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brugroffil posted:What is the point of an elaborate home CCTV system? I imagine finding out which of my neighbors is failing to clean up after their dogs. If I can give video to the police, rear end in a top hat neighbors get tickets. What could go wrong?
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I got a Foscam that covers my porch for like $125. Has a motion detector and uploads clips to my web server. Figure that's a pretty low cost / investment to have footage if someone ever broke in (which has happened to a neighbor three houses down even though I live in a super low crime area). Oh and if someone wants to hack it to look at my porch and driveway they are more than welcome.
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Mar 11, 2017 15:10
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Battered Cankles posted:I imagine finding out which of my neighbors is failing to clean up after their dogs. If I can give video to the police, rear end in a top hat neighbors get tickets. What could go wrong? I would do this in a heart beat. gently caress people who don't pickup after their dog.
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Mar 11, 2017 16:11
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QuarkJets posted:$2500 for a DYI CCTV system seems kind of high, don't most security companies only charge a few hundred dollars for a full installation? I guess those usually come with pretty long monitoring contracts You can save around $50/camera if you get 1080p versions instead of 4k. You do have to go through the hassle of finding a decent vendor who will sell you USA market stuff. Getting ones that are POE can be harder, I believe all the Hikvision stuff is by default. For both Hikvision and Foscam make sure you've disabled their ability to communicate with the internet at your router. Foscam's talk to China by default. Edit: And as with all things, you can save a ton of money pulling your own cat5/6/whatever low voltage cable. It's not hard, but it does involve disturbing your sentient colony of attic spiders. H110Hawk fucked around with this message at 16:41 on Mar 11, 2017 |
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Mar 11, 2017 16:31
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QuarkJets posted:$2500 for a DYI CCTV system seems kind of high, don't most security companies only charge a few hundred dollars for a full installation? I guess those usually come with pretty long monitoring contracts According to a google search I spent 10 seconds on: How much to install security cameras? The average cost of a 4 channel HD Camera system is around $1000.00 and it will take about 8-12 hours to install the system that is connected to the Internet for remote monitoring. The average labor rate per hour is ~75.00. According to actual research I did when I set up my system, companies quoted about $500/camera for a complete install of their own camera, which lines up pretty perfectly with that google search snippet. I don't know if they also try to charge you a fee to monitor it after that, I never went that far down the road with them. I also forgot the reason most people seem to want security cameras, which is so they can watch their stupid dogs all day while they are at work.
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Mar 11, 2017 16:37
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OSU_Matthew posted:Look at Lorex by Flir. They've got a great selection of systems, including some of the smallest and most affordable POe PTZ cameras I've ever seen. Plus they've got some really slick 2k/4k resolution systems with good NVRs. This looks like a nice solution except it falls under that security issue people are posting about. porkface posted:http://www.pcworld.com/article/3034265/hard-coded-password-exposes-up-to-46000-video-surveillance-dvrs-to-hacking.html brugroffil posted:What is the point of an elaborate home CCTV system? I get packages and want to be able to see if someone steals them from my porch, I've seen reports of people getting into others car lately and it would be nice to give something to the police with pictures, and I would like one that covers the pool so I can have videos of accidents/ monitor for unauthorized usage, leaks, etc.
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Mar 11, 2017 17:38
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dalstrs posted:This looks like a nice solution except it falls under that security issue people are posting about. Basically you want exactly what the hikvision poster above did + local video recording like a synology + vpn access to your house. The synology also has a package for VPN but I haven't tried it. Combine with blocking your cameras ability to hit the outside world at your router and you have a secure solution.
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Mar 11, 2017 19:23
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minivanmegafun posted:A lot of my neighbors on my south side Chicago street have cameras, which means I don't have to, particularly if my house continues to look like a dump. It just gets left alone. Right, I think that's a decent strategy. I have a home security camera system, but it's all exterior facing and pretty well hidden. I'm not using it as a deterrant, but mainly to check on alerts and notifications from my home monitoring. Like if I'm on vacation and I get a front door intrusion alert, I want to be able to see if that's a valid alert before asking someone to check on that or calling the cops. Same for a water leak or smoke alert. That lorex system was something like 320$ all said and done, and it does exactly that--gives me a way to check on stuff if I'm not home. It's a cheap peace of mind. dalstrs posted:This looks like a nice solution except it falls under that security issue people are posting about. Interesting article on the DVR password bypass. Stuff like that is why I won't get a iOT enabled front door lock or place interior cameras, since that kind of thing might be of interest to people who accumulate and sell that kind of information (like credit card numbers), whereas I don't see my exterior cameras being of much interest to the average hacker. If someone wants to look at my driveway and front porch, they can do that from google maps. At this point I just don't see that anyone bent on stealing my tools or whatever would be bothering to hack my diy home monitoring setup, because most property crime is opportunity based, say I left my garage door open and the wrong person drove by, or they noticed something that piqued their interest. That being said, H110Hawk hit the security solution on the head. That's how I have mine set up, with the cameras recording to the NVR on my LAN, and from there I set up a VPN to access everything on my lan from anywhere (eg cameras, server, etc). This way you still have internet enabled cameras, but that hard coded password hack just really isn't an issue because the camera system itself isn't talking out to the internet. Plus you're not reliant on others' cloud services which may or may not exist in a year or two.
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Mar 13, 2017 16:54
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The most important use of compromised IoT devices is to contribute to DDOS attacks. I've also heard of them being used for other botnet stuff. I have no idea if IoT cameras specifically are useful for that, but, the point here is that it's not really about someone wardriving around looking for cameras to snoop on, it's someone running scripts online to compromise tens of thousands of similar devices in order to gain control of a big network of controlled internet nodes. https://www.technologyreview.com/s/602994/iot-botnets-are-growing-and-up-for-hire/ If you have an IoT device, the reponsible thing to do is secure it. The device provider ought to be selling devices that are secure out of the box, but they're not doing a good job of that, so customers have to take some responsibility. Leperflesh fucked around with this message at 17:33 on Mar 13, 2017 |
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Mar 13, 2017 17:30
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OSU_Matthew posted:Interesting article on the DVR password bypass. Stuff like that is why I won't get a iOT enabled front door lock or place interior cameras, since that kind of thing might be of interest to people who accumulate and sell that kind of information (like credit card numbers), whereas I don't see my exterior cameras being of much interest to the average hacker. If someone wants to look at my driveway and front porch, they can do that from google maps. Google maps isn't a live video feed
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Mar 13, 2017 18:16
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Leperflesh posted:The most important use of compromised IoT devices is to contribute to DDOS attacks. I've also heard of them being used for other botnet stuff. I have no idea if IoT cameras specifically are useful for that, but, the point here is that it's not really about someone wardriving around looking for cameras to snoop on, it's someone running scripts online to compromise tens of thousands of similar devices in order to gain control of a big network of controlled internet nodes. Right, similar to the botnet with DVRs that took down VeriSign and several other certificate providers a few months back. I was just hypothesizing from a worst case scenario about the other concerns of having a home camera setup, all of which are mitigated by using a vpn to access local network contents so there's no direct exposure to the wide area network. Honestly, one of the biggest issues with a lot of these iOT enabled devices are that people just don't change the default login.
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Mar 13, 2017 18:37
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Leperflesh posted:The most important use of compromised IoT devices is to contribute to DDOS attacks. I've also heard of them being used for other botnet stuff. I have no idea if IoT cameras specifically are useful for that, but, the point here is that it's not really about someone wardriving around looking for cameras to snoop on, it's someone running scripts online to compromise tens of thousands of similar devices in order to gain control of a big network of controlled internet nodes. The cameras are all (by and large) just running linux. They are absolutely very soft targets for things like this, even if they have 0 hardcoded or default passwords.
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Mar 13, 2017 19:36
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Do we have a thread about pools here? Pool maintenance, pumps, heaters, etc? Or is this the place?
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Mar 13, 2017 20:23
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I had all of my smoke detectors replaced recently and they are all wired back to the panel. I inattentively made some bacon yesterday and found out what happens when they get triggered. Holy poo poo.
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Mar 13, 2017 22:28
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MrYenko posted:Do we have a thread about pools here? Pool maintenance, pumps, heaters, etc? It really brings home the idea of throwing money in a pit. I have an inherited hot tub, and it seems to take perhaps 400 a year in electricity, turned all the way down except when in use. Winterizing it would actually cost more than running it through, and besides winter is the best time to use it. Chemicals don't really cost too much, but you can't ignore them for more than a week or two. A pool is similar, just more expensive and with more automated treatments as I understand it.
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Mar 14, 2017 00:47
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baquerd posted:A pool is similar, just more expensive and with more automated treatments as I understand it. I found my hot tub to be far more annoying than my pool. Maybe because my pool has a small leak somewhere which prevents all the bad things from building up in the water, so I never have to really drain any water, just pay a bit more in chemicals every year to keep the levels right. Draining and refilling the hot tub twice a year was annoying. Both things came with the house, and I got rid of the hot tub about 4 months ago and I am surprised by how much less annoying stuff there is to deal with now. Plus, the pool is actually nice to look at. I also think it's hard to find a professional company to take care of a hot tub because people are gross and the hot tub water gets way nastier than pool water. I agree with your $400 estimate, and if your hot tub is in decent condition you could sell it privately or to a hot tub dealer - you won't really get much money out of it but at least it will be gone.
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Mar 14, 2017 01:23
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Droo posted:Both things came with the house, and I got rid of the hot tub about 4 months ago and I am surprised by how much less annoying stuff there is to deal with now. Plus, the pool is actually nice to look at. I also think it's hard to find a professional company to take care of a hot tub because people are gross and the hot tub water gets way nastier than pool water. Plus you keep hot tubs at optimal ick growing temperature.
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Mar 14, 2017 02:18
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(in eastern PA) "I'll wait a bit to get a snowblower until post season sales" 
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Droo posted:I found my hot tub to be far more annoying than my pool. Maybe because my pool has a small leak somewhere which prevents all the bad things from building up in the water, so I never have to really drain any water, just pay a bit more in chemicals every year to keep the levels right. Draining and refilling the hot tub twice a year was annoying. Even if your hot tub is completely broken in many ways, as long as you want to give it away to get it out of there you'll get 24 offers in 24 hours and it'll be gone in 36 hours from first posting it!
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Mar 14, 2017 04:17
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LogisticEarth posted:(in eastern PA) Same. Same. 
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Mar 14, 2017 04:52
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LogisticEarth posted:(in eastern PA) Uhhhh I need the exercise I guess.
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Mar 14, 2017 14:21
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LogisticEarth posted:(in eastern PA) You can borrow mine if you do my driveway first.
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Mar 14, 2017 14:43
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HEY NONG MAN posted:I had all of my smoke detectors replaced recently and they are all wired back to the panel. Smoke detectors really, really, really need an "I'm making bacon, please deactivate for 15 minutes" button.
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Mar 14, 2017 14:52
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Thoguh posted:Smoke detectors really, really, really need an "I'm making bacon, please deactivate for 15 minutes" button. One reason I love the Nest Protect, if it senses some mild smoke that's below a certain threshhold, it'll give you a verbal warning where the smoke is and you can go silence the alarm with a push of a button or the app. I've had it alert me once or twice in the kitchen, but I was able to override it and go open up some windows and turn on the fan to mitigate the smoke before it went ballistic.
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OSU_Matthew posted:One reason I love the Nest Protect, if it senses some mild smoke that's below a certain threshhold, it'll give you a verbal warning where the smoke is and you can go silence the alarm with a push of a button or the app. I've had it alert me once or twice in the kitchen, but I was able to override it and go open up some windows and turn on the fan to mitigate the smoke before it went ballistic. And it stays deactivated until the smoke clears, then resets, so I don't have to keep silencing it.
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Subjunctive posted:And it stays deactivated until the smoke clears, then resets, so I don't have to keep silencing it. AND the app alerts you when the smoke levels start dropping. Source: made bacon this weekend
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Mar 14, 2017 17:19
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Thoguh posted:Smoke detectors really, really, really need an "I'm making bacon, please deactivate for 15 minutes" button. Replace your ionization alarms with photoelectric alarms and you won't need that button
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Mar 14, 2017 23:35
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MrYenko posted:Do we have a thread about pools here? Pool maintenance, pumps, heaters, etc? I don't know but troublefreepool.com is where I came up to speed fast after buying a house with a pool.
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Mar 20, 2017 15:30
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uwaeve posted:I don't know but troublefreepool.com is where I came up to speed fast after buying a house with a pool. This is the same for me. Better advice there than I got from the pool store.
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uwaeve posted:I don't know but troublefreepool.com is where I came up to speed fast after buying a house with a pool. I was thinking based on the name that this was some joke website that was nothing but a blank screen. Imagine my surprise!
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Drunk Tomato posted:I was thinking based on the name that this was some joke website that was nothing but a blank screen. Imagine my surprise! I'm annoyed I didn't buy the domain first to do that very thing.
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Remember to clean out your mower deck at the end of the season, lest you end up with extra soil for your yard! (Oops that image was kind of huge, my bad) CloFan fucked around with this message at 14:51 on Mar 22, 2017 |
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Mar 22, 2017 00:34
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why is your mower full of soil?
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Because I didn't clean it out before storing it last fall, and all the accumulated leaves and lawn clippings decomposed. I actually got this mower for free with the house because the PO said it didn't work and they didn't want to bother moving it... new tires, blades, and an oil change it works just fine!
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That reminds me, I need to pick up a nice composter. I hate throwing out veggie scraps and banana peels when I could just compost them with leaves from my backyard.
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WarMECH posted:That reminds me, I need to pick up a nice composter. I hate throwing out veggie scraps and banana peels when I could just compost them with leaves from my backyard. Build one! Check craigslist for those blue HDPE drums, drill out a hole in the center for a length of pvc, and make some cross bracings with either treated or painted 2x4 lumber. Cut out some holes for ventilation and caulk some screen on the inside, cut out a hole to access it, add some hinges and some latches to keep it closed while you tumble, and voila! Or, you could just have a compost pile staked off where you dump everything compostable, and just turn it occasionally with a pitchfork.
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When I was a kid, my dad built a compost pile bin in the back yard. It was just a simple frame with 1x6 boards to hold the compost together, and when he wanted to get some dirt out, he'd remove one of the bottom 1x6s and shovel it out. Later he bought a fancy barrel composter that you could spin to mix, but he always did love buying gadgets.
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WarMECH posted:That reminds me, I need to pick up a nice composter. I hate throwing out veggie scraps and banana peels when I could just compost them with leaves from my backyard. Your local government might sell them for cheap. I bought the Sweethome recommended one from Nashville public works for like $20 less than I saw it anywhere else.
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OSU_Matthew posted:Or, you could just have a compost pile staked off where you dump everything compostable, and just turn it occasionally with a pitchfork. Dont do this, it will draw rats. You wanr something that will keep rodents out.
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therobit posted:Dont do this, it will draw rats. You wanr something that will keep rodents out. That's a really great point, I'd never considered the implications of doing this on a postage stamp lot in the suburbs. Definitely look at building a composter, it's a cheap, easy, and fun project. Just make sure the barrels you buy were used for food stuffs and not some industrial solvent.
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