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spankmeister posted:You still needed a modded console to play HK silvers, they didn't include the copy protection region. depended on the supplier, many included the copy protection region. ones that didnt tended to be sold cheaper.
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anthonypants posted:okay but you think the FTC should itself certify products for sale in the us. do you believe that this is an attainable goal seems more like they're saying the FTC should require certification of some kind that's aimed at security rather than physical safety
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fishmech posted:depended on the supplier, many included the copy protection region. ones that didnt tended to be sold cheaper. [citation needed]
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Mar 14, 2017 18:34
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Cold on a Cob posted:[citation needed] citation: your local shady import shop, 2001 or so
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infernal machines posted:3DO will also read burned discs without modification, although it's very selective about what type of burned discs it will reliably read. Yeah, years after I'd shelved my (unmodded Panasonic) 3DO I was able to play some games on it that I could never get my hands on, "in the day", by burning them myself. Didn't know it could be picky, may have just been lucky.
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fishmech posted:citation: your local shady import shop, 2001 or so they would often say they would work with unmodded consoles but that was bullshit
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Mar 14, 2017 18:37
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ate all the Oreos posted:seems more like they're saying the FTC should require certification of some kind that's aimed at security rather than physical safety it's this, i was responding to subjunctive about how this could hypothetically fall under the FTC's mandate, shaggar also presented a solution
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Mar 14, 2017 18:40
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James Baud posted:Yeah, years after I'd shelved my (unmodded Panasonic) 3DO I was able to play some games on it that I could never get my hands on, "in the day", by burning them myself. Didn't know it could be picky, may have just been lucky. the pickiness reputation for the 3do comes from the fact that a lot of 90s/early 2000s cd burners and media were just plain lovely, and would produce discs on the edges of tolerance. it's far less of a problem with any disc you'd buy in recent years. for the same reason, people also used to claim the sega cd and the dreamcast were picky about media. Cold on a Cob posted:they would often say they would work with unmodded consoles but that was bullshit again, depends on who was supplying them.
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Mar 14, 2017 18:42
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fishmech posted:the pickiness reputation for the 3do comes from the fact that a lot of 90s/early 2000s cd burners and media were just plain lovely, and would produce discs on the edges of tolerance. it's far less of a problem with any disc you'd buy in recent years. from experience, no. i experimented with a half dozen different brands of cdr to get my FZ-1 to read burned discs, only five years ago. the pickup will read pressed discs 100% of the time, depending on the cdr, it will either not see it as a valid disc at all or fail/reset while loading constantly.
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infernal machines posted:from experience, no. i experimented with a half dozen different brands of cdr to get my FZ-1 to read burned discs, only five years ago. the pickup will read pressed discs 100% of the time, depending on the cdr, it will either not see it as a valid disc at all or fail/reset while loading constantly. far less is not the same as no problem at all
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how have manufacturing tolerances for CDRs and ROM lasers changed over time? and are there any security implications for this? (suck it OSI I can stay on topic)
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fishmech posted:again, depends on who was supplying them. wrong. i would love for you to provide even a single example of someone even making the claim that there were hk silvers that work on an unmodded psx (and without using a swap trick) because i sure as gently caress can't find anything and definitely don't remember these existing i do know that some people *thought* that some games were hk silvers but these were legit games, so if you're thinking of some copies of chrono cross or something that you saw back then, they were legit
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Cold on a Cob posted:wrong. i would love for you to provide even a single example of someone even making the claim that there were hk silvers that work on an unmodded psx (and without using a swap trick) because i sure as gently caress can't find anything and definitely don't remember these existing pretty sure the games that had labels with clear misspellings were not in fact legit products approved by Sony corporation, broheim. nevertheless we had them back then, my cousin would get them from this shady shop in Philly. he never had a modded psx and neither did i.
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Mar 14, 2017 18:57
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fishmech posted:pretty sure the games that had labels with clear misspellings were not in fact legit products approved by Sony corporation, broheim. nevertheless we had them back then, my cousin would get them from this shady shop in Philly. he never had a modded psx and neither did i. bullshit. your post is the only place i have ever seen this claim made. give me one documented case of a bootleg that worked on an unmodded psx not some horseshit about how you and your uncle at nintendo did it. c'mon son.
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Cold on a Cob posted:bullshit. your post is the only place i have ever seen this claim made. give me one documented case of a bootleg that worked on an unmodded psx not some horseshit about how you and your uncle at nintendo did it. c'mon son. thats nice, but it was all over the place back then. and actually doing the thing was fairly easy with access to pressing plants unless your allegation is that our local gamestops were secretly installing undetectable mod chips when they sold psxes or something lol
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Mar 14, 2017 19:20
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like a speakeasy but for virginity
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fishmech posted:pretty sure the games that had labels with clear misspellings were not in fact legit products approved by Sony corporation, broheim. nevertheless we had them back then, my cousin would get them from this shady shop in Philly. he never had a modded psx and neither did i. Lmao the uncle at nintendo story from nintendo kid ahahahaha
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fishmech posted:thats nice, but it was all over the place back then. and actually doing the thing was fairly easy with access to pressing plants You make the claim, you produce the evidence. Especially in this thread of all threads. Any actual evidence of bootleggers pirating fully working PSX discs (wobble and all) would be cool as gently caress and a neat thing to chat about instead of this unsubstantiated garbage you're posting. Enough said.
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Cold on a Cob posted:You make the claim, you produce the evidence. Especially in this thread of all threads. Any actual evidence of bootleggers pirating fully working PSX discs (wobble and all) would be cool as gently caress and a neat thing to chat about instead of this unsubstantiated garbage you're posting. Enough said. the evidence was that we bought cheap discs for our playstations from a shady shop and some of them had clearly misprinted/misspeeled labels that couldn't have been legit. and they worked fine in unmodified playstations. unless your allegation is that these were secretly official copies that someone faked the labels on and sold below cost for some reason i don't know what more you want. do you also not believe that the guy with the newspaper shop who carried bootleg dvds didn't do it because nobody ever wrote an article about "hey, george who runs the newspaper shop is selling pirate dvds"??
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fishmech posted:the evidence was that we bought cheap discs for our playstations from a shady shop and some of them had clearly misprinted/misspeeled labels that couldn't have been legit. and they worked fine in unmodified playstations. so do you still own one of those discs? wanna sell?
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since you're fishmech you'll have the discs to prove this then since no one else can confirm any of this
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ymgve posted:so do you still own one of those discs? no, cuz i sold them in high school when pc psx emulation got good
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and with that died the only evidence
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fishmech posted:no, cuz i sold them in high school when pc psx emulation got good quote:
quote:I have a factory pressed bootleg of Suikoden II, I think it was a "Players" version as that logo looks familiar. I'll hook up a system and see if it plays on an un-modded system. It was just the disc in a loose system at a thrift store, I got it because I thought it meant that the system was modded(it was as it plays CD-Rs). quote:I got around to testing my copy of Suikoden II on a non-modded system, it is a "Players" version and it doesn't boot up. With a CD-R game the system seems to start into the CD-Player, and with this pressed bootleg it displays a message saying "Please insert Playstation CD-ROM". I tested it on a model SCPH-1001, the earliest model available in North America.
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spankmeister posted:Lmao the uncle at nintendo story from nintendo kid ahahahaha
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i thought everyone and their brothers used those action replays to play their "imports"
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CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:i thought everyone and their brothers used those action replays to play their "imports" same, or a chipped psx, but apparently not if you had the super elite secret hookups that fishmech and his cousin had that produced discs that literally the entire internet denies ever existed
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Cold on a Cob posted:same, or a chipped psx, but apparently not if you had the super elite secret hookups that fishmech and his cousin had that produced discs that literally the entire internet denies ever existed no, the entire internet does not deny they exist lol it wasnt anything secret either, it was some lovely game store near where my cousin lived in philly
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Mar 14, 2017 19:56
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fishmech posted:no, the entire internet does not deny they exist lol
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https://twitter.com/NPR/status/841708655934226432?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
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Wiggly Wayne DDS posted:well cite someone proving it works then, because i sure as hell can't find anyone who can even recall a vague rumour of this ever happening my experience with buying bootleg games for several years, hth.
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was their defense "don't kink shame"
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we get it, you vibe
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 https://twitter.com/JulianAssange/status/841633864049135616 In case he deletes it: 
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did anyone post this one yesterday http://www.zdnet.com/article/leaked-us-military-files-exposed/
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anthonypants posted:did anyone post this one yesterday http://www.zdnet.com/article/leaked-us-military-files-exposed/ holy poo poo. this seems like it should be bigger news
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infernal machines posted:holy poo poo. this seems like it should be bigger news there might have been another disclosure right around then
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infernal machines posted:roughly, something mandating ongoing manufacturer support and minimum levels of security for internet connected devices. I'd be down with that just because it would cover the world of cheap Android tablets and Radio Shack wifi devices.
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anthonypants posted:did anyone post this one yesterday http://www.zdnet.com/article/leaked-us-military-files-exposed/ this would be big news except the OPM already leaked all of this poo poo and more like 3 years ago e: although i guess that data didn't end up publically on the internet so welp
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