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CaptainSarcastic posted:There is a heritable component to addiction - exactly how much of it is nature versus nurture is not entirely known. Genetics play some role, though. If you look at family history it is often a pretty clear generational line - I can easily trace alcohol back up my family tree on my dad's side.
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TheSpamalope posted:Had a good rear end day noons. Went hiking with my fiance all day, stopped for chili and cornbread and beer on the way home, had a beer and finished a work project in about a quarter of the time expected and now I'm drinking some beers and playing Betrayal at Krondor. All right have a good one bud take'er easy that sounds like a good rear end day, I made chili and my fiancee made cornbread last week and it was a good dinner. I didnt really do poo poo at work except shitpost and now im watching shameless and enjoying a dinner of slowcooked beef tip and gravy over mashed potatoes (:
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Jim Barris posted:I don't think that's necessarily genetics though. I remember at a very young age walking in on my uncles or my mother doing drugs or even shooting up and I''m sure that played a large role in why I found it very easy to start using drugs in that particular manner. There is a family history of drug use present in my family, obviously, but that could well be from the normalization that occurs from observing drug use from a very young age being passed down through generations just as easily as a genetic influence. You could apply this same line of thinking easily to drinking. If your father was an alcoholic the habitual consumption to excess of alcohol was something you certainly witnessed from a very young age. Make me get all pedantic and poo poo up in here... "Twin, adoption, and family studies conclusively demonstrated that genetic factors account for 50 to 60 percent of the variance in risk for developing alcoholism." https://pubs.niaaa.nih.gov/publications/arh40/64-75.pdf
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CaptainSarcastic posted:Make me get all pedantic and poo poo up in here...
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Mar 15, 2017 08:01
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people who are sober are idiots
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Mar 15, 2017 15:45
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Smash it Smash hit posted:sobriety is an illusion True. The addiction never goes away, there is just a fight against inevitable relapse. Some hold out longer than others but none of them should be considered happy or normal
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Mar 15, 2017 15:48
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It really is better to just use. If youre deep in addiction your life is already over in any meaningful sense. Better to use and see what lies beneath instead of living as a tortured ghost in the world.
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Mar 15, 2017 15:51
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true happiness can only be found in oblivion - voltaire
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Mar 15, 2017 15:55
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*(the video game, high as gently caress)
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Mar 15, 2017 15:55
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It just comes down to PTS or PTG
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Mar 15, 2017 15:59
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i wish there was a mod for skyrim where you are all hosed up on drugs...
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Mar 15, 2017 16:13
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dad gay. so what posted:people who are sober are idiots You're sober. Checks out.
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Mar 15, 2017 16:31
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Pennywise the Frown posted:You're sober. since when? looks like youre the one whos retarded, retard.
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Mar 15, 2017 16:32
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dad gay. so what posted:since when? looks like youre the one whos retarded, retard. Aren't you on like day 85 or something? So you've been sober for 85 days. Don't be one of those people who say "I'm never sober, it's always a struggle and I'm always an addict boohoohoo." Well the latter part is true at least. If you're not drinking, you're sober. And therefore you are an idiot. 
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Mar 15, 2017 16:36
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Pennywise the Frown posted:Aren't you on like day 85 or something? So you've been sober for 85 days. Don't be one of those people who say "I'm never sober, it's always a struggle and I'm always an addict boohoohoo." Well the latter part is true at least. i do as i please. you are the one who sucks, and sucks hard.
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Mar 15, 2017 16:40
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Touche.
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Mar 15, 2017 16:43
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This is not what I thought it was
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Mar 15, 2017 17:16
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day 561 inside this prison of sobriety. all i want is one altered mental state. please god, gently caress me up.
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Mar 15, 2017 18:58
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Just do a handstand, it alters your world view, makes your face red, gives you a headache, could kill you Sounds like drugs to me!
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Mar 15, 2017 19:02
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Women who worshipped Bacchus would basically headbang to induce a spiritual ferver. Try that
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Mar 15, 2017 19:19
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Hardawn posted:Women who worshipped Bacchus would basically headbang to induce a spiritual ferver. Try that Best part is it's free!
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Hardawn posted:Women who worshipped Bacchus would basically headbang to induce a spiritual ferver. Try that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTvu1Yr3Ohk I'll help everyone get started
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Mar 15, 2017 20:15
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im not counting amphetamines as part of my sobriety plan so its ok
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Mar 15, 2017 21:13
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also weed, benzos, and canned air. and booze.
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Mar 15, 2017 21:14
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sometimes when I drink too much I forget about things (:
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Mar 15, 2017 21:14
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Use hani sani it's not a drug!!!!
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Mar 15, 2017 21:20
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Smash it Smash hit posted:Use hani sani it's not a drug!!!! neither is kratom 
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Mar 15, 2017 21:20
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also ketamine is technically a treatment for depression, which i mean, cmon...
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Mar 15, 2017 21:21
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If you drive very fast on the highway with your head out the window you can cut out the can and stick it to Big Air.
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Mar 15, 2017 21:23
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I only drink once a week now, just to save money
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Mar 15, 2017 21:48
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This is going to be interesting seeing my mood fly all over the place without the alcohol "stabilizing" me. It will probably take a while for my meds to start working again. Who knows?
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Mar 15, 2017 23:20
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dad gay. so what posted:im not counting amphetamines as part of my sobriety plan so its ok Good boy
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Pennywise the Frown posted:This is going to be interesting seeing my mood fly all over the place without the alcohol "stabilizing" me. It will probably take a while for my meds to start working again. Who knows? Just dont forget, its better than being dead!
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Mar 15, 2017 23:41
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SpaceClown posted:Just dont forget, its better than being dead! Well, that could be a problem with the depression/mania. We'll see! Exciting!
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Mar 15, 2017 23:49
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this clown believes in you, go get em tiger! 
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Pennywise the Frown posted:Well, that could be a problem with the depression/mania. We'll see! Exciting! Thought you were on benzos? Those work immediately thought it won't help your depression or mania afaik.
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500 good dogs posted:Thought you were on benzos? Those work immediately thought it won't help your depression or mania afaik. Yeah I am. Those are really helping with the anxiety. Not so much with impulse and emotion regulation.
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ham_sanitizer posted:please god, gently caress me up. That would be redundant. dad gay. so what posted:also ketamine is technically a treatment for depression, which i mean, cmon... A doctor who operates on himself has a fool for a patient.
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Pennywise the Frown posted:Yeah I am. Those are really helping with the anxiety. Not so much with impulse and emotion regulation. Yeah benzos probably make me more impulsive because IDGAF
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