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simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

So long, and thanks for all the fish gallbladdΣrs!


Haier posted:

http://www.yesasia.com/us/50-education-methods-from-a-mother-who-put-3-sons-into-stanford-university/1051005861-0-0-0-en/info.html

50 Education Methods from a Mother Who Put 3 Sons into Stanford University

Step 1: Marry a rich guy or have a lot of money from your family already.
Steps 2-48: Bribe people in various levels of the educational system from first grade through university.
Step 49: If they can't do the work properly, outsource everything to other people and write the kid's names on it.
Step 50: Write a book full of sagely bullshit grandpa advice and lie about steps 1-49.

EDIT: Secret bonurs unwritten step: Gain a ton of face for all of it, like you really accomplished something.

Just putting this out here, for 50,000RMB a month I am happy to write all your kid's university essays.

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Fauxtool
Oct 21, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
im curious to see how many generations it takes for their wealth to disappear. Considering they are usually only 1st generation rich and the little emperor has no education, I cant imagine very long.

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

Atlas Hugged posted:

Please, it's not like he wouldn't have come to this conclusion if he had arrived with the most open of minds.

I don't know if it's just my experience in Korea, but the only people I knew who didn't have a blast were almost/actual mentally ill people. If you can leave what happens at work, at work, then there are so many cool opportunities to make friends and have a great time in Korea. Also it's a prime location for jumping off to other locations in Asian. My wife and I are expecting, and thus will have to put our plans on hold for a year or two, but we can't wait to go back to Korea and see how our old haunts have changed.


Haier posted:

http://www.yesasia.com/us/50-education-methods-from-a-mother-who-put-3-sons-into-stanford-university/1051005861-0-0-0-en/info.html

50 Education Methods from a Mother Who Put 3 Sons into Stanford University

Step 1: Marry a rich guy or have a lot of money from your family already.
Steps 2-48: Bribe people in various levels of the educational system from first grade through university.
Step 49: If they can't do the work properly, outsource everything to other people and write the kid's names on it.
Step 50: Write a book full of sagely bullshit grandpa advice and lie about steps 1-49.

EDIT: Secret bonurs unwritten step: Gain a ton of face for all of it, like you really accomplished something.

I'm pretty sure you're over thinking this...

1. Step one, have enough money to pay foreign student tuition rates at Stanford.

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all

Blistex posted:

I don't know if it's just my experience in Korea, but the only people I knew who didn't have a blast were almost/actual mentally ill people. If you can leave what happens at work, at work, then there are so many cool opportunities to make friends and have a great time in Korea. Also it's a prime location for jumping off to other locations in Asian. My wife and I are expecting, and thus will have to put our plans on hold for a year or two, but we can't wait to go back to Korea and see how our old haunts have changed.

I think a lot of the anecdotes in this thread speak for themselves, but they are just anecdotes. If you go back to my posts in one of the long archived Korea threads, the one thing I usually said to people coming over (aside from: "don't") is that Korea is impossible to recommend because the conditions are different for every person that comes over. You could have an amazing school, a lovely school, a great apartment, a lovely apartment, get on well with the locals, or be a total pariah. It might be your fault, or you may have just inherited a lovely situation because the guy you replaced soured everything. The other issue and where I argued with some of the people in Korea at the time is that work makes up such a huge chunk of life that it can be tough to compartmentalize it, especially if you had a commute like mine that affected the whole rest of the day, from when you had to get up to when you had to be in bed. I may have lived in Dongducheon, but I worked in the last village in Yeoncheon county. It was misery.

It's a great jumping off point I agree, but there's a reason why the people in Bangkok and Taipei I've met who did time in Korea discuss it like veterans talk about tours of duty.

I have nothing but glowing things to say about Cambodia and Japan, but I've only ever been there as a tourist. Maybe I'd feel the same about Korea if I had only ever visited. Of course, I'm older, wiser, and a bit more world-weary these days, so maybe if Korea is where I went second or third instead of first I would have felt differently about it.

I just received an email from my dad though. "After spending an afternoon on layover in Seoul, I have to say that your [drunken, sexist] Korean friend is the nicest Korean I've ever met."

ladron
Sep 15, 2007

eso es lo que es

Blistex posted:

there are so many cool opportunities to make friends and have a great time in Korea.

I guess, just not with korean men. I had a pretty good friend, we used to hang out and speak spanish together, but one day, after like a YEAR of being friends, he just flipped and told me how disgusting it was for him to see me talking to korean women. another guy was a pretty good friend until he flipped and told me what a poo poo country america was and how he hoped everyone there would get mad cow disease, again, after a year of hanging out and even going to his wedding. they were both drunk at the time (lol of course) and both later apologized, but in a "I didn't mean for you to hear that" way...after 10 years there, I still have maybe 20 women that I keep in contact regularly with, and maybe 2 dudes. admittedly, I am an rear end in a top hat, but my experience does not at all seem to be unique...

Atlas Hugged posted:

I usually said to people coming over (aside from: "don't") is that Korea is impossible to recommend because the conditions are different for every person that comes over.

lol and pretty much. like there is one women who post(ed) in the korea thread about how great it was and how much of a good time she was having all the time, but she was an unemployed military spouse who lived in a free "Lotte Castle" apartment, got awesome american food off base all the time, and would just do tourist poo poo like making kimchi classes. she would refuse to even consider her experience might be different from the norm...meantime, I have day-drinking middle aged men yelling at me on the subway because I am talking to a (female) former student that I happened to see...

Haier
Aug 10, 2007

by Lowtax
Why is there no GBS Korea thread? It seems more people went there and Japan than ever went to China. Also, the Japan thread sucks and has people very comfortable with anime.

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all

Haier posted:

Why is there no GBS Korea thread? It seems more people went there and Japan than ever went to China. Also, the Japan thread sucks and has people very comfortable with anime.

The Female Rasputin thread is basically the default GBS Korea thread, though obviously it's ultimately focused on the presidential impeachment at the moment. But at the end of the day, there just isn't enough insane news that comes out of Korea to really keep the momentum going. In that sense, it's a pretty humdrum modern nation with corrupt politicians and corporate executives, but the government is functional enough to depose and charge them.

I think this thread works fine as the catchall "insane stories from Asia" thread even if the primary focus is on China.


ladron posted:

lol and pretty much. like there is one women who post(ed) in the korea thread about how great it was and how much of a good time she was having all the time, but she was an unemployed military spouse who lived in a free "Lotte Castle" apartment, got awesome american food off base all the time, and would just do tourist poo poo like making kimchi classes. she would refuse to even consider her experience might be different from the norm...meantime, I have day-drinking middle aged men yelling at me on the subway because I am talking to a (female) former student that I happened to see...

She was the source of at least a couple of my probations.

I'm glad I went to Korea, it's where I met my future wife and mother of my son, but saying that I kind of feel like those guys in Starship Troopers saying that the Mobile Infantry made them the men they are today, complete with missing eyes and limbs.

ladron
Sep 15, 2007

eso es lo que es

Haier posted:

Why is there no GBS Korea thread? It seems more people went there and Japan than ever went to China. Also, the Japan thread sucks and has people very comfortable with anime.

there is, it's just full of apolohists

Kharnifex
Sep 11, 2001

The Banter is better in AusGBS
Please ensure to keep the China thread pure and free from those kimchi eaters and anime watchers.

simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

So long, and thanks for all the fish gallbladdΣrs!


Kharnifex posted:

Please ensure to keep the China thread pure and free from those kimchi eaters and anime watchers.

no gently caress you china stories are good and taiwan stories are good and korea stories are good and hell even sub-human south-east-asia stories are good

I'll post some .jpg if you shut the gently caress up on your quest to be wrong

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
the worst thing posted in any of these threads is the number of people who don't like runny eggs

Riot Bimbo
Dec 28, 2006


I wont eat eggs unless ive made it myself and can sufficiently scramble it out into a dry as gently caress slab

vanity slug
Jul 20, 2010

Kharnifex posted:

Please ensure to keep the China thread pure and free from those kimchi eaters and anime watchers.

korea chat has been part of this thread for over 5000 years, please respect our history and pepperpeeping culture

ladron
Sep 15, 2007

eso es lo que es

Jose posted:

the worst thing posted in any of these threads is the number of people who don't like runny eggs

loving vile subhuman you probably eat unfrosted poptarts too you monster

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
i don't eat poptarts at all i'm not a child

ladron
Sep 15, 2007

eso es lo que es

Jose posted:

i don't eat poptarts at all i'm not a child

basically stalin

LentThem
Aug 31, 2004

90% Retractible
runny eggs had me flashing back so im retelling a story here but it entertained me:
a while ago i was on vacation in england and staying at some guest houses. since the key to tripadvisor reviews is a robust breakfast buffet, these places would go all-out and have a bunch of condiments/juices/yogurts/whatever to go with the breakfast foods. At one place I saw a big bottle of soy sauce, so I asked the owner of the guest house "Soy sauce for breakfast, is that for the Chinese guests?" He laughed and confirmed it was was for them, since the only food Chinese guests would eat were:

Fried eggs with soy sauce
or
Scrambled eggs with ketchup
or
Porridge (though english porridge not as satisfying as rice porridge)
or
Fruit

it's England, have some cumberland sausage and baked beans you babies

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


ladron posted:

I guess, just not with korean men. I had a pretty good friend, we used to hang out and speak spanish together, but one day, after like a YEAR of being friends, he just flipped and told me how disgusting it was for him to see me talking to korean women. another guy was a pretty good friend until he flipped and told me what a poo poo country america was and how he hoped everyone there would get mad cow disease, again, after a year of hanging out and even going to his wedding. they were both drunk at the time (lol of course) and both later apologized, but in a "I didn't mean for you to hear that" way...after 10 years there, I still have maybe 20 women that I keep in contact regularly with, and maybe 2 dudes. admittedly, I am an rear end in a top hat, but my experience does not at all seem to be unique...

Also in the no male Korean friends department. One of my friends has a husband who is cool and pleasant enough but we're not really friends, that's the closest I have.

For me I couldn't deal with how they treated their girlfriends. Invariably they'd seem cool and we'd have a good time but eventually I'd see them interacting with women and not want to be around people like that anymore.

I agree Korea isn't interesting enough for its own thread. It's the midwest of Asia. Very nice place to live if you don't have a Korean job or have one of the rare good bosses.

Mameluke
Aug 2, 2013

by Fluffdaddy
Just chiming in to say lol at the idea of someone who won't like Korean food because they were raised on white bread and mayo. I mean sure, Korean cuisine like kimbap and barbecue is out of the question, but this is also a country where you can buy sweet potato and mayo pizza, or a pogo with sugar on it.

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

wiggle wiggle




simplefish posted:

Fun fact: E.coli is everywhere, even in the west. It is also regional. You are probably used to your local strain, which is why you can eat McD's in America with cow bowels minced into it. After a while in any particular Asian region, your stomach will adjust, and things that would have given you terrible shits when you arrived are just processed normally. Dheli Belly is temporary.

Uh, I buy most of my meat at Walmart, and there's nothing local about it. I'm not sure if it's even Canadian, much less 'local'.

Wasn't there some talk a couple years ago about shipping dead chickens to China for cheap processing, and then shipping the meat back to the US? A glorious melange of E. coli strains.

Darkest Auer
Dec 30, 2006

They're silly

Ramrod XTreme
It's a mental illness. I knew a guy who basically refused to eat anything that wasn't his mom's cooking. God knows how or why he ended up in China, but the guy ate nothing but imported cheese and ham melted together in a microwave oven.

Vesi
Jan 12, 2005

pikachu looking at?

Jose posted:

the worst thing posted in any of these threads is the number of people who don't like runny eggs

runny egg has lower bioavailability so by not cooking it properly you're wasting food and basically eating plastic

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Darkest Auer posted:

It's a mental illness. I knew a guy who basically refused to eat anything that wasn't his mom's cooking. God knows how or why he ended up in China, but the guy ate nothing but imported cheese and ham melted together in a microwave oven.

lol at all these people who go to asia despite eating nothing but fast food

simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

So long, and thanks for all the fish gallbladdΣrs!


the secret is to eat local fast food like a local

Jimmy Little Balls
Aug 23, 2009
Currently eating rice with ketchup because I can't be arsed to go out.

Ceciltron
Jan 11, 2007

Text BEEP to 43527 for the dancing robot!
Pillbug

simplefish posted:

the secret is to eat local fast food like a local

Ah, so you mean eating rice porridge at kfc three times a week.

School Nickname
Apr 23, 2010

*fffffff-fffaaaaaaarrrtt*
:ussr:

basic hitler posted:

I wont eat eggs unless ive made it myself and can sufficiently scramble it out into a dry as gently caress slab

:same: but only because if I undercook them in the slightest my rear end in a top hat punishes me 2-3 hours later.

I'm a very picky eater myself but I think it's down to texture of the food more than anything. The only food I really dislike the actual taste of is seafood, because most of it just leaves a horrid aftertaste in my mouth, even if it tastes nice initially. My tastebuds are supremely hosed up. I love leftover bacon in dark soy though.

School Nickname fucked around with this message at 14:05 on Mar 14, 2017

Dr.Radical
Apr 3, 2011

Jose posted:

the worst thing posted in any of these threads is the number of people who don't like runny eggs

Yeah this. Y'all are a bunch of ding-a-lings. One of my go-to breakfasts is homefries with onions and bell pepper, eggs over easy on top with hot sauce. Break the yolk so it gets all up in the potatoes. Yeeeeeaaaaaaaah!

raton
Jul 28, 2003

by FactsAreUseless
If you don't like a runny egg it's like you're telling me you never graduated high school or didn't have sex until you were 28 or something like that.

raton fucked around with this message at 14:20 on Mar 14, 2017

raton
Jul 28, 2003

by FactsAreUseless
The reason there isn't a Korea thread is that for some reason Korea attracts a lot of low quality posters proportionally. It's hard to say exactly what it is but like all the people who got a bio degree and are going to do exactly one year abroad before returning to Canada to try to make Youtube videos for a living go to Korea. So not only is the country kind of generic a lot of the expats there are too.

raton fucked around with this message at 14:23 on Mar 14, 2017

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

Jimmy Little Balls posted:

Another lift thing is people here loving love to stand right in front of the buttons when they get in so no one else can get to them.

A few years ago at work, we had a visiting specialist from, unsurprisingly, China who tried to pull that poo poo.

However, all our elevators have buttons on both sides of the door. So you could still press your floor's button while he just stood there like an idiot, glaring at you. He never stopped doing it the entire time he was here either. He'd press his button then practically hump the control panel while everyone just shrugged and used the other one.


Best moment was when the two of us were having an argument while waiting for an elevator. Because it arrived first, I got into the freight lift which no one else at my work ever seems to want to use. He walks in, spies that there's only one set of buttons on either side of the doors and plants himself in the corner in front of the buttons to stop me pressing them and starts back up with whatever stupid poo poo he was saying.

So I walk over to the other doors and press the open button there and, completely ignoring him, proceed to walk out into the corridor to the warehouse area while he stood there, refusing to move.

ladron
Sep 15, 2007

eso es lo que es

simplefish posted:

the secret is to eat local fast food like a local

lotteria supremacy

School Nickname posted:

My tastebuds are supremely hosed up. I love leftover bacon in dark soy though.


jfc just get a salt lick

ocrumsprug
Sep 23, 2010

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Gorilla Salad posted:

A few years ago at work, we had a visiting specialist from, unsurprisingly, China who tried to pull that poo poo.

However, all our elevators have buttons on both sides of the door. So you could still press your floor's button while he just stood there like an idiot, glaring at you. He never stopped doing it the entire time he was here either. He'd press his button then practically hump the control panel while everyone just shrugged and used the other one.

How people like that get through life without getting murdered I will never understand.

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all

ladron posted:

lotteria supremacy

Year round McRib gently caress yeah.

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Ceciltron posted:

Ah, so you mean eating rice porridge at kfc three times a week.

They were serving Japanese Beef bowls so you get to mix it up!

Seriously though gently caress all people go to KFC in Hong Kong. It was bad enough they have people outside the stores trying to get people through the door.

simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

So long, and thanks for all the fish gallbladdΣrs!


Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

Fauxtool posted:

im curious to see how many generations it takes for their wealth to disappear. Considering they are usually only 1st generation rich and the little emperor has no education, I cant imagine very long.

I think I posted this scenario before, but this is how I imagined it going on for your typical "smash and grab" Chinese family moving to Vancouver.

The family manages to get $20 million dollars CDN out of China on top of the money they already spent to buy their $3-4 million dollar Vancouver mansion (2,500 square feet home) as well as a 1.5 million dollar apartment/condo. They have a single male son who is 19 and is going to start his BA at some West coast university. The wife doesn't work, and the husband has cut his ties with China and any hope of making additional money because he can't risk going back and getting caught for fraud.

$15,000 a year in Property taxes
$20,000 a year in Home/Apartment Insurance
$15,000 a year in Auto insurance
$25,000 a year in Tuition/School expenses (for 4-5 years) which then turns into $100,000 a year to support their son who never gets a job.
$10,000 a year in random municipal and building fees
$10,000 a year in food
$200,000 a year in luxury products and trips
$80,000 a year in new car expenses (assuming one of their three cars is being replaced each year)
$10,000 a year gold/country club membership
$10,000 on whores
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
~$275,000 a year. (spending any less, or living a less extravagant lifestyle would mean losing much face)

They have about 50-60 years of living like absolute useless pigs without any manner of income before they would have to sell off a property and buy themselves another 10 years or so of worry-free living. Having a son that actually gets a job and manages to support himself would move them from that 50-60 years to 60-70 years. Now families who try and do the same without a 20 million dollar pillow are going to find that they're running out of money much faster because they still have to maintain that façade lifestyle. For the super-rich, their kids are likely never going to have to work a day in their lives, or worry about the money taps turning off, but for the ones that were not lucky enough to have parents packing 20 million plus, they're likely going to have to roll up their sleeves or tighten their belts.

This is all assuming that they don't go broke instantly due to a criminal/civil suit resulting from one of them running over someone with their car.

mbt
Aug 13, 2012

i want some real advice from the china thread

assuming 9 days of vacation, where in asia isnt awful to go to between korea (south), japan, china, hongkong, other (insert non-india country here)

my fiance (not chinese) is rockhard to see the great wall some day and I'm trying to convince her that it actually sucks but that might be a losing battle

Pirate Radar
Apr 18, 2008

You're not my Ruthie!
You're not my Debbie!
You're not my Sherry!
More info. What do you like seeing? Nature? Street food? Temples?

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mbt
Aug 13, 2012

Pirate Radar posted:

More info. What do you like seeing? Nature? Street food? Temples?

all of the above, we're touristy as heck. if we went to japan there's a good chance we'd be one of the mt. fuji walkers

good beer/wine/liquor is a plus

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