|
The Cheshire Cat posted:John himself has said that nobody has been able to adequately explain it to him so it's entirely possible that nobody knows. I would imagine product placement probably helps a lot. At least for shows that take place in the modern day. Kind of hard to shove a smartphone into Game of Thrones.
|
#
?
Mar 13, 2017 21:25
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 15, 2024 02:46 |
|
|
notthegoatseguy posted:I would imagine product placement probably helps a lot. At least for shows that take place in the modern day. Kind of hard to shove a smartphone into Game of Thrones. Samsung: When it isn't on fire and trying to murder you, it is spying on you. For paranoid people in your life that you want to validate.
|
|
#
?
Mar 13, 2017 21:32
|
|
|
Every news/"news" show I watch goes up on Youtube right after it airs and nobody ever takes them down. I think the general idea is that since it's "news" they don't lose much by people watching it a few days/weeks later because by then some new apocashitstorm has happened.
|
|
#
?
Mar 13, 2017 21:38
|
|
|
LWT just helps with HBO mindshare. HBO operates under the same model as Netflix. LWT just helps the general HBO brand even if they are essentially giving away the content for free.
|
|
#
?
Mar 13, 2017 21:50
|
|
|
These days I am sure HBO is basing its decisions primarily on its on-demand/online viewership, rather than cable viewers, since normal TV is now a vast wasteland.
|
|
#
?
Mar 13, 2017 21:55
|
|
|
Azhais posted:Everyone knows it was the Germans
|
|
#
?
Mar 13, 2017 21:59
|
|
|
Grinning Goblin posted:Samsung: When it isn't on fire and trying to murder you, it is spying on you. For paranoid people in your life that you want to validate. What if the exploding phones and washing machines were supposed to be shipments headed out to ISIS leaders and Iraqi dissidents, and they just mixed up their FedEx tags?
|
|
#
?
Mar 13, 2017 22:02
|
|
|
Double-post
|
|
#
?
Mar 13, 2017 22:16
|
|
|
bull3964 posted:LWT just helps with HBO mindshare. Yeah, I imagine they probably see LWT more as advertising rather than premium content. It's not quite popular enough that people are going to subscribe to HBO specifically to watch it, but because it's a topical show it spreads very quickly via word of mouth and various "John Oliver DESTROYS (subject) on Last Week Tonight" clickbait articles.
|
|
#
?
Mar 13, 2017 22:21
|
|
|
I dunno, Sam Bee kills him on viral clip-shares according to my social media feed.
|
|
#
?
Mar 13, 2017 23:26
|
|
|
coyo7e posted:I dunno, Sam Bee kills him on viral clip-shares according to my social media feed. Anecdotally, I don't think I've ever seen a Samantha Bee clip and my 1,000+ friends are all super duper liberal.
|
|
#
?
Mar 13, 2017 23:32
|
|
|
IRQ posted:Well their problem is that they put themselves in this mess, because "who would have thought healthcare would be complicated?!" Their real handicap is that they're using budgetary reconciliation so they're really limited in what they can do. If they were to make an actual big boy law there would be way more wiggle room to hide the horrible poo poo under nice sounding things that let you lie with a plausibly straight face. Of course then it has to be more than 60 pages, requires an actual expenditure of time, and is now handicapped by their gently caress up in trying to use budgetary tricks to kill the white whale named ACA. Using the method they are, there's really not much they can do other than tax credits and middle fingers to grandma. There's a huge problem in that nobody is going to be happy if they can't get healthcare. That's definitely an issue that's going to be hard to overcome, but it's probably doable if they have an occupant in the Bully Pulpit who isn't a total loving idiot who goes out of their way to piss off 50-60% of the country daily.
|
|
#
?
Mar 13, 2017 23:48
|
|
|
The Cheshire Cat posted:For some reason the latest season videos on YouTube are not visible outside the US now, which wasn't the case for previous seasons. They still post the main segment on Facebook and that's not region limited though
|
|
#
?
Mar 14, 2017 00:00
|
|
|
Bust Rodd posted:Anecdotally, I don't think I've ever seen a Samantha Bee clip and my 1,000+ friends are all super duper liberal.
|
|
#
?
Mar 14, 2017 00:14
|
|
|
webmeister posted:They still post the main segment on Facebook and that's not region limited though Yeah I don't really get it. The Putin video is the only one of the new season that works for me on YouTube without a proxy. Why that one works and the others don't? Who knows. And all the older season videos also still work fine.
|
|
#
?
Mar 14, 2017 00:29
|
|
|
HBO Now is finally a thing, and lots of people who hate cable are perfectly happy to pay for HBO. It's the brand and the library. I have no idea what the movie library looks like, but between Sopranos, Sex and the City, and The Wire, I see a ton of people happy to drop  to spend a month on any one of those shows and, say, wondering what's up with this Game of Thrones Westworld Veep business.I love that they do have Maher and Oliver, and saying that they carry the weak original content just says everything about the rest of the slate (but gently caress Girls anyway).
|
|
#
?
Mar 14, 2017 00:30
|
|
|
Propaganda Machine posted:HBO Now is finally a thing, and lots of people who hate cable are perfectly happy to pay for HBO. It's the brand and the library. I have no idea what the movie library looks like, but between Sopranos, Sex and the City, and The Wire, I see a ton of people happy to drop Girls is legit good for Ray alone.
|
|
#
?
Mar 14, 2017 00:34
|
|
|
I see Ray around in my neighborhood all the time. I don't need to suffer Lena Dunham's piss poor writing for it, but I accept both your point and my personal privilege.
|
|
#
?
Mar 14, 2017 01:32
|
|
|
Propaganda Machine posted:HBO Now is finally a thing, and lots of people who hate cable are perfectly happy to pay for HBO. It's the brand and the library. I have no idea what the movie library looks like, but between Sopranos, Sex and the City, and The Wire, I see a ton of people happy to drop
|
|
#
?
Mar 14, 2017 01:38
|
|
|
The Cheshire Cat posted:John himself has said that nobody has been able to adequately explain it to him so it's entirely possible that nobody knows. This can't be good for stress.
|
|
#
?
Mar 14, 2017 02:15
|
|
|
Propaganda Machine posted:HBO Now is finally a thing, and lots of people who hate cable are perfectly happy to pay for HBO. It's the brand and the library. I have no idea what the movie library looks like, but between Sopranos, Sex and the City, and The Wire, I see a ton of people happy to drop Yeah, I do HBO Now and its great. The catalogue isn't as large as Netflix, but its overall quality is great. Tons of movies and all the HBO shows past and present. The other thing thats cool is the turn around time. LWT is usually up on HBO Now around midnight (or before, I usually dont check until then and its up).
|
|
#
?
Mar 14, 2017 02:52
|
|
|
swickles posted:Yeah, I do HBO Now and its great. The catalogue isn't as large as Netflix, but its overall quality is great. Tons of movies and all the HBO shows past and present. The other thing thats cool is the turn around time. LWT is usually up on HBO Now around midnight (or before, I usually dont check until then and its up). HBO stuff goes up on Now/Go the second it starts airing on the cable channel.
|
|
#
?
Mar 14, 2017 03:18
|
|
|
muscles like this! posted:HBO stuff goes up on Now/Go the second it starts airing on the cable channel. That is the case with every show except for LWT, presumably because they go from final cut to air much faster than any other HBO show. Also Real Time with Bill Maher, that one's live so doubly so
|
|
#
?
Mar 14, 2017 03:22
|
|
|
Mr. Fowl posted:This can't be good for stress.
|
|
#
?
Mar 14, 2017 06:19
|
|
|
That NBC news segment about the KILLER WASHING MACHINE gave me ADD. What's with the loving crash-zooms, sudden cuts to black and white and camera shakes and tilts in the goddamn news?
|
|
#
?
Mar 14, 2017 10:44
|
|
|
The Cheshire Cat posted:
Huh? Here in Finland I can see them just fine at least. Unless the US has the entire show on Youtube, instead of just roughly twenty minute clips.
|
|
#
?
Mar 14, 2017 11:42
|
|
|
Azhais posted:Everyone knows it was the Germans
|
|
#
?
Mar 14, 2017 12:57
|
|
|
timp posted:That is the case with every show except for LWT, presumably because they go from final cut to air much faster than any other HBO show. Yeah, thats why I said most of the time. There have been a few times where it wasnt up until after 1.
|
|
#
?
Mar 14, 2017 13:06
|
|
|
Stare-Out posted:That NBC news segment about the KILLER WASHING MACHINE gave me ADD. What's with the loving crash-zooms, sudden cuts to black and white and camera shakes and tilts in the goddamn news? Trying like hell to make a boring story something you'll keep watching?
|
|
#
?
Mar 14, 2017 13:56
|
|
|
Stare-Out posted:That NBC news segment about the KILLER WASHING MACHINE gave me ADD. What's with the loving crash-zooms, sudden cuts to black and white and camera shakes and tilts in the goddamn news? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0-pZtVsCcY
|
|
#
?
Mar 14, 2017 17:52
|
|
|
You know how shows or movies do that joke where it's like "Welcome to the 11 o'clock news. Aliens have invaded and there's one sure way to stop them. Stay tuned to learn how... after this break" That's actually not even an exaggeration, that's how TV news used to work. And everything was framed like a clickbait article. "Want to know what one thing you're probably sitting near right now could blow up your home at any minute? Find out after this segment on puppies"
|
|
#
?
Mar 14, 2017 18:56
|
|
|
precision posted:You know how shows or movies do that joke where it's like "Welcome to the 11 o'clock news. Aliens have invaded and there's one sure way to stop them. Stay tuned to learn how... after this break" This actually makes me think of when I first learned of this tactic. There was an NES game called.Rampage where play either a King Kong or Godzilla type monster and have to destroy a city. In between each level, they had a little media cutscene (if you could call it that, this was NES afterall) and they would say things like "monster destroys city! Film at 11." I had no idea what film at 11 meant so I asked my mom and she said thats how the news got people to watch, by promising a video or information that sounds more important than it is. So yeah, news has always employed these tactics for as long as it has existed.
|
|
#
?
Mar 14, 2017 19:31
|
|
|
precision posted:
USED to?
|
|
#
?
Mar 14, 2017 19:45
|
|
|
bull3964 posted:USED to? The key word is now "work"
|
|
#
?
Mar 14, 2017 19:48
|
|
|
swickles posted:I had no idea what film at 11 meant so I asked my mom and she said thats how the news got people to watch, by promising a video or information that sounds more important than it is. So yeah, news has always employed these tactics for as long as it has existed. Back when TV shows were either broadcast live or recorded on 16mm film it actually took them a while to develop and edit any footage they shot out on location so if a newsworthy event happened in the afternoon they genuinely wouldn't have the footage ready for broadcast when the evening news aired and would only be able to screen it in the late news, so the "film at 11" thing started out due to genuine limitations of their broadcast technology. It was later when they moved to video technology and could broadcast anything pretty much immediately from anywhere that the "film at 11" hook was turned into a marketing ploy.
|
|
#
?
Mar 14, 2017 19:52
|
|
|
oldskool posted:The key word is now "work" I'm sure plenty of older people still clutch at their pearls and raptly wait to see what common household item is going to murder them in their sleep. I'm sure it's way less now that most people are either so tuned out they get their news from facetweets snapwalls and the others have their 24 hour cable news echo chamber of choice. e: and with live tv watchers being an endangered species.
|
|
#
?
Mar 14, 2017 19:53
|
|
|
With the advent of cable news, I think it's more like people are watching to find out which politician hates America today.
|
|
#
?
Mar 14, 2017 20:07
|
|
|
pwn posted:To be fair to the rest of the NBC News division, that was a segment from the Today Show, and to be fair to the entire rest of the Today Show, that was a regular feature by Jeff Rossen, "Rossen Reports," a guy who obnoxiously files a consumer alert report every week by going and doing whatever the thing is (escaping from a flooding car for example.) It's a good enough idea but, uh, the presentation leaves something to be desired, as you can see. my favorite fluff piece: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L91_K-s4pMM Snowglobe of Doom posted:Back when TV shows were either broadcast live or recorded on 16mm film it actually took them a while to develop and edit any footage they shot out on location so if a newsworthy event happened in the afternoon they genuinely wouldn't have the footage ready for broadcast when the evening news aired and would only be able to screen it in the late news, so the "film at 11" thing started out due to genuine limitations of their broadcast technology. It was later when they moved to video technology and could broadcast anything pretty much immediately from anywhere that the "film at 11" hook was turned into a marketing ploy. coyo7e fucked around with this message at 21:25 on Mar 14, 2017 |
|
#
?
Mar 14, 2017 21:21
|
|
|
swickles posted:This actually makes me think of when I first learned of this tactic. There was an NES game called.Rampage where play either a King Kong or Godzilla type monster and have to destroy a city. In between each level, they had a little media cutscene (if you could call it that, this was NES afterall) and they would say things like "monster destroys city! Film at 11." I had no idea what film at 11 meant so I asked my mom and she said thats how the news got people to watch, by promising a video or information that sounds more important than it is. So yeah, news has always employed these tactics for as long as it has existed. There was also Rampage World Tour which I think might've been on Neo Geo or something, it had slick graphics but wasn't as fun a game as the original imho. Also they couldn't put as many windows in the buildings on the NES version so the combat was a little simpler. Arcade  NES 
coyo7e fucked around with this message at 21:34 on Mar 14, 2017 |
|
#
?
Mar 14, 2017 21:31
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 15, 2024 02:46 |
|
|
coyo7e posted:Basically, Ric Romero reports. It's pretty common I guess in local TV news, when people get tired of pet of the week and feel-good pieces about firefighters visiting cancer kids or some other similar bullshit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdE-WzSIGoQ
|
|
#
?
Mar 14, 2017 23:28
|
|