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loquacius posted:I still don't understand how people can fly both an American and a Confederate flag at the same time without noticing the hypocrisy Because one flag represents a country and one flag represents the concept of American white supremacy. At this point, the battle flag is not a representation of the confederate government, just the concept that black people are subhuman. That's why it made a resurgence when the Civil Rights movement got started. They weren't suddenly wanting to defend the short lived government, just show their support for white supremacy.
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loquacius posted:I still don't understand how people can fly both an American and a Confederate flag at the same time without noticing the hypocrisy To a certain extent there's legitimate buy-in on the hilariously misguided notion that the confederate flag represents a rebellious streak that the goddamn Yanks can't suppress, yadda yadda muh South will rise again yadda yadda, and then there's the added benefit of it being a somewhat "acceptable" way to flaunt one's racism.
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usenet celeb 1992 posted:"Yes, folks, it's true: this brain damaged retrograde old piece of poo poo who drew Sambos for a living and was, in print, barely more articulate than your racist uncle on Facebook who posts in all caps, was in actuality a Secret Genious and we mourn his loss. And now, why we should blow up Nauru." "I found myself unable to stop nodding in agreement with this brokebrained goblin. As a person barely capable of defending my own beliefs, his 'NO U' philosophy was deeply appealing to me. I always knew I was better than liberals, and here was Bill, misapplying half-remembered first-semester psychology to prove it! At the end of the night (as all wonderful nights must end), I watched him disassemble into a pile of wretched vermin with more than a little longing."
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SomeMathGuy posted:Yep: lol a confederate flag and a Vatican flag, somehow
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Kurtofan posted:lol a confederate flag and a Vatican flag, somehow Don't forget the 'Don't Tread On Me' flag as well.
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loquacius posted:I still don't understand how people can fly both an American and a Confederate flag at the same time without noticing the hypocrisy I love America, also check out my flag flown in war against America.
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Spoeank posted:I love America, also check out my flag flown in war against America. "Check out my two tattoos. This one on here is to commemorate the love for my husband, Steve. This one is for the time I tried to escape from Steve, but he caught me and now we're making the best of a bad situation."
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Mar 14, 2017 18:29
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loquacius posted:Bold, intrepid, principled lifelong liberal who fights for the rights of the oppressed, writing post #96 of his argument in defense of rich people: "Yes. This is the hill I will die on." As opposed to writing in defense of the Klan?
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Fulchrum posted:As opposed to writing in defense of the Klan? no one did this hth
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loquacius posted:no one did this hth
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Fulchrum posted:People are constantly doing this, saying it's not their fault and it was just those evil rich people tricking the poor innocent whites into being white supremacists. That you don't want to admit that is not my fault, nor is it something I'm inclined to give cover for. Proposing alternate theories for how Republicans get elected than "the majority of people in some parts of the country are just lovely and Beneath Us" is not "writing in defense of the Klan" Fulchrum you need to learn the difference between the opponents in your head and the ones you're actually talking to
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loquacius posted:Proposing alternate theories for how Republicans get elected than "the majority of people in some parts of the country are just lovely and Beneath Us" is not "writing in defense of the Klan" Good idea. Let's start with the ones who didn't say a goddamn word about Republicans getting elected and instead decided to argue that Jim Crow laws were actually a conspiracy by the rich solely to benefit themselves, and that the Tulsa riots actually were all about class and had nothing to do with race. You start by admitting those are arguments dumbfucks made, and this idea that it wasn't a defence of racism is all in your head.
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Fulchrum posted:Good idea. Let's start with the ones who didn't say a goddamn word about Republicans getting elected and instead decided to argue that Jim Crow laws were actually a conspiracy by the rich solely to benefit themselves, and that the Tulsa riots actually were all about class and had nothing to do with race. No one is saying racism doesn't exist today, and no one is ESPECIALLY saying that racism didn't exist during the hilariously racist early- and mid-20th centuries, you're just stubbornly insisting that the fact that racism exists means the rich are actually a net positive force on society Again, you're not having the same conversation as everyone else
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loquacius posted:No one is saying racism doesn't exist today, and no one is ESPECIALLY saying that racism didn't exist during the hilariously racist early- and mid-20th centuries, Improbable Lobster posted:Racism is 100% a class issue you dumb motherfucker. So you gonna shut up now, or are you gonna keep loving that chicken? (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Fulchrum posted:So you gonna shut up now, or are you gonna keep loving that chicken? That doesn't say what you said it does You are having a different conversation than everyone else
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Capitalistic ethnonationalist "anarchism" is not anarchism at all and repulses real anarchists, a good cartoon.
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loquacius posted:That doesn't say what you said it does And you are having one where you are inventing me saying that the rich have been a net positive on society rather than saying Republicans, and all Republicans, have been a cancer on society.
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Avenging_Mikon posted:My mother thought transvestites were transsexual until I explained it to her. Nobody uses "transexual" outside of porno or insulting trans people anymore either. "Transgender" is the preferred term as "transexual" can imply it's a sexual orientation (like heterosexual, bisexual, homosexual, pansexual, etc) and also has some weird porn contexts attached to it unfortunately.
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Fulchrum posted:So you gonna shut up now, or are you gonna keep loving that chicken? Notice how I didn't say that racism doesn't exist and instead said that racism is a subset of class conflict
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Fulchrum posted:And you are having one where you are inventing me saying that the rich have been a net positive on society rather than saying Republicans, and all Republicans, have been a cancer on society. this is the part where I quote a post from you and then condescend at you with an implicit smug-face about it Fulchrum posted:You mean with, oh, to pick an example at random, the Buffet rule? Probably named ironically, since as a rich person Warren Buffet must have railed against the law. #NotAllRichPeople 
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Improbable Lobster posted:Notice how I didn't say that racism doesn't exist and instead said that racism is a subset of class conflict Notice how you then admitted that racism transcended class then quietly tried to ignore that? loquacius posted:this is the part where I quote a post from you and then condescend at you with an implicit smug-face about it I like how attacking someone not based off of if they actually want to make rich people pay their fair share, but based solely off of how much money they have, looks like a winning strategy to you. Also, even now you've shifted your strawman from me arguing all rich people are good, to arguing that one rich person wants to increase his own taxes. Show me the post where I say that rich people have a net positive, not that some rich people aren't pure evil. You slimy motherfucker. Fulchrum fucked around with this message at 19:27 on Mar 14, 2017 |
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Fulchrum posted:I like how attacking someone not based off of if they actually want to make rich people pay their fair share, but based off of how much money they have, looks like a winning strategy to you. I want to "attack" rich people by using the government to make them finance social services. The fact that they largely view this as an attack and resist as hard as they can says all I need to say on the subject. (well, that and the fact that you're going to this much effort to defend the poor defenseless rich people from mean nasty Internet posts) e: Fulchrum posted:Also, even now you've shifted your strawman from me arguing all rich people are good, to arguing that one rich person wants to increase his own taxes. Show me the post where I say that rich people have a net positive, not that some rich people aren't pure evil. You slimy motherfucker. I mean, buddy, you have written more than a page's worth of posts by yourself defending rich people for some reason. I just put two and two together.
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Fulchrum posted:Notice how you then admitted that racism transcended class then quietly tried to ignore that? I literally said that class transcends race, are you actually capable of reading sentences?
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loquacius posted:I want to "attack" rich people by using the government to make them finance social services. quote:The fact that they largely view this as an attack and resist as hard as they can says all I need to say on the subject.
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Improbable Lobster posted:Black people were in the "wrong" class by having wealth, therefore whites retaliated to put them "back in their place" Improbable Lobster posted:I literally said that class transcends race, are you actually capable of reading sentences? You really do wipe these things from your mind, don't you? By your own argument, if it's possible for a certain race to be in the wrong class, then race transcends class, literally the opposite of your argument.
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Fulchrum posted:As does Warren Buffet you dumb gently caress. Good for him. I still want to make him fund social services. The fact that he publicly agrees with me is immaterial. Most rich people do not. quote:No, REPUBLICANS see that as an attack and resist as hard as they can. You are not describing what rich people do! You are not even describing what solely rich Republicans do! You are describing the actions of every single Republican, from poorest klansman all the way up to the Koch brothers! That is my goddamn point! You refuse to acknowledge the actual enemy based solely off Dogma, and refuse to ever shift!  Republicans are The Party Of Rich People. Everyone agrees on this. They advance the interests of rich people (by which I mean making sure they don't have to fund social services). They con rubes into voting for them by a number of varying means (one of which, yes, is encouraging, exploiting, and pandering to racism). The rich are still the driving force behind their ideology. No one is defending the Klan by pointing this out.
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cis autodrag posted:Nobody uses "transexual" outside of porno or insulting trans people anymore either. "Transgender" is the preferred term as "transexual" can imply it's a sexual orientation (like heterosexual, bisexual, homosexual, pansexual, etc) and also has some weird porn contexts attached to it unfortunately. They are usually not particularly great people.
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They don't con poo poo. The rednecks know what they are doing, and that it will gently caress over someone darker, and they are giddy about it. Republicans are not just the party of rich people. They are the party of every single one of the worst desires and impulses and most hateful responses a human can have. If you got rid of the rich, you'd still have these racists voting in fuckers like Steve King espousing white supremacy. That is the crux of the argument, it's not just the rich who are the problem here, every faction of the Republicans is a threat to civilised society, and anyone pretending otherwise are just idiots. Fulchrum fucked around with this message at 19:47 on Mar 14, 2017 |
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Fulchrum posted:They are not just the party of rich people. They are the party of every single one of the worst desires and impulses and most hateful responses a human can have. If you got rid of the rich, you'd still have these racists voting in fuckers like Steve King espousing white supremacy. That is the point, it's not just the rich who are the problem here, every faction of the Republicans is a threat to civilised society, and anyone pretending otherwise are just idiots. They are the party of the rich encouraging, exploiting, and pandering to every single one of the worst desires and impulses and most hateful responses a human can have. If it weren't for the rich providing their propaganda, planning, infrastructure, and networks in pursuit of the goal of not having to fund social services, they would fracture into a million special-interest groups like the Left tends to do. e: Fulchrum posted:They don't con poo poo 
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loquacius posted:They are the party of the rich encouraging, exploiting, and pandering to every single one of the worst desires and impulses and most hateful responses a human can have. If it weren't for the rich providing their propaganda, planning, infrastructure, and networks in pursuit of the goal of not having to fund social services, they would fracture into a million special-interest groups like the Left tends to do. The south was a racist hellhole long before the rich put any of those things in place. The rich rely on the white supremacists way more than the white supremacists rely on the rich. Don't believe me? Five words - Jeb Bush versus Donald Trump.
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HAT FETISH posted:There is a subset of trans women – generally white, middle class, and above a certain age – who are insistent on specifically identifying themselves as transsexual. Common ideological traits include rejecting the existence of gender identity, accusing gay trans women of being sexual deviants, and never acknowledging that trans men are even a thing. How can you both reject gender identity but also believe your own trans status is legitimate? Or am I just asking to hear a bunch of bad 2nd-wave feminist stuff?
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Fulchrum posted:The south was a racist hellhole long before the rich put any of those things in place. The rich rely on the white supremacists way more than the white supremacists rely on the rich. Don't believe me? Five words - Jeb Bush versus Donald Trump. Yeah, the rich sure did take a big loss on that one
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loquacius posted:Yeah, the rich sure did take a big loss on that one That it's a situation that worked out for them does not make it a situation they wanted. You are seriously going to try and claim that the rich didn't fund Jeb Bush and try to take down Trump?
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Fulchrum posted:That it's a situation that worked out for them does not make it a situation they wanted. You are seriously going to try and claim that the rich didn't fund Jeb Bush and try to take down Trump? Jeb was out of the race long before anyone took Trump seriously you loving moron. His whole schtick- which was a con, btw- was that his campaign was self-funded so he wasn't beholden to Big Business and lobbyists.
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