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pr0zac posted:NaCl is the academic implementation, you want libsodium which has wrappers for multiple languages
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that's what you gotta remember about djb: yes he is a genius and everything he writes is Good but everything he writes is also Unusable because he's stubborn as gently caress
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fishmech posted:huh i thought the dolphin guys decided to start seriously working on wii u support once the system got discontinued, whats this cemu thing some say its closed because they got access to internal documentation / code they weren't suppose to have, which is why development has been so quick.
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A Yolo Wizard posted:some say its closed because they got access to internal documentation / code they weren't suppose to have, which is why development has been so quick. nonsense, everyone knows nintendo doesn't provide good documentation to anyone
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except for that guys uncle
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Lutha Mahtin posted:a lot of yosposters are fans of the NaCl crypto library, so i was reading up on it. don't bother, use the libsodium spinoff. nacl has a too special by half build system, I doubt you can even cross-compile it. libsodium has a sane build system, can be cross-compiled, can target web (both emscripten and native client), has a few extra goodies like secure memory handling and some more algorithms (standard ones, like aes-gcm instead of xsalsa20/poly1305, for regulatory compliance), and a simplified less error prone (therefore more secure) api
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i managed to get 2nd place in a ctf today using the powers of google i'll explain at 4 pm pdt tomorrow lol
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OSI bean dip posted:i managed to get 2nd place in a ctf today using the powers of google Unsalted md5s?
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Jabor posted:Unsalted md5s? close
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Capture the flag is fun. I am glad you got second!
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OSI bean dip posted:close Uncompressed mp3s?
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fishmech posted:there's pressed disc copies like for every disc based console, any proof of this? I've never heard about pressed pirate disc copies that work on unmodded consoles, ever
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Volmarias posted:Uncompressed mp3s? ...WAVs?
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cheese-cube posted:...WAVs? AIFF
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ymgve posted:any proof of this? I've never heard about pressed pirate disc copies that work on unmodded consoles, ever dreamcast lets you run wild but that's the only one without some bootsy hacks
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the year of malware on the anroid https://security.googleblog.com/2017/03/detecting-and-eliminating-chamois-fraud.html
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https://zcoin.io/language/en/important-announcement-zerocoin-implementation-bug/
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ymgve posted:any proof of this? I've never heard about pressed pirate disc copies that work on unmodded consoles, ever I'm about 95% sure that a properly pressed copy would work fine for an Xbox or Xbox 360, and it wouldn't surprise me to find the same applied to Xbox One. Their security, at least on the first two, comes down to flags in the game header indicating which media types a binary is allowed to run off of. The custom firmwares for Xbox 360 DVD drives just make the drives lie and say it's an Xbox game disc rather than a DVD-R. The same trick worked on the original Xbox, but only a few people ever bothered because those were so easy to completely hack. There are definitely non-standard tracks on an Xbox game disc, but if you're at the scale of pressing copies I can't imagine it's hard to replicate those things. Their security is basically designed to defeat small to medium scale piracy, probably with the assumption that anyone operating on a large enough scale to press copies will be large enough to be worth going after legally. There is unlikely to ever be a Dreamcast-grade hack where unmodified hardware can boot copies made with equipment available to normal people.
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EndlessRagdoll posted:dreamcast lets you run wild but that's the only one without some bootsy hacks dreamcast and I think maybe sega saturn and some other consoles from that era can run games on normal burned CDs, so there was no need to press pirate copies there were also some warez compilations on pc that I think were professionally pressed, like https://twilight-cd.com/ but of course for that you don't need to worry about reproducing state of the art copy protection which every playstation, xbox and nintendo console has used
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cinci zoo sniper posted:https://zcoin.io/language/en/important-announcement-zerocoin-implementation-bug/ The most annoying thing about these articles is having to go remind myself which is zcoin and which is zcash and what the differences are each time
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ymgve posted:dreamcast and I think maybe sega saturn and some other consoles from that era can run games on normal burned CDs, so there was no need to press pirate copies Sega Saturn had protections but the Sega CD did not.
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3DO will also read burned discs without modification, although it's very selective about what type of burned discs it will reliably read.
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infernal machines posted:3DO will also read burned discs without modification, although it's very selective about what type of burned discs it will reliably read. yeah that's usually just because console lasers are crap though
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FTC: IoT will just have to self-regulate. i'm sure it'll be fine
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what would the scope of IoT regulation be, if there were some? "thing with network connection"? seems more FCC at that point
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ymgve posted:any proof of this? I've never heard about pressed pirate disc copies that work on unmodded consoles, ever uh, yeah? back in the day people would call them "hong kong silver" discs, they started up in earnest for the PlayStation and Sega Saturn. the pirates would make masters either via getting a hold of a used master from the real production run or though careful work with replicating retail discs, and they'd also pay for laser cutting the codes in special areas that some systems demand. it's all relatively easy to do, you just need a decent chunk of capital to start the process. ymgve posted:dreamcast and I think maybe sega saturn and some other consoles from that era can run games on normal burned CDs, so there was no need to press pirate copies you're misunderstanding something here. these discs were produced and sold to consumers as legit discs, in the same way that the shady guy on the street corner has cheap DVDs nowadays. saturn can't run burned CDs just as is, either you need a mod chip for it to do it or you need to perform a fairly tricky swap operation like you'd also do on the playstation. these discs you could just plop int he system and play because they were identical in manufacture. here's an example hong kong silver disc, which will boot right up in any PlayStation:   Notice that the pirate manufacturers didn't bother to use the dye to make the ink black like on most PSX games, because that's completely unneccesary to the copy protection.
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Subjunctive posted:what would the scope of IoT regulation be, if there were some? "thing with network connection"? seems more FCC at that point roughly, something mandating ongoing manufacturer support and minimum levels of security for internet connected devices. e.g. your fridge/stove/babymonitor/drone/doorbell connects to the internet in any fashion then you have to provide security updates for x number of years for any discovered vulnerabilities and it has to have some basic level of authenticated access, no hard coded root passwords, etc. have really basic pen testing certification requirement, like a CE mark
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infernal machines posted:roughly, something mandating ongoing manufacturer support and minimum levels of security for internet connected devices. literally nothing would currently pass, the cries from industry would be amazing
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yes, but that's the whole point of having something like the FTC, to pass regulation to protect consumers because businesses will not do it voluntarily.
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infernal machines posted:roughly, something mandating ongoing manufacturer support and minimum levels of security for internet connected devices. legislation dictating process is always bad, dictate results instead. Telling them they need to patch doesn't mean they'll patch right and you cant ever create valuable standards around their code quality or security. A better idea is making manufacturers liable for security or other breaches involving their products. It doesn't matter how they keep their products secure, only that they do.
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fishmech posted:uh, yeah? back in the day people would call them "hong kong silver" discs, they started up in earnest for the PlayStation and Sega Saturn. the pirates would make masters either via getting a hold of a used master from the real production run or though careful work with replicating retail discs, and they'd also pay for laser cutting the codes in special areas that some systems demand. You still needed a modded console to play HK silvers, they didn't include the copy protection region.
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spankmeister posted:You still needed a modded console to play HK silvers, they didn't include the copy protection region. 'mechin
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infernal machines posted:yes, but that's the whole point of having something like the FTC, to pass regulation to protect consumers because businesses will not do it voluntarily.
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anthonypants posted:afaik the CE mark is a lot like UL certification, and neither of those are the american government but the FTC requires those certifications for certain types of products to be sold in the us.
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infernal machines posted:but the FTC requires those certifications for certain types of products to be sold in the us.
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spankmeister posted:You still needed a modded console to play HK silvers, they didn't include the copy protection region. true. some people are confused b/c there were some reprints released with silver discs but these were legit releases not bootlegs
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anthonypants posted:okay but you think the FTC should itself certify products for sale in the us. do you believe that this is an attainable goal cpsc banned hoverboards without a ul label
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