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RanKizama posted:This poo poo makes me mad. GAMES JOURNALISM
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XavierGenisi posted:Are there any announced plans for releasing the soundtrack for this game? Cause I need this game's soundtrack on hand to just listen whenever. Out 3/27th and you can order via amazon.jp
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Archenteron posted:The satchet keeps them from running away, then the bait let's you ride them. I have the upgraded Satchet, so I need to try this now. poo poo.
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Mar 14, 2017 20:22
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Well, that's the best Shakespeare I've seen in a while.
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RanKizama posted:This poo poo makes me mad. "i didnt finish the game and the plot doesnt pay off in tge first ten hours". also how the hell did this guy spend thirty hours in route a what the gently caress
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Mar 14, 2017 20:23
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STANKBALLS TASTYLEGS posted:"i didnt finish the game and the plot doesnt pay off in tge first ten hours". I spent 25 in route A trying to do & discover as much as I could, but I was actually having a good time, so I dunno what his excuse is.
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Mar 14, 2017 20:24
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Jack Trades posted:GAMES JOURNALISM It's the national post, it's actually not games journalism
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mysterious frankie posted:I spent 25 in route A trying to do & discover as much as I could, but I was actually having a good time, so I dunno what his excuse is.
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Mar 14, 2017 20:26
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RanKizama posted:Dude has a raging hard-on for BotW and went into Nier begrudgingly because he want to play more Zelda so he did the absolute minimum. "Ugh, I wanted ice cream so I ordered soup; they're both made of liquid so why isn't this satisfying?"
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Mar 14, 2017 20:32
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Just got started with Route C and the title screen showed up. Sorry 9S, there will be no **** with 2B.
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STANKBALLS TASTYLEGS posted:"i didnt finish the game and the plot doesnt pay off in tge first ten hours". His criticisms for the open world part aren't entirely unfounded, but I feel he neglects to talk about how the map will change a couple of times throughout the adventure, or that the geographically close map design is reminiscent of the first Nier and also of Dark Souls, which featured a fairly densely stacked world that was more or less geographically sensible within itself. Also people hate on these sidequests! What gives? Did they not play the first game? The first Nier's sidequests are legit pretty bad, mostly generic with a handful of really good ones here and there (and the banter was great of course) but this game's got sidequests that actually tie into the main plot, and most of them involve performing a specific task or accomplishing a goal, not just "kill x wolves" and whatnot. Hell, the ones that tasked me to get materials and stuff tended to be solved right away, since you can take quests across the various paths, which actually takes the NG+ style and puts it to good use. I'd say this game's sidequests are far more thematically interesting than a majority of its contemporaries.
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Is there a particular trick to beating Speed Star's third race? Am I going to just have to wait til I'm fully-saturated on go-faster chips and Speed Salves? e: watching walkthroughs, gosh it's a photo finish at best, huh Zeerust fucked around with this message at 22:05 on Mar 14, 2017 |
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Use the down attack and evade cancel before you touch the ground on the startup. Evade Distance helped me a lot as well.
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8-Bit Scholar posted:Also people hate on these sidequests! What gives? Did they not play the first game? The first Nier's sidequests are legit pretty bad, mostly generic with a handful of really good ones here and there (and the banter was great of course) but this game's got sidequests that actually tie into the main plot, and most of them involve performing a specific task or accomplishing a goal, not just "kill x wolves" and whatnot. Hell, the ones that tasked me to get materials and stuff tended to be solved right away, since you can take quests across the various paths, which actually takes the NG+ style and puts it to good use. I'd say this game's sidequests are far more thematically interesting than a majority of its contemporaries. I would rather have dull quests and good banter, like Nier/Drak3, then Automatas good quests dull banter, however I give Automata a complete pass with this because as we know, there is a significant reason why Operators/2B do not banter with, and are standoffish bitches to 9S. The reason YoRHa acts all awkward/contradictory around each other isn't answered till the very last conversation of the game. So it's understandable, and even likely, to think the story/characters are just weird or random or poorly written, or just lack 'fun'. It pays off in the end though, assuming you get there.
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Terper posted:Just got started with Route C and the title screen showed up. Actually, the best girl swooped in and ****ed 2B while he was out of town
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Terper posted:Sorry 9S, there will be no **** with 2B. This was the best line in the game and completely killed all the seriousness of that moment 
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Wow, what a loving trip. Taro Yoko continues to surprise me, even after I think I know all of his tricks. I've completed Endings A-E. Still need to upgrade everything, complete all the miniquests, and fight the superbosses. I have a lot of thoughts about the game, but I'm just going to posit a few questions and discussion points off the top of my head right now: 1. I'm not sure if I fully understood why info on Project Gestalt/Popola's Library was in the Tower. I guess the machines knew that humanity was extinct since they set up YoRHa, and by extension, the Council of Humanity, to perpetuate their endless existential war. But I'm not sure what they mean about the machine's containing the "ghost of humanity". 2. I thought the way A2 defeated the Red Girls was great and super clever. But I'm not sure if they were still alive after that? Were they the one's piloting the crab robot at the end? Ending D seems to suggest they're still alive and preparing to launch themselves into space. Was this their plan all along, or did they only decide that after the final battle? I have a few ideas, but I'd like to hear someone else's interpretation on their rationale. 3. What happens if 9S chooses to go to space with the Red Girls in Ending D? I turned them down in my playthrough. Would that prevent his consciousness from being reassembled in Ending E? 4. Were Adam and Eve (and their subsequent defeat) part of the Red Girls' plan? So they didn't have full control of the network, I assume. 5. I suppose the "Romeos and Juliets" play you see in the Amusement is foreshadowing. Really, really good foreshadowing. It mirrors the cycle of 2B killing 9S throughout their time together, and 9S's battle against the 2B copies in the Tower. It's also predictive of the in-fighting between the Red Girls. 6. What was up with the plant stuff? Pod 042 notes that the Machine Core is structured after a plant cell, and Adam says that his creators were "like plants". I expected that to pay off somehow, but I'm not quite sure what to make of it. What do you guys think? Also, where the gently caress Project Gestalt Report 5?
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I'm starting to think that Jackass is a bit of a jerk.
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Beefstew posted:Wow, what a loving trip. Taro Yoko continues to surprise me, even after I think I know all of his tricks. I've completed Endings A-E. Still need to upgrade everything, complete all the miniquests, and fight the superbosses. I have a lot of thoughts about the game, but I'm just going to posit a few questions and discussion points off the top of my head right now: Seemed to be the machines arriving at some kind of enlightenment through the fusion of confucianism and taoism but I don't know remotely enough about either to really say. Pretty tough to follow everything that's happening in that final sequence. What the red girls and Ko-Shi and Ro-Shi say makes me think they changed their minds at the very end, but then I'm not sure what the collection units were actually for. Guess it's nice that ending E is big good feels because I have almost no idea what was happening at the end of the story. lets hang out fucked around with this message at 00:08 on Mar 15, 2017 |
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I'm looking forward to when I complete this game and can finally read 90% of this thread (unironically, I'm really excited to see what other people's thoughts are on this cool and experimental game)
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mysterious frankie posted:haha, wow, that guy does this for a living! now that most of the unmentionable stuff has blown over i think its time to actually have a discussion about ethics in games journalism and really question why so many reviewers these days seem to be so bad at playing video games and like aggressively defending their spots and demanding the industry change to accommodate their preferences re: challenge and reward
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Under the vegetable posted:now that most of the unmentionable stuff has blown over i think its time to actually have a discussion about ethics in games journalism and really question why so many reviewers these days seem to be so bad at playing video games and like aggressively defending their spots and demanding the industry change to accommodate their preferences re: challenge and reward I wish it had blown over, but I think as soon as anyone tries to make push the issue the same assholes will come out of the woodwork again. It's just too vocal a portion of the game playing demographic.
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finished ending B at roughly midnight and it took every inch of self-control to shut the console down instead of just playin to 4am
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Messing around with sidequests I missed, and mopping up chests and weapons that I have yet to find, and I finally found out how to get to the guy who upgrades your weapons to level 4, and feel a bit stupid for not figuring it out sooner. Now it's just buying all the other stuff that's for sale all throughout the game, and upgrading stuff when I can as I slowly build up to 100% completion. Here's a question: what's the deal with Emil's shop? Like, usually, he sells a bunch of plug-in chips, and then other times, he sells materials. Does he sell other stuff? How can I tell what he's selling?
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Someone has translated a section of what I'm assuming is the JP Black Box edition art book (someone, anyone, please get me scans, I'll translate the heck out of them!!!) which reveals Jackass and the Commander knew each other and were good friends, the Commander being the person named White Jackass mourns after the Bunker blows up: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=232020867&postcount=657 I think this means the Commander is a regular android, not a YoRHa model? Which I guess makes sense.
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2 Days until PC release and they haven't mentioned anything about the release time or if there's gonna be a pre-load or not. :/
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THIS SPEED STAR QUEST CAN GO gently caress ITSELF
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Beefstew posted:Wow, what a loving trip. Taro Yoko continues to surprise me, even after I think I know all of his tricks. I've completed Endings A-E. Still need to upgrade everything, complete all the miniquests, and fight the superbosses. I have a lot of thoughts about the game, but I'm just going to posit a few questions and discussion points off the top of my head right now: I've seen people say that the council of humanity was set up by machines before, but I'm almost positive that it and YoRHa were set up by other androids. The documents even mention using machine cores for YoRHa because using standard android AI would be unethical, which doesn't make a lot of sense unless the authors of the documents are androids.
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Mordiceius posted:THIS SPEED STAR QUEST CAN GO gently caress ITSELF That quest gave me so much loving grief. Here's how to cheese it: Overclock chips. There are two packs of enemies as you take the left path. Perfect dodge to get time to slow for a few seconds. You'll be cutting it close, but I did it without speed salves (after I ran out racing that loving rear end in a top hat).
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Is there any way to complete it without chips or salve? If you use them, you just run the direct path and it takes no special skill. If you don't take them there's no amount of skill that will get you there in time, as far as I can tell. Kind of a bummer. Traversal skills at least made a potential difference in the first two races.
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Bugblatter posted:Is there any way to complete it without chips or salve? If you use them, you just run the direct path and it takes no special skill. If you don't take them there's no amount of skill that will get you there in time, as far as I can tell. Kind of a bummer. Traversal skills at least made a potential difference in the first two races. It does take skill with chips, honestly. You really cannot afford to gently caress up the dodge to trigger overclocking, and one hesitation or misstep will still gently caress you. I beat his second race using the Za Warudo Pod Program. Work smarter, not harder.
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I have completed route C and do I need to start the game again to gain access to anything else or can it all be done through chapter select?
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Speed Star 3 is perfectly doable with chips alone. Get your movement speed to +20% and pile on evade distance after that if you feel like it. Go left at the start and just follow the crater around. You'll have one jump that you can easily manage and it's just a slide into the finish from there. The only real trick is not doing a hard landing at the beginning.
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Corte posted:I have completed route C and do I need to start the game again to gain access to anything else or can it all be done through chapter select? The latter
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Yeah I took an empty chip slot and stuffed it with all the evade+ and speed+ chips that had been rotting in my inventory and went left from the start, skid around the inner ring of the crater and jump the waterfall and skid into the finish line (DONT JUMP) It took a few tries but I actually had more trouble with the first race because I kept missing the root jump.
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Uhhh I just remember I had an escort quest go south in Route B. Did I do it right by not fully completing it before I went into Route C?
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Please tell me there is a way to make hacking easier, barring lowering the difficulty - or at least tell me there's some way to bolster the amount of hits I can take.
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verbal enema posted:Uhhh I just remember I had an escort quest go south in Route B. It's not a big deal, you can relax about it Bad Seafood posted:Please tell me there is a way to make hacking easier, barring lowering the difficulty - or at least tell me there's some way to bolster the amount of hits I can take. There isn't, good luck to you
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Bad Seafood posted:Please tell me there is a way to make hacking easier, barring lowering the difficulty - or at least tell me there's some way to bolster the amount of hits I can take. Nope. Always three hits, as indicated by the tail geometry falling off of your cursor. It's the most basic shmup patterns around though, so some practice will get you there. I dunno if lowering difficulty does anything at all? Unless it makes it so only the easier games occur.
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