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Malgrin
Mar 16, 2010

Dr. Venture posted:

The big one is TM on crit, which makes Lando a monster.

Yeah, Getting 50% TM is fun.

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Numismancer
Sep 15, 2004

by sebmojo
Oh jesus, TM on crit for Lando. Yeah. This all makes sense now.

waah
Jun 20, 2011

Better stay in line when
You see a Pavel like me shinin

Chilichimp posted:

Any guild got room for my alt account Chump Squad?

975-163-885

also, need some high level friends.

Not a problem. Glad to return the favor.

Chevy Slyme
May 2, 2004

We're Gonna Run.

We're Gonna Crawl.

Kick Down Every Wall.
Basically, you run Lando lead (or replace Boba with an Ackbar lead) if your STHan can't get his taunt off before the other guy. Wedge is best so long as you have the speed to get that shutdown opener.

Malgrin
Mar 16, 2010

CaptainPsyko posted:

Basically, you run Lando lead (or replace Boba with an Ackbar lead) if your STHan can't get his taunt off before the other guy. Wedge is best so long as you have the speed to get that shutdown opener.

Boba is faster than STH, so it's easier to win the STH/STH battle with Boba (Wiggs, STH, Lando, Boba).

Chevy Slyme
May 2, 2004

We're Gonna Run.

We're Gonna Crawl.

Kick Down Every Wall.

Malgrin posted:

Boba is faster than STH, so it's easier to win the STH/STH battle with Boba (Wiggs, STH, Lando, Boba).

Yeah, if you can use Boba's ability block to win the taunt battle, that's one way to do it. The point is still "taunt before the other guy"

Numismancer
Sep 15, 2004

by sebmojo
Does this mean that for mod priority on secondary +speed boosts, I should be prioritizing Boba > STH > Else for speed? Until now I'd been doing Boba > Lando > Else and not really focusing on making sure STH goes fast with secondary +speed.

Edit: I have the fastest Boba on my baby shard at 186, just diddled my mods around to get STH to 167 which is way faster than before but probably #4 in overall speed on the shard of STHs. Ginding mods blows rear end.

Numismancer fucked around with this message at 21:55 on Mar 13, 2017

Chevy Slyme
May 2, 2004

We're Gonna Run.

We're Gonna Crawl.

Kick Down Every Wall.

Numismancer posted:

Does this mean that for mod priority on secondary +speed boosts, I should be prioritizing Boba > STH > Else for speed? Until now I'd been doing Boba > Lando > Else and not really focusing on making sure STH goes fast with secondary +speed.

Edit: I have the fastest Boba on my baby shard at 186, just diddled my mods around to get STH to 167 which is way faster than before but probably #4 in overall speed on the shard of STHs. Ginding mods blows rear end.

Speed for Han is great because when he taunts, the rest of your team will get to go basically immediately, and then every time his turn comes up, he'll knock TM off of your whole opposing team.

Malgrin
Mar 16, 2010

Numismancer posted:

Does this mean that for mod priority on secondary +speed boosts, I should be prioritizing Boba > STH > Else for speed? Until now I'd been doing Boba > Lando > Else and not really focusing on making sure STH goes fast with secondary +speed.

Edit: I have the fastest Boba on my baby shard at 186, just diddled my mods around to get STH to 167 which is way faster than before but probably #4 in overall speed on the shard of STHs. Ginding mods blows rear end.

There are two "best" solutions for the Wiggs mirror. One is having an STH faster than anyone else's STH, Boba, etc, so that you always get to taunt first. The other best solution is to have the fastest Biggs so that you can snipe an opposing character and play 5v4. If you kill their Wedge before their Biggs or STH goes, you'll probably win.
Next best options, which are all about equal because they rely on a debuff:
TFP: + Applies two debuffs that prevent STH from taunting, AB, which buys you a turn, or BI, which doesn't prevent the initial TM gain, but does prevent the taunt
Boba: + 2 turn AB, goes through auto-taunts
B2: Best against a faster Wiggs -- will get triggered by Biggs opening shot and BI and/or dispel from STH

Option D: bring someone with a dispel, like QGJ

Space Crabs
Mar 10, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
i just want to chime in and say holy poo poo chaze.

I just unlocked them at 3 stars and haven't even started really gearing them up yet, one is 50 the other is 40.

I ran into a GW node 11 that my A team was going to suffer huge casualties trying to beat so I threw a random B team with my new chaze on it at them hoping to burn up some specials or something, but I actually almost beat the entire team with 20-30 underleveled chaze.

Malgrin
Mar 16, 2010

Space Crabs posted:

i just want to chime in and say holy poo poo chaze.

I just unlocked them at 3 stars and haven't even started really gearing them up yet, one is 50 the other is 40.

I ran into a GW node 11 that my A team was going to suffer huge casualties trying to beat so I threw a random B team with my new chaze on it at them hoping to burn up some specials or something, but I actually almost beat the entire team with 20-30 underleveled chaze.

Yup. It's worth spending crystals to get them to 4*.

Dr. Venture
Sep 26, 2011
When they first came out someone made a video of themselves winning 2v5 battles using Chaze against the very top people in their arena shard.

Davethulhu
Aug 12, 2003

Morbid Hound

Dr. Venture posted:

When they first came out someone made a video of themselves winning 2v5 battles using Chaze against the very top people in their arena shard.

Their main vulnerability is to Boba, because they can stack up a ton of heal over time buffs.

Dr. Venture
Sep 26, 2011

Davethulhu posted:

Their main vulnerability is to Boba, because they can stack up a ton of heal over time buffs.

Oh yeah, definitely. I think the video might have been before his rework.

Space Crabs
Mar 10, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
my shard the top 40 is almost entirely nihilus - dooku - vader- trooper - sidious teams so whenever I get chaze going I doubt I'll run into many Bobas, at least on defense

Davethulhu
Aug 12, 2003

Morbid Hound

Space Crabs posted:

my shard the top 40 is almost entirely nihilus - dooku - vader- trooper - sidious teams so whenever I get chaze going I doubt I'll run into many Bobas, at least on defense

There are exactly zero nihilus leads on my shard, with a dec 2015 start date. The top 10 (including me :smug:) are 1 wedge, 1 GK, 1 QGJ, 1 Kylo, 1 Vader, 2 Rex, 3 Maul.

Chevy Slyme
May 2, 2004

We're Gonna Run.

We're Gonna Crawl.

Kick Down Every Wall.
My shard is weirdly frozen in time from its inception in September of '16 with 11 Wedge leads in the top 20, along with one each of Palp, HK-47, Ackbar and Rex, and two Boba's. There's only three Zeta's in the top 20 - one Maul, one QGJ, and my Darth Vader.

(There's also one dude who runs a Dooku lead who somehow ends up in the top five every other day and then falls to like 40th.)

two_step
Sep 2, 2011
Probably the best rancor rewards I have ever gotten:



Full cuffs and a full furnace!

Chevy Slyme
May 2, 2004

We're Gonna Run.

We're Gonna Crawl.

Kick Down Every Wall.

two_step posted:

Probably the best rancor rewards I have ever gotten:



Full cuffs and a full furnace!

And for coming in 25th!

Pyronic
Oct 1, 2008

ROYAL RAINWHARRGARBL
I totally forgot how annoying it is that reset isn't till 1AM during daylight savings.

fullTimeLurker
Nov 10, 2010

Thanks Pyronic and Dr. Venture

I guess I need to work on my Rebels and Scoundrels. So my Ahsoka and Phasma are worthless right now? And for my lightside team, should I level up another healer besides Bariss?

Davethulhu
Aug 12, 2003

Morbid Hound

fullTimeLurker posted:

Thanks Pyronic and Dr. Venture

I guess I need to work on my Rebels and Scoundrels. So my Ahsoka and Phasma are worthless right now? And for my lightside team, should I level up another healer besides Bariss?

Phasma has use in posting high scores against the Rancor and Ahsoka has a pretty good ship, but yeah focus rebels/scoundrels

Dr. Venture
Sep 26, 2011

fullTimeLurker posted:

So my Ahsoka and Phasma are worthless right now? And for my lightside team, should I level up another healer besides Bariss?

Ashoka has decent synergy with JKA so she's not worthless, and while her ship isn't the best it's certainly serviceable.

Phasma is good for Rancor and phase 1 of HAAT. You're looking at Teebo(L), Ewok Elder, TFP, QGJ, Phasma.

Bariss is the only healer you need. Most of your healing will come from Wedge lead anyway. I used Lumi as a lowbie and you'll eventually reach a point where having another damage dealer is better than bringing heals.

Jerkface
May 21, 2001

HOW DOES IT FEEL TO BE DEAD, MOTHERFUCKER?

Ahsoka can stomp in a zQGJ arena team. Ive seen her run instead of kit fisto in a qgj/yoda/jka/aayla/ahsoka team and her special crit for like 30k

Mr. Neutron
Sep 15, 2012

~I'M THE BEST~

Jerkface posted:

Ahsoka can stomp in a zQGJ arena team. Ive seen her run instead of kit fisto in a qgj/yoda/jka/aayla/ahsoka team and her special crit for like 30k

Can confirm.

Space Crabs
Mar 10, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
When were those hypothetical changes nobody has confirmed might happen to some of the shipment shops roughly supposed to maybe happen?

I only ask because I'm at the point where I have a good spread of characters that take more resources than I generate and I need a long time to level them and gear them so I might start saving things like Cantina credits or guild shop credits.

Dr. Venture
Sep 26, 2011

Space Crabs posted:

When were those hypothetical changes nobody has confirmed might happen to some of the shipment shops roughly supposed to maybe happen? .

https://mobile.twitter.com/Darokaz/status/840295277726650368

That's all the info I have.

Space Crabs
Mar 10, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
I'll probably save some cantina credits now and arena credits when I finish getting STH to 7* then.

Wait what if they remove some of the good people that are there now that I would be skipping :argh:

Chilichimp
Oct 24, 2006

TIE Adv xWampa

It wamp, and it stomp

Grimey Drawer

Space Crabs posted:

I'll probably save some cantina credits now and arena credits when I finish getting STH to 7* then.

Wait what if they remove some of the good people that are there now that I would be skipping :argh:

There are definitely some toons that I wouldn't mind seeing gone from those shops.

Bayham Badger
Jan 19, 2007

Secretly force socialism, communism and imperialism types of government onto the people of the United States of America.

Yeah I would really like to see characters like Ugnaught and CUP replaced with some decent characters in arena shop.

fishtobaskets
Feb 22, 2007

It's not about butthole pleasures
Lipstick Apathy
Given the surging prevalence of zetas in the meta, would it be a good idea to re-word the OP to say something like GET 5-8 DS SHIPS TO 4* ASAP, so that newer players are ready to begin farming them as soon as possible? It doesn't look like there's a level requirement for either the Tier 4 Executrix challenge or the Tier 3 ship ability mats challenge, so it seems like the sooner you have your DS ships ready to do attempts to get your Executrix, the better.

Chevy Slyme
May 2, 2004

We're Gonna Run.

We're Gonna Crawl.

Kick Down Every Wall.

fishtobaskets posted:

Given the surging prevalence of zetas in the meta, would it be a good idea to re-word the OP to say something like GET 5-8 DS SHIPS TO 4* ASAP, so that newer players are ready to begin farming them as soon as possible? It doesn't look like there's a level requirement for either the Tier 4 Executrix challenge or the Tier 3 ship ability mats challenge, so it seems like the sooner you have your DS ships ready to do attempts to get your Executrix, the better.

There's a level requirement - it's like... 72 or somesuch.

That said, it's good advice! I was ~level 60 when ships hit (like bare minimum to start on them right away) - and focused on a plan that gave me the DS ships necessary to beat both of those challenges as soon as they unlocked. The result was that I had my first Zeta a few days after I hit 80, and was, for about a month until a day or three ago, the only Zeta haver running on my arena shard. Which was a huge leg up.

Chilichimp
Oct 24, 2006

TIE Adv xWampa

It wamp, and it stomp

Grimey Drawer
Chaze can suck my dick, rly

a 3* and 4* got no business being that loving clutch in endgame, imo, especially when so few people actually get to have them.

ijii
Mar 17, 2007
I'M APPARENTLY GAY AND MY POSTING SUCKS.
Looks like I'm hitting a wall at level 36. I'm getting flattened in the lvl3 Cantina battles, I've halted on 4-A in the light side battles for now because those have become increasingly difficult, and even worse I've stopped at 3-H on dark side battles. The bottleneck here for me is not having enough three-star or four-star heroes.

Light side heroes I'm not too worried about since a lot of the ones recommended here are available and I just need to go through the laborious process of farming them, plus I unlocked Lando yesterday. Dark side heroes is another issue. I've got Talia at 3*, Royal Guard at 1*, Tie Fighter Pilot at 2*, and Snowtrooper at 1* -- all leveled with level 3 or 4 gear. I guess I'll be spending the next several days farming genosian soldier shards, Talia shards, and spending cantina credits to unlock Boba Fett in order to progress further in dark side battles.

I kinda wish I've been spending my Squad Arena credits on IG-88 instead of Stormtrooper Han so I can buff up my dark side team first.

Also the only guild store heroes I see are Dengar and Ewok Elder, I don't see Rex, Darth Maul or the others mentioned in OP. What gives?

Danzel Glovington
Mar 16, 2006

I'm too old to bury my son!

I finally got the Slave 1 and hoooo boy it's already showing some strength in the arena. Phew I was getting so anxious. Scimitar is only one pull away too whenever it decides to show up.

I suppose I should keep farming them all the way to 7* since they seem like top tier ships. I'll have to always have like 1600 arena tokens saved in case I see them

Chevy Slyme
May 2, 2004

We're Gonna Run.

We're Gonna Crawl.

Kick Down Every Wall.

ijii posted:

Looks like I'm hitting a wall at level 36. I'm getting flattened in the lvl3 Cantina battles, I've halted on 4-A in the light side battles for now because those have become increasingly difficult, and even worse I've stopped at 3-H on dark side battles. The bottleneck here for me is not having enough three-star or four-star heroes.

Light side heroes I'm not too worried about since a lot of the ones recommended here are available and I just need to go through the laborious process of farming them, plus I unlocked Lando yesterday. Dark side heroes is another issue. I've got Talia at 3*, Royal Guard at 1*, Tie Fighter Pilot at 2*, and Snowtrooper at 1* -- all leveled with level 3 or 4 gear. I guess I'll be spending the next several days farming genosian soldier shards, Talia shards, and spending cantina credits to unlock Boba Fett in order to progress further in dark side battles.

I kinda wish I've been spending my Squad Arena credits on IG-88 instead of Stormtrooper Han so I can buff up my dark side team first.

Also the only guild store heroes I see are Dengar and Ewok Elder, I don't see Rex, Darth Maul or the others mentioned in OP. What gives?

Guild shop heroes and ship shop heroes are a rotating stock.

Pyronic
Oct 1, 2008

ROYAL RAINWHARRGARBL

ijii posted:

Looks like I'm hitting a wall at level 36. I'm getting flattened in the lvl3 Cantina battles, I've halted on 4-A in the light side battles for now because those have become increasingly difficult, and even worse I've stopped at 3-H on dark side battles. The bottleneck here for me is not having enough three-star or four-star heroes.

Light side heroes I'm not too worried about since a lot of the ones recommended here are available and I just need to go through the laborious process of farming them, plus I unlocked Lando yesterday. Dark side heroes is another issue. I've got Talia at 3*, Royal Guard at 1*, Tie Fighter Pilot at 2*, and Snowtrooper at 1* -- all leveled with level 3 or 4 gear. I guess I'll be spending the next several days farming genosian soldier shards, Talia shards, and spending cantina credits to unlock Boba Fett in order to progress further in dark side battles.

I kinda wish I've been spending my Squad Arena credits on IG-88 instead of Stormtrooper Han so I can buff up my dark side team first.

Also the only guild store heroes I see are Dengar and Ewok Elder, I don't see Rex, Darth Maul or the others mentioned in OP. What gives?

try and get some level 85 ally codes if you dont already have some, bringing somebody's maxed out palpatine or Vader can really carry you through a lot of that stuff.

Crumbletron
Jul 21, 2006



IT'S YOUR BOY JESUS, MANE
Keep working on Han. I didn't like him at your level because I didn't really fully get his abilities and he's also a bit weak early on but he gets hella strong later

Chilichimp
Oct 24, 2006

TIE Adv xWampa

It wamp, and it stomp

Grimey Drawer

ijii posted:

Looks like I'm hitting a wall at level 36. I'm getting flattened in the lvl3 Cantina battles, I've halted on 4-A in the light side battles for now because those have become increasingly difficult, and even worse I've stopped at 3-H on dark side battles. The bottleneck here for me is not having enough three-star or four-star heroes.

Light side heroes I'm not too worried about since a lot of the ones recommended here are available and I just need to go through the laborious process of farming them, plus I unlocked Lando yesterday. Dark side heroes is another issue. I've got Talia at 3*, Royal Guard at 1*, Tie Fighter Pilot at 2*, and Snowtrooper at 1* -- all leveled with level 3 or 4 gear. I guess I'll be spending the next several days farming genosian soldier shards, Talia shards, and spending cantina credits to unlock Boba Fett in order to progress further in dark side battles.

I kinda wish I've been spending my Squad Arena credits on IG-88 instead of Stormtrooper Han so I can buff up my dark side team first.

Also the only guild store heroes I see are Dengar and Ewok Elder, I don't see Rex, Darth Maul or the others mentioned in OP. What gives?

no. Lando to 7*, gently caress progress, get high level friends to carry you through that lowbie poo poo.

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Dr. Venture
Sep 26, 2011

ijii posted:

Dark side heroes is another issue. I've got Talia at 3*, Royal Guard at 1*, Tie Fighter Pilot at 2*, and Snowtrooper at 1* -- all leveled with level 3 or 4 gear. I guess I'll be spending the next several days farming genosian soldier shards, Talia shards, and spending cantina credits to unlock Boba Fett in order to progress further in dark side battles.

I kinda wish I've been spending my Squad Arena credits on IG-88 instead of Stormtrooper Han so I can buff up my dark side team first.

STHan is great for arena, don't worry about it. Please don't farm Talia shards, just follow the OP and what I suggested a couple lines up to someone else. Finish farming Lando; it doesn't matter if you can't go further in cantina battles when you have the node you need unlocked.

I just set Darth Maul as my dark side leader. He should be able to carry you pretty far since he gains 100% TM on killing blow. Just post your ally code and I will add you.

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