZ

paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007
im a Sandroid

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler

sandisk really making improvements in their technology

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

e: no sixer pls :ohdear:

freckle
Apr 6, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
reddit is terrible.

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler

freckle posted:

reddit is terrible.

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo
it is known

stranger danger
May 24, 2006

quote:

Observers have been mystified by the Obama White House’s decision to spark a Democratic Party civil war over the DNC chair race so soon after its clobbering in November. After all, most agree that Ellison and Perez are similarly progressive — and that there didn’t seem to be any real substantial gaps in their strategies for fixing the Democratic Party.

Obama aides say the intervention was related to the former president’s reluctance to openly criticize Trump. By helping ensure a close ally like Perez is running the DNC, they said, Obama felt like he was liberating himself from having to personally respond to Trump over the next several years.

can someone explain this logic? it seems, uh, a little specious and pretty drat self-centered.

Oh Snapple!
Dec 27, 2005

stranger danger posted:

can someone explain this logic? it seems, uh, a little specious and pretty drat self-centered.

Obama is a coward largely concerned with personal optics over all else and will never, ever put himself out there on anything that might make him look less than presidential. And personally criticizing a sitting president would be "a bad look" for him. So he wants a proxy.

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler
He's going full post-presidency gwb

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paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007
painting pictures of all the afghanis he droned

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