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Elephanthead
Sep 11, 2008


Toilet Rascal

MadJackal posted:

So it's just a straight up assault on the poor. Any upsides to this at all?

Don't you mean downsides?

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triple sulk
Sep 17, 2014



https://twitter.com/chrislhayes/status/841384413334294528

old beast lunatic
Nov 3, 2004

by Hand Knit
all this time I thought conservatives wanted america to be some misguided libertarian prosperity gospel shithole. Turns out they're just naked accelerationists.

Von Sloneker
Jul 6, 2009

as if all this was something more
than another footnote on a postcard from nowhere,
another chapter in the handbook for exercises in futility

lamentable dustman posted:

fox news has someone almost in tears about the estimate

that's Betsy McCaughey, she's sort of always like that

bump_fn
Apr 12, 2004

two of them
lol just lol

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

Inspector Hound posted:

What does this mean/what does this mean we don't get?

its a lovely score and they dont want to upset the orange baby

triple sulk
Sep 17, 2014



trumpster just signed the EO, whatever it is

today is the loving greatest w/this report. lmao forever gently caress you paul ryan

Duscat
Jan 4, 2009
Fun Shoe

EugeneJ posted:

52 million uninsured by 2026

:laffo:

ahaha hokly gently caress how did they even manage that, that's literally worse than just repealing obamacare completely

sandoz
Jan 29, 2009


you... you... DOUBLEOBAMACARE

pathetic little tramp
Dec 12, 2005

by Hillary Clinton's assassins
Fallen Rib
https://twitter.com/igorvolsky/status/841383833895358465

Premiums will increase 20 percent on average, old people will see premiums increase 500%, 52 million people will be without insurance (and we're not even calculating how 52 million people not being on health insurance leads to even higher premiums that makes 20 and 500 look minuscule).

Glimm
Jul 27, 2005

Time is only gonna pass you by

So what about this looks negative from the GOP perspective? Far as I can tell this is all good for them.

bump_fn
Apr 12, 2004

two of them

ahahahahahahhahahaahha

the bitcoin of weed
Nov 1, 2014

Feminasty Slut posted:

all this time I thought conservatives wanted america to be some misguided libertarian prosperity gospel shithole. Turns out they're just naked accelerationists.

actually they're just insanely stupid

Elephanthead
Sep 11, 2008


Toilet Rascal
EO outlaws the cbo which autocorrects to cob which is what I am.

triple sulk
Sep 17, 2014




i said numerous times that people's premiums were gonna go up like 25% because companies can collude

what a loving surprise that it'd be the actual case

limp dick calvin
Sep 1, 2006

Strepitoso. Vedete? Una meraviglia.
What is dynamic scoring

kaleedity
Feb 27, 2016



the old ACA was poo poo but this is a pile of poo poo covered in vomit

bump_fn
Apr 12, 2004

two of them

Consummate Professional posted:

What is dynamic scoring

its like the rubberbanding in mario kart

Lum_
Jun 5, 2006

Venom Snake posted:

SK saber rattles just like NK does.

To be fair, SK's saber rattling is usually more in line with what normal countries consider saber rattling, whereas NK's saber rattling is the diplomatic version of jumping up and down naked while cutting themselves with knives yelling incoherently about the voices and Big Steve.

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

Glimm posted:

So what about this looks negative from the GOP perspective? Far as I can tell this is all good for them.

No, this is very bad for them :chloe:

Don't they have like less than two weeks to put this onto the floor to pass it so Trump doesn't go King Kong on them?

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

This CBO score reminds me of Paul Ryan's original Ayn Rand fever dream budget idea that managed to raise taxes on 95% of Americans and have a worse deficit because of all the tax cuts to the rich.

Elephanthead
Sep 11, 2008


Toilet Rascal

Consummate Professional posted:

What is dynamic scoring

You pretend tax cuts increase tax revenue.

Fireside Nut
Feb 10, 2010

turp



Who knew healthcare could be so complicated? :smugdon:

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf

Glimm posted:

So what about this looks negative from the GOP perspective? Far as I can tell this is all good for them.

Hurts old people

Louisgod
Sep 25, 2003

Always Watching
Bread Liar
based on the score, my message to the GOP and Republicans in general is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-u7YrcSVhg

because they will completely gently caress themselves over if they tried to squeak this wet turd through congress.

new kind of cat
May 8, 2007

Yinlock posted:

you know they'll somehow make it out of this unscathed

boomers are invincible

i lust for boomer death

magiccarpet
Jan 3, 2005




winning bigly

kaleedity
Feb 27, 2016



bump_fn posted:

its like the rubberbanding in mario kart

drawing a laffer curve with a blue shell rn

Serf
May 5, 2011


boomers will march headlong into a spinning fan blade of death before they vote for a democrat so

lol

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

Actually the CBO didn't properly score all the innovation that the states will do with their limited Medicaid budgets so we can just throw this estimate away.

DryGoods
Apr 26, 2014

Dogs, on the other hand, can connect with that pathos.
Now the 24 million and 5x increase in premiums for seniors can percolate all week. It's a bold move when you're in a no-win scenario to try to just straight jump out the nearest window, but it's worth a shot, I guess.

Solarin
Nov 15, 2007

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_scoring

basically they score policy using a model that guesses at how the market will respond to policy instead of a static model where they assume business as usual for macroec factors

Vladimir Putin
Mar 17, 2007

by R. Guyovich
Just fix the exchanges you dumbasses and leave the rest of it alone.

This thing is dead. With the AMA, AARP against it the CBO is the final blow.

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

The Glumslinger posted:

Hurts old people

gee its almost as if HRPs weren't intended for that but there it is

Glimm
Jul 27, 2005

Time is only gonna pass you by

The Glumslinger posted:

Hurts old people

Yeah true but they're gonna vote GOP until they die no matter what. Though this presumably accelerates their deaths which is bad for the GOP.

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

Please keep running on this GOP

bump_fn
Apr 12, 2004

two of them
has ¡jeb! weighed in on it yet

Gringostar
Nov 12, 2016
Morbid Hound

new kind of cat posted:

i lust for boomer death

:yeah:

magiccarpet
Jan 3, 2005




i think paul should have checked his work before he submitted this one

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Louisgod
Sep 25, 2003

Always Watching
Bread Liar
The CBO estimates that by 2018 24 million people will only be able to afford to Google what the sore on their leg could be

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