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The Glumslinger posted:Someone tell me what Dynamic Scoring means? It means pretending that cutting taxes will increase tax revenue.
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Although average premiums would increase prior to 2020 and decrease starting in 2020, CBO and JCT estimate that changes in premiums relative to those under current law would differ significantly for people of different ages because of a change in age-rating rules. Under the legislation, insurers would be allowed to generally charge five times more for older enrollees than younger ones rather than three times more as under current law, substantially reducing premiums for young adults and substantially raising premiums for older people. lmao
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Joementum posted:Anyone know if the CBO is allowed to use "dynamic scoring"? I remember that decision ping-ponging a few times in the last Obama term and I can't remember where it ended up. Obviously, the Trump administration is too dumb to actually have had it changed in their favor if it wasn't already. dynamic scoring would help with the deficit implications but not the insurance coverage stuff i believe so it doesn't help trump and ryan with the worst looking part of their plan
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Ten year estimate: 28 million people lose insurance
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god drat it!!! nobody predicted a "yo"!!!
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Holy poo poo, 24 million. That's mind-bogglingly bad.
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https://twitter.com/BenjySarlin/status/841380945634709505 lmao
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Tainen posted:Reduces insured by 24 million lol by 2026 lol
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pathetic little tramp posted:Holy poo poo, 24 million. That's mind-bogglingly bad. [extremely GOP legislator voice] actually its good
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The Glumslinger posted:Ten year estimate: 28 million people lose insurance In 2026, an estimated 52 million people would be uninsured, compared with 28 million who would lack insurance that year under current law.
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triple sulk posted:Although average premiums would increase prior to 2020 and decrease starting in 2020, CBO and JCT estimate that changes in premiums relative to those under current law would differ significantly for people of different ages because of a change in age-rating rules. Under the legislation, insurers would be allowed to generally charge five times more for older enrollees than younger ones rather than three times more as under current law, substantially reducing premiums for young adults and substantially raising premiums for older people. get hosed boomers
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trump voters: well i won't lose my insurance. only "those" people will lose insurance *loses insurance*
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Mar 13, 2017 21:12
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orange sky posted:27yo European People don't go to jail for being racist shitheads in the US. They're usually just shunned and shamed, or embraced and love-bombed by other jerks. It's very hard to tell exactly what will end up happening, really.
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The Glumslinger posted:Someone tell me what Dynamic Scoring means? static/dynamic refer to the assumptions of how the economy reacts to the change. in static scoring, you dont assume any reaction, in dynamic scoring you kind of guess at it lets say you have a new bill to cut taxes by $1 billion. static scoring says that it has a $1 billion impact on the budget. republicans say "aha, but there are macroeconomic impacts!!!! more people will have more money which will change their spending habits, bringing in more revenue!!!" to include that requires dynamic scoring because you need to guess at a model, rather than just guessing at the impact ed:  joe
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24 million, lol
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lol Paul Ryan
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failing CBO being very disrespectful to my great healthcare plan
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Vladimir Putin posted:I personally chalk it up to him being an rear end in a top hat. True, it's very hard to distiguish between 80's fad salesmen book techniques and just being a loving rear end in a top hat.
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Solarin posted:get hosed boomers That I can agree with.
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all the newly uninsured will just double the population of canada by moving there
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orange sky posted:27yo European yeah as soon as you leave the city limits of any given metro it gets real bad real fast
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"The largest savings would come from reductions in outlays for Medicaid and from the elimination of the Affordable Care Act’s (ACA’s) subsidies for nongroup health insurance." lol @ $337 billion in costs shifting from government to taxpayer
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the CBO and the 24 million people set to lose coverage are fake news
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that's 24 million of other's peoples babies tho so it works out
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Mar 13, 2017 21:16
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So it's just a straight up assault on the poor. Any upsides to this at all?
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 "But think of all the choice you'll have when selecting coverage after being priced out of your current plan!"
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Serf posted:trump voters: well i won't lose my insurance. only "those" people will lose insurance
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fox news has someone almost in tears about the estimate
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pathetic little tramp posted:Holy poo poo, 24 million. That's mind-bogglingly bad. Isn't that almost the exact same number of people who got insurance under ACA?
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Mar 13, 2017 21:17
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 I'm the GOP base being stripped of healthcare. I didn't realize that the Republicans are the single best ally to people who hate the dumb asses that vote for the GOP every year
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Mar 13, 2017 21:17
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8.7% of Americans still being uninsured under Obamacare in 2026 ain't a great endorsement of current law.
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triple sulk posted:Although average premiums would increase prior to 2020 and decrease starting in 2020, CBO and JCT estimate that changes in premiums relative to those under current law would differ significantly for people of different ages because of a change in age-rating rules. Under the legislation, insurers would be allowed to generally charge five times more for older enrollees than younger ones rather than three times more as under current law, substantially reducing premiums for young adults and substantially raising premiums for older people. olds dying so what
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this is another obama shadow govmint attack
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Grondoth posted:Maybe their spores weren't too good so growing tall gave them a reproductive advantage? maybe, although it'd have to be quite an advantage to offset the cost of having to transport all the nutrients from the soil to grow 24-foot fruiting body, and modern spores are light enough to get everywhere from a few inches above the ground
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can't wait to see trump's tweets when he finds out about this from fox & friends tomorrow morning
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