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Son of Rodney posted:I'm not american so I never really understood why the republicans hate healthcare so much, can somebody maybe explain why it's such a bad thing to them that people have access to affordable healtcare? I mean, healthy people produce a lot more "value" to an economy than dying people do, it's a pretty straightforward concept. What's their beef? They are monsters that subsist on avarice.
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Son of Rodney posted:I'm not american so I never really understood why the republicans hate healthcare so much, can somebody maybe explain why it's such a bad thing to them that people have access to affordable healtcare? I mean, healthy people produce a lot more "value" to an economy than dying people do, it's a pretty straightforward concept. What's their beef? It's not that they hate healthcare, technically. It's more than it gets in the way of their true love: taking every last nickel and rerouting it to the 1%. OK, they hate healthcare.
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socialism bad, rawr
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KrolleBolle posted:
You are my hero, good sir. “Every loving day. Every single loving day when i come home this little human being just sits there and gives me this stupid look on his face. What should i do about him? Ideas?”
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Son of Rodney posted:I'm not american so I never really understood why the republicans hate healthcare so much, can somebody maybe explain why it's such a bad thing to them that people have access to affordable healtcare? I mean, healthy people produce a lot more "value" to an economy than dying people do, it's a pretty straightforward concept. What's their beef? Because rich people are just as loving stupid as everyone else. They look at their tax bill, their monocle pops off comically, and they go on a rampage to make sure the number gets smaller no matter what! Without ever considering anything but the numbers themselves.
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Son of Rodney posted:I'm not american so I never really understood why the republicans hate healthcare so much, can somebody maybe explain why it's such a bad thing to them that people have access to affordable healtcare? I mean, healthy people produce a lot more "value" to an economy than dying people do, it's a pretty straightforward concept. What's their beef? They get paid by insurance companies. Apollodorus posted:Access to Healthcare Sorry, you're behind the curve. The new weasel word is "choice."
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The flippant and not entirely helpful response re: republicans and healthcare is "the rich republicans don't give a gently caress about poors and hate any kind of welfare/support network, preferring to spend money on weapons/wars, and the poor republicans hate the same things the rich ones do, as well as themselves" but the serious answer is turn off the TV posted:They get paid by insurance companies. I guess
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Mar 13, 2017 22:29
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Paul Ryan in 2020 Last year 20 million Americans chose to die instead of getting treatment for their cancer. Now the democrats are going to tell you this is because of us, but to all those dead people it was about liberty, freedom, and the right to choose to leave this all behind. It doesn't get more American than that.
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Code Jockey posted:The flippant and not entirely helpful response re: republicans and healthcare is "the rich republicans don't give a gently caress about poors and hate any kind of welfare/support network, preferring to spend money on weapons/wars, and the poor republicans hate the same things the rich ones do, as well as themselves" That just sounds so comically.. evil.
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Son of Rodney posted:I'm not american so I never really understood why the republicans hate healthcare so much, can somebody maybe explain why it's such a bad thing to them that people have access to affordable healtcare? I mean, healthy people produce a lot more "value" to an economy than dying people do, it's a pretty straightforward concept. What's their beef? Adding to everything that was said before; Republicans don't hate healthcare itself. They just don't believe that government should be involved in any way, either through subsidies like Medicare, or mandated (mandatory health care or you have to pay a tax penalty). Capital R Republicans believe in free market health care which leads to things like uninsurable (high risk) people who have preexisting conditions. It also might mean that Republican care could be less expensive (market forces dive down costs due to competition) or more expensive (no pool of low risk individuals subsidizing high risk individuals) One big election LOL is that we have 2 kinds of Republicans in charge, Ryan Republicans who would prefer no government involvement, and Donald whose promises require a lot of government involvement, and they are diametrically opposed.
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Oscar Wild posted:Republican care could be less expensive (market forces dive down costs due to competition) lol
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Son of Rodney posted:That just sounds so comically.. evil. Heh heh...yeah. Also consider that the areas of this country that most heavily voted for Trump will also be the majority of the people completely hosed over by this "plan".
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bag em and tag em posted:Paul Ryan in 2020 Rip Steve Jobs. Son of a Syrian, should have been more heavily vetted.
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Saint Drogo posted:never fails I know, right? Lol.
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Ryan's take: we have crunched the numbers ourselves and found that there could be as few as 0 people uninsured!!!! If they all choose to afford our healthcare plan that is. Now, we're definitely not raising wages in any way and we'll spend the rest of our time in office dismantling unions, but that's all to increase your freedom even more! Welp, bye!
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Saint Drogo posted:never fails No way bro all those benefits from trickle down economics are gonna kick in any second now!!!!!!!!! Also I am posting this from 35 years ago.
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Oscar Wild posted:Rip Steve Jobs. Son of a Syrian, should have been more heavily vetted. Lol he did just choose not to get treatments for some holistic horseshit didnt he? Lmao.
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bag em and tag em posted:Ryan's take: we have crunched the numbers ourselves and found that there could be as few as 0 people uninsured!!!! If they all choose to afford our healthcare plan that is. Now, we're definitely not raising wages in any way and we'll spend the rest of our time in office dismantling unions, but that's all to increase your freedom even more! Welp, bye! Don't worry, charities will be there to fill in the gaps!
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Son of Rodney posted:That just sounds so comically.. evil. Hahaha yeah they elected trump as pres
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https://twitter.com/POTUS/status/841403658491301893 Lmbo BAD!
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haljordan posted:No way bro all those benefits from trickle down economics are gonna kick in any second now!!!!!!!!! Also I am posting this from 35 years ago. I have a new theory of economics, it's trickle down 2.0, or as I prefer to call it, bubbling economics. You see, by cutting taxes on the rich we add to investment in companies. This allows young well run organizations like Uber and American Apparel to grow, bubbling as it were.  https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/pissing-mouth-australia-skaters-troy-weston
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Son of Rodney posted:I'm not american so I never really understood why the republicans hate healthcare so much, can somebody maybe explain why it's such a bad thing to them that people have access to affordable healtcare? I mean, healthy people produce a lot more "value" to an economy than dying people do, it's a pretty straightforward concept. What's their beef? Well some of them are Christians that believe in prosperity theology so in their worldview if you're poor or sick it's because you're bad and you should be sad about it as God intended.
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bag em and tag em posted:Because rich people are just as loving stupid as everyone else. They look at their tax bill, their monocle pops off comically, and they go on a rampage to make sure the number gets smaller no matter what! Without ever considering anything but the numbers themselves. Fuckin lmbo at the monocle popping off
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Lacey posted:Well some of them are Christians that believe in prosperity theology so in their worldview if you're poor or sick it's because you're bad and you should be sad about it as God intended. I've heard that Mother Theresa used to willingly ignore and allow people in her places to suffer and die because it made them "closer to god"
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Lacey posted:Well some of them are Christians that believe in prosperity theology so in their worldview if you're poor or sick it's because you're bad and you should be sad about it as God intended. Oh yeah, i forgot about these deep thinkers. If you have government subsidized health care, some of those dollars might go to sinful medical procedures like abortion, or condoms.
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Guy who puts his name on every lovely building he can wonders why people advertise things
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haljordan posted:Guy who puts his name on every lovely building he can wonders why people advertise things If he was such a great candidate why did he have to spend a year and a half campaigning?
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Son of Rodney posted:I'm not american so I never really understood why the republicans hate healthcare so much, can somebody maybe explain why it's such a bad thing to them that people have access to affordable healtcare? I mean, healthy people produce a lot more "value" to an economy than dying people do, it's a pretty straightforward concept. What's their beef? Republicans are supposed to be the party of small government and free markets. In reality that's only part of it. If Obamacare "succeeds" then the people give credit to the Democrats. And healthcare industry lobbyists play a big role as well I would think. Sophy Wackles fucked around with this message at 23:11 on Mar 13, 2017 |
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Oscar Wild posted:They just don't believe that government should be involved in any way gonna tack on that ryan is a lolbertarian & they believe that gov't should only fund a police force/military and, ... uh, gently caress.... line?
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Kumo posted:gonna tack on that ryan is a lolbertarian & they believe that gov't should only fund a police force/military and, ... uh, gently caress.... How else will rich protect themselves from the poor?
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Son of Rodney posted:I'm not american so I never really understood why the republicans hate healthcare so much, can somebody maybe explain why it's such a bad thing to them that people have access to affordable healtcare? I mean, healthy people produce a lot more "value" to an economy than dying people do, it's a pretty straightforward concept. What's their beef? They are the villains from a Disney cartoon and it's really obvious to everybody who's from outside the US but for some reason Americans have real difficulty spotting it even when the republicans are cackling madly and tying a virgin to the train tracks
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Kumo posted:gonna tack on that ryan is a lolbertarian & they believe that gov't should only fund a police force/military and, ... uh, gently caress.... Lol not even a police force, it should just enforce contacts.
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a woman i went to high school with posted in her facebook feed that she voted for donald trump because 'im a smart woman'...coming from a single mother of three with a part time job someone up thread summed up pretty well why people vote republican, against their own self interest, and its because of nostalgia for a magical disneyland main street version of 1950s america that never really existed except in the movies. thats literally why donald trump is our president. lol
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Kumo posted:gonna tack on that ryan is a lolbertarian & they believe that gov't should only fund a police force/military and, ... uh, gently caress.... Control invasive government infringement on corporations so that companies can return value to its shareholders.
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Minnesota Mixup posted:How else will rich protect themselves from the poor? at first private security, but as the poors die & the oceanic/space arcologies gain investment there will be no poors i wish i was joking: http://www.businessinsider.com/peter-thiel-seastead-dream-floating-city-2017-1 Arrhythmia posted:Lol not even a police force, it should just enforce contacts. i think they'd need some class traitors to help them keep they dying wretches away from their pied-à-terres
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The ACA was just a market study for the insurance companies at this point. They got all this great data out of it and now they can figure out the absolute best way to maximize enrollments while providing as little service as possible (open markets, separate plans for pre-existing conditions etc...). The only reason they started pulling plans out of the market place early was because they had all the info they needed on it. They fully expected to eat it big in those first few years.
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hahaha meanwhile Trump's weekend vacations in Florida cost about 3 million taxpayer dollars a pop
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Flesh Forge posted:hahaha meanwhile Trump's weekend vacations in Florida cost about 3 million taxpayer dollars a pop they are also making local small business go bankrupt due to the disruption and security cordons.
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