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Poll: Who Should Be Leader of HM Most Loyal Opposition?
This poll is closed.
Jeremy Corbyn 95 18.63%
Dennis Skinner 53 10.39%
Angus Robertson 20 3.92%
Tim Farron 9 1.76%
Paul Ukips 7 1.37%
Robot Lenin 105 20.59%
Tony Blair 28 5.49%
Pissflaps 193 37.84%
Total: 510 votes
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OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

It's an activist that uses communications program Slack to organize, obviously.

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kustomkarkommando
Oct 22, 2012

STV best tv

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames

mehall posted:

Surely you could guess from the obvious portmanteau.

quote:

Slacktivism (sometimes slactivism or slackervism) is a portmanteau of the words slacker and activism. The word is usually considered a pejorative term that describes "feel-good" measures, in support of an issue or social cause, that have little physical or practical effect, other than to make the person doing it feel satisfied that they have contributed.

I don't recognise myself in that definition because I seek nor feel any satisfaction from contributing: I'm just a voter with opinions, not an activist of any sort.

mehall
Aug 27, 2010


Pissflaps posted:

I don't recognise myself in that definition because I seek nor feel any satisfaction from contributing: I'm just a voter with opinions, not an activist of any sort.

You're telling me you don't feel better when you're posting your opinions on here and twitter and letting people know how you feel?

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames

mehall posted:

You're telling me you don't feel better when you're posting your opinions on here and twitter and letting people know how you feel?

It seems the point is to gain satisfaction from feeling like you're part of a movement without actually doing much - Like shouting about making a small charitable donation.

Though I do gain satisfaction from successfully arguing a point in good faith, with sources where necessary. Not the same thing though, imo.

WeAreTheRomans
Feb 23, 2010

by R. Guyovich

Pissflaps posted:

Though I do gain satisfaction from successfully arguing a point in good faith, with sources where necessary. Not the same thing though, imo.

Pissflaps posted:

arguing a point in good faith


Pissflaps posted:

good faith

LemonDrizzle
Mar 28, 2012

neoliberal shithead
https://twitter.com/MrHarryCole/status/841704762919780352

itshappening.gif ?

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Pissflaps posted:

I do gain satisfaction from successfully arguing a point in good faith

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrIPxlFzDi0

JFairfax
Oct 23, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

Pissflaps posted:

It seems the point is to gain satisfaction from feeling like you're part of a movement without actually doing much - Like shouting about making a small charitable donation.

Though I do gain satisfaction from successfully arguing a point in good faith, with sources where necessary. Not the same thing though, imo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lu3VTngm1F0

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

spectralent posted:

This is a pattern.

My nan lives in an all-white suburb in the midlands, and whenever she goes into town loudly goes "It's like you've gone to some other country!" when there's a street with like one muslim family visibly existing.

Conversely, gran goes to church with a load of arab christians and has started organising clothes drives for refugees and knits sweaters for refugee children.

My Cornish* aunt visited us a few years ago, the first words out of her mouth on arriving were "Is that Muslim supposed to be there?" in an urgent, under-the-breath tone, indicating one of my neighbours who was standing in his garden smoking a fag. She's calmed down a little bit since then but still, when she visits London, refuses to take the tube or a minicab "Just in case...". She's going to be hosed when she realises that there are non-white black cab drivers.

* She voted Leave because "The EU needs us more than we need them" and "They only invent these regulations to keep us down at their level". Her husband owns a company that sells agricultural supplies, and her son-in-law is an accountant who specialises in claiming and handling subsidies. The next few years are not going to be pleasant for her and I really try not to gloat. In her defence she was actually really pissed off with the UKIP refugees poster and thinks we should be taking in a lot more refugees, and had a right go about Cameron eulogising Nicholas Winton the day after fighting to reduce the amount of Syrian refugees we would take.

goddamnedtwisto fucked around with this message at 19:53 on Mar 14, 2017

Jippa
Feb 13, 2009

Who is this guy? He is the ugliest looking fucker I have ever seen but people always post gifs of his weird rubber face.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

It's Vince McMahon, the runner of World Wrestling Entertainment (formerly World Wrestling Federation until they lost a cage match to an angry panda). Also the reason Donald Trump is technically a wrestling hall of famer.

JFairfax
Oct 23, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

Jippa posted:

Who is this guy? He is the ugliest looking fucker I have ever seen but people always post gifs of his weird rubber face.



donald trump is his barber

JFairfax
Oct 23, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
also his wife now works for trump heading up the small business department in the US govt lol

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

JFairfax posted:



donald trump is his barber

Trump's pulling that face because of the black man's proximity.

HJB
Feb 16, 2011

:swoon: I can't get enough of are Dan :swoon:

goddamnedtwisto posted:

"Is that Muslim supposed to be there?"

Was she expecting a couple of kids to knock on the door asking if they can have their Muslim back?

ShaneMacGowansTeeth
May 22, 2007



I think this is it... I think this is how it ends

MikeCrotch posted:

Also how many of the thread actually live in London? Some of the staunchest Remainers here are from the north of England, not to mention scotland

Live in Portsmouth, voted Remain in one of only three wards in the city which voted Remain

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

HJB posted:

Was she expecting a couple of kids to knock on the door asking if they can have their Muslim back?

How did I get [s] confused with [i]?

Anyway, as far as I can tell, she thought he was either breaking into the house or, more likely given the horrified way she reacted when she found out her daughter and granddaughter had gone three stops on the tube, she thought any random Muslim was likely to explode at a moment's notice, like suicide bombing was a very specialised form of spontaneous combustion.

LemonDrizzle
Mar 28, 2012

neoliberal shithead
the election expenses investigations are making things a little backstabby at conservative hq:

https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/841712936062132224

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

ThomasPaine posted:

Yes I'm not saying garbage pizzas are bad necessarily. Dominoes probably takes it as far as they go though. I used to like Papa Johns since his face is on everything and I now know he is the absolute worst bourgie poo poo I lost my taste for them.

e: by which I mean he is bad even by the standards of bourgie shits


I don't trust anyone who uses something other than a photo of themselves as a social media avatar. At least it's not just a flag so that's something.

I'm the opposite. I don't know why you want me to see your grubby unpresentable face but you're certainly not seeing mine. Yes you look ridiculous and any other conclusion is due to the Dunning-Kruger effect. Humanity is absurd. Social media is absurd.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

LemonDrizzle posted:

the election expenses investigations are making things a little backstabby at conservative hq:

https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/841712936062132224

and thus leads the long chain of hilarious events that ends up with Tim Farron becoming prime minister

the #libdemfightback succeeds!

Skinty McEdger
Mar 9, 2008

I have NEVER received the respect I deserve as the leader and founder of The Masterflock, the internet's largest and oldest Christopher Masterpiece fan group in all of history, and I DEMAND that changes. From now on, you will respect Skinty McEdger!


My MP. So proud.

Farage has already sad he's consdering running again in the seat, and that he feels the only reason he lost now was due to the Tories electoral expenses.

Skinty McEdger
Mar 9, 2008

I have NEVER received the respect I deserve as the leader and founder of The Masterflock, the internet's largest and oldest Christopher Masterpiece fan group in all of history, and I DEMAND that changes. From now on, you will respect Skinty McEdger!

Reminder the man reason that Farage lost in Thanet south was that he never showed up to any of the campaign events that were scheduled for him and when he did he was woefully uninformed about local issues and turned his base against him, to the point the UKIP county counsellors started to actively distance themselves from him. Things came to a head when he didn't show up to one event claiming to be ill, and then appeared that same night on the BBC.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

JFairfax posted:



donald trump is his barber

And Ainsley Harriott is far more buff than he looks under those loud shirts.

EmptyVessel
Oct 30, 2012
Just had an email from Tim Farron which included this:

LD marketing message posted:

we are the only party united in fighting to keep Britain in both the UK and the EU.
I'd really like to know more about the possibility of Britain leaving the UK and when I can vote for it.

Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry

EmptyVessel posted:

Just had an email from Tim Farron which included this:

I'd really like to know more about the possibility of Britain leaving the UK and when I can vote for it.

It's part of the secret plan we London Elites(tm) have been machinating all along - the UK will be reduced to only London, and will remain in the EU, a veritable Fortress of Finance, while the rest just devolves into a wasteland of roving road gangs. I admit I'll be sad to see Cornish clotted cream go, but such are the sacrifices we have to make.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

EmptyVessel posted:

I'd really like to know more about the possibility of Britain leaving the UK and when I can vote for it.
That's the one that Sinn Fein want a vote on.

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

EULER'VE TO SEE IT VENN SOMEONE CALLS IT THE WRONG THING AND PROVOKES MY WRATH

Guavanaut posted:

That's the one that Sinn Fein want a vote on.

Well, they want Britain to be the UK.

EmptyVessel
Oct 30, 2012

Pochoclo posted:

It's part of the secret plan we London Elites(tm) have been machinating all along - the UK will be reduced to only London, and will remain in the EU, a veritable Fortress of Finance, while the rest just devolves into a wasteland of roving road gangs. I admit I'll be sad to see Cornish clotted cream go, but such are the sacrifices we have to make.

So we get to wall London off and reintroduce 80s style travellers only more Archaos and Mutoid Waste Co. and less Rainbow Camp? :getin:
Pretty sure that clotted cream doesn't need any input from that there London so it's only you Elites that'll miss out.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Lord of the Llamas posted:

Well, they want Britain to be the UK.
The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Some Tiny Tax Havens

ookiimarukochan
Apr 4, 2011

MikeCrotch posted:

Isn't saying you like Sabra the best like saying your favourite Italian food restaurant is Pizza Hut

Feedmegin is almost offensively white - he's said that middle eastern food is better in America and that the indian food there is just as good as it is in the UK, so his opinions are suspect as gently caress to say the least.

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

TinTower posted:

Green Party Conference actually passed a pretty decent trans policy last year, which passed several hundred to eight.

So now those people (who include Bea Campbell) are now called the Hateful Eight.

That kinda makes them sound like a gang in a Tarantino film though

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

HJB posted:

Was she expecting a couple of kids to knock on the door asking if they can have their Muslim back?

Probably. She'd have no problem kicking a Muslim into someone else's garden.

Paxman
Feb 7, 2010

A "Buy British" button could allow online shoppers to filter out filthy foreign groceries as we take back control from European cucumbers.

Daily Torygraph posted:

Online supermarket shoppers could soon be offered a "Buy British" button to filter out foreign produce as part of post-Brexit plans, MPs have said.

Under the scheme online grocery retailers would update their websites to let shoppers click to restrict the items they can see to UK-grown food only.

At present it can be difficult for online shoppers to find out where their food has been grown as they are relying on small on-screen images of items.

By contrast buying British food is far easier for in-store shoppers, who can look out for distinctive Union Jack logos on packs.

Yesterday in a Westminster debate the Environment Minister, George Eustice, revealed he has met with senior figures at the National Farmers' Union to discuss the possible labeling revolution.

The idea has been backed by MPs, who are now urging the Government to introduce a policy to encourage supermarkets to launch Buy British buttons, which they argue could provide a welcome boost for UK farmers once the UK leaves the EU.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/14/buy-british-button-could-let-online-shoppers-filter-foreign

About time in my view

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer
EEEEEUGH.

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

Protectionism will have the trade deals flooding right in

JFairfax
Oct 23, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

Paxman posted:

A "Buy British" button could allow online shoppers to filter out filthy foreign groceries as we take back control from European cucumbers.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/14/buy-british-button-could-let-online-shoppers-filter-foreign

About time in my view

lol loving hell

consumers will be happy when they see gently caress all is grown or made in the UK

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.
jfc did anyone post this already?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/politics/nicola-sturgeon-liar-traitor-head/?WT.mc_id=tmg_share_tw

Torygraph posted:


Nicola Sturgeon is a liar and a traitor - off with her head!
ALLISON PEARSON

I used to have a lot of time for Nicola Sturgeon. You might disagree with her about the Union, but she was undeniably a brilliant politician. The love-child of a Bay City Roller and a Shetland Pony, what Sturgeon lacked in charm she made up for in cunning and strength. While Labour at Westminster made itself progressively more unelectable, Sturgeon’s victorious SNP rolled out Socialism in Scotland, and – how clever is this? - got evil Tory taxpayers down South to pay for it.

It takes some nerve to offer free university education to Scots and to young people from every single country in the EU, except England, Wales and Northern Ireland. Particularly when such largesse is only possible because Scots get £1600 more per head than the English. “I know, we’ll discriminate against you Sassenachs using your own money!”

As I say, it was hard not to have a sneaking admiration for the canny Sturgeon.

Well, not any more. At a critical moment in our history, one of the biggest, most anxious times many of us will live through, this self-serving little bism has handed EU negotiators a stick to beat us with. By calling for a second referendum on Scottish independence when she knows there is maximum mischief to be made, Nicola Sturgeon proves herself to be not just dishonest, but a traitor to boot.

“We’ve made very clear our belief that constitutional referenda are once-in-a-generation events,” said Nicola, and she meant it most sincerely, until she lost that first referendum. Now, after the vote for Brexit, the SNP leader’s “belief” has conveniently altered. And why not? I mean, total loss of personal integrity is a small price to pay for shafting the United Kingdom, isn’t it, hen?

Instead of putting her padded shoulder to the wheel to help Theresa May get the best possible deal, the self-styled queen of Scots goes behind the UK’s back and flirts with the Continent. In the forthcoming negotiations, imagine the way that EU leaders could parade Scotland’s First Minister at a press conference, like a prize Highland Moo, just to stick it to the Brits.

It’s shameful, it really is. But Nicola couldn’t give a tartan duck about betraying sixty million of her fellow citizens if it advances the dream of three million people who want an independent Scotland. I’m struggling to think of a more poisonous display of political opportunism.

This is how much Sturgeon hates us. The woman seemingly cares nothing for the United Kingdom of which Scotland is such a precious and integral part. She owes the UK no loyalty. In fact, it gives her sly pleasure to undermine it at every turn. Look at the way she stepped in front of the cameras at Holyrood on Monday and delivered her “I wish we weren’t in this position” lament. Pained regret? Give me a break. Nicola Sturgeon puts the truck into truculent. The woman has an ego the size of a HGV.

Sturgeon’s contempt for the English is a given. What is truly shocking is the way she is prepared to play fast and loose with the future of her beloved Scots. (The same Scots who, only two and a half years ago, voted to remain in the UK.) If Nicola thinks that Britain leaving the Single Market counts as “going off a cliff” just wait until she tries to get an independent Scotland into the EU.

As one economist said tersely on Twitter, “Scotland is skint.” With oil prices tanking and a budget deficit of £15billion per annum, the country doesn’t even meet the entry criteria for EU membership. And if Sturgeon thinks that Brussels will fill the gaping hole in Scottish finances once London stops sending the cheques can I suggest she spends a long weekend in Athens? Greece is a good example of what happens to a debt-ridden small country once it’s strapped into the Euro straitjacket.

Make no mistake. The rest of the UK, grown aweary of Sturgeon’s nationalist tantrums, is not going to let Scotland keep the pound. They will have to take their chances with the Currency of Doom.

If you have achieved your lifelong goal and made Scotland an independent sovereign nation, why would you instantly sign that sovereignty away to Brussels? Why would you insist on holding a referendum concurrently with Brexit negotiations, causing a huge and costly distraction, when you could bide your time, wait until after the 2020 general election and see how things pan out?

Because it’s all about her, that’s why. This is about Nicola’s survival, Nicola’s career, making Nicola feel important, Nicola strutting about like a puffed-up little pouter pigeon in her scarlet peplum cooing, Me, Me, Me!

Another chronic attention-seeker, who has used Brexit for her own ends, is Gina Miller. On Monday’s PM programme, Mrs Miller told an astonished Eddie Mair that MPs should have been allowed to “vote in secret” on the Brexit bill. The same Gina Miller who lectured us all on the need for “transparency” seriously believes our elected representatives should hide their decisions. Consistency is for the little people, darling.

What stories do you suppose the Sanctimony Sisters, Sturgeon and Miller, tell themselves about their motives?

I prefer Her Majesty the Queen who, yesterday morning, was believed to be giving Brexit the Royal Assent, without further ado, over toast and Buckingham Palace Seville Orange Marmalade. As the Queen is believed to have said at a luncheon: “I don’t see why we can’t just get out. What’s the problem?”

You tell ‘em, Ma’am!

I reckon it’s already clear that Nicola Sturgeon has made a historic miscalculation. A third of SNP voters supported Brexit and plenty more decent Scots will feel that now is not the time to toss a caber in the works. They will wish Theresa May well as she goes forth to do battle for Scotland and England and Wales and Northern Island, each and every special part of this island nation.

The Prime Minister, with our full permission, should tell Nicola Sturgeon exactly what she can do with her second referendum, until such time as we are in calmer waters.

Meanwhile, if Nicola wants to go behind the back of the UK and flirt with the Continent, then be our guest.

Maybe just bear in mind, hen, what happened the last time a queen of Scots did the dirty on us. She lost her head while England and Queen Elizabeth emerged triumphant.


I just bolded all the 'Scottish stereotype' phrases out oh so witty journalist thinks she's so witty by using

Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry
Do correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think I've seen British tangerines, or bananas, or basically any kind of fruit that isn't strawberries/blueberries/raspberries/apples/pears.
I do buy mostly British things outside of that (and cheese, of course), though. Definitely 100% British meat/fish, and beer.

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LemonDrizzle
Mar 28, 2012

neoliberal shithead
polls for the poll throne

https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/841778219338612736

https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/841779798133334016

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