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Milky Moor posted:"Now, people have called me crazy for saying Mass Effect is Shakespearean. But if we take Romeo and make him a Turian and if we swap Juliet out for an Asari, well, the similarities are quite astounding." If you throw us, do we not ragdoll? If you incinerate us, do we not scream?
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Milky Moor posted:
I don't see a popup telling the player to buy more DLC. (would probably pay money for 1960s bubble helmet shiny silver space suits though)
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exquisite tea posted:That's not true at all though. All the original Mass Effect games in their time were blockbuster AAA releases and looked it. Mass Effect 2 in particular still looks and plays great for a game that came out in 2010, and competed with AC2 and Bioshock for visuals. There's a lot of revisionist handwaving to defend the cheap-looking production values of Andromeda by saying that Mass Effect never looked good, but that's really not the case. ME:A doesn't look cheap at all, it just has bad animations. The rest of it looks great imo and there's a very clear and distinct improvement in character models and overall graphics
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I know I can't discuss or enjoy a game unless I know exactly where it falls on the pulp to hard sci-fi scale.
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Milky Moor posted:"Now, people have called me crazy for saying Mass Effect is Shakespearean. But if we take Romeo and make him a Turian and if we swap Juliet out for an Asari, well, the similarities are quite astounding." Smug statements aside, what's Mass Effect in your opinion if it isn't Adventures of Daring Do IN SPACE!? What makes it so much different that it can't be put in the same category like Star Wars, Babylon 5, Dune, the Vorkosigan series, The Expanse or Flash Gordon?
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Mar 15, 2017 12:37
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Maybe you can't put everything into a neat little box with a label on it, guys
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Mar 15, 2017 12:39
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And mass effect is clearly a sci-fi comedy
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u morons? mass effect series is obviously a hyper-realistic but socially progressive alternate reality bottle episode sitcom kind of thing qed
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Watching the Polygon stream. Checking if your sibling had died or not being optional was funny, but it keeps happening. Checking if a guy who just got shot is okay is optional, looking for a missing Pathfinder is optional, investigating your own distress flares is optional! I don't think I ever expected to criticize the -objective choices- of a video game. 
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Decius posted:Smug statements aside, what's Mass Effect in your opinion if it isn't Adventures of Daring Do IN SPACE!? What makes it so much different that it can't be put in the same category like Star Wars, Babylon 5, Dune, the Vorkosigan series, The Expanse or Flash Gordon?
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Zzulu posted:Maybe you can't put everything into a neat little box with a label on it, guys Sure you can. People are just going to disagree what box something is in, just like they disagree about everything else.
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Zzulu posted:ME:A doesn't look cheap at all, it just has bad animations. The rest of it looks great imo and there's a very clear and distinct improvement in character models and overall graphics I'm certain there's been some improvement since 2012 but this most certainly looks cheap and bad. Stupid animation aside, he looks like a Sim from 2004. This is just bad. Hell anything that comes out now that doesn't have faces that look like Rise of the Tomb Raider, could be better.
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Nordick posted:I'm... not quite sure if all of those titles belong in the same sub-category of sci-fi, to be quite honest These works have been classified as Space Opera everywhere for decades. Dune and Star Wars are the very definition of the genre. I don't quite understand why this is such a sticking point in this thread today. It's like questioning if LotR is epic Fantasy literature or GoT is a Fantasy version of War of the Roses. I mean, you can of course, but you better bring some compelling arguments for arguing such a minority position.
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DancingShade posted:(would probably pay money for 1960s bubble helmet shiny silver space suits though) A lot more LSD kicking around in the 60s, the book covers tended to reflect that.
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It's not true space opera until people have heart plugs and we get our mission briefings from a floating diseased fat man who showers in machine oil. ^ Pathfinder meteor mushroom deposit located. Harvest another 500 to improve your groove.
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Looking at some streams and enemy ai likes to bug just like your party does. Standing around on some box somewhere not moving or attacking even while under fire
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Kavak posted:Watching the Polygon stream. Checking if your sibling had died or not being optional was funny, but it keeps happening. Checking if a guy who just got shot is okay is optional, looking for a missing Pathfinder is optional, investigating your own distress flares is optional! I don't think I ever expected to criticize the -objective choices- of a video game. I dunno, seems like they're letting you play maximum rear end in a top hat Ryder if you want. Or, cutting away excess parts of missions so that you have less busywork. Which seems crazy after Inquisition, but Hernandez did say there was less padding, maybe this is what she meant.
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exquisite tea posted:If you throw us, do we not ragdoll? If you incinerate us, do we not scream? SHEPARD: "To bang or not to bang. That is the question." Decius posted:Smug statements aside, what's Mass Effect in your opinion if it isn't Adventures of Daring Do IN SPACE!? What makes it so much different that it can't be put in the same category like Star Wars, Babylon 5, Dune, the Vorkosigan series, The Expanse or Flash Gordon? Writing quickly because I need to vanish... All of these things don't go into the same category. I love B5 and the Expanse, but both of them are very different sci-fi. Neither of them are remotely pulp. Other people have said it, so I'll reiterate. When people say pulp sci-fi - people who have a broad knowledge of sci-fi - they are referring to a time period around the 40s where the stories consisted or typical adventure stories that emphasized action and plot over anything else, but transplanted without much thought to alien planets. Very little question is given to the how or why of things and there's very little regard for any rules or consistency even chapter-to-chapter. Johnny Spacerock, the all-American good boy hero, needs to save the beautiful woman from the Snakepeople of Verticon 12 because that's the story. The Expanse, for example, is very concerned with the how and why of things. As is Babylon 5. Mass Effect has a whole codex. You might call them space opera, but they're not pulp by any stretch of the imagination. People aren't arguing whether ME is space opera, they're arguing whether it's pulp.
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Mass Effect is actually fruit pulp.
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Mar 15, 2017 12:54
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I suddenly realise it would be loving amazing if some competent studio started making games based on Harrry Harrison's Bill The Galactic Hero series
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Mar 15, 2017 12:57
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Mass Effect is in fact pulp. One of the major problems I had is how the cheap paper discs kept falling apart in my DVD drive.
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Mar 15, 2017 12:58
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less than a week till we are all taken away by the mass effect
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im ready for the mass effect "effect"
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Mar 15, 2017 13:14
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early impressions http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=232048307&postcount=1
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CottonWolf posted:Andromeda seems more Star Trek than Star Wars. Which I tend to think of as a positive. Yeah you would, childfucker. Serf posted:I dunno, seems like they're letting you play maximum rear end in a top hat Ryder if you want. Or, cutting away excess parts of missions so that you have less busywork. Which seems crazy after Inquisition, but Hernandez did say there was less padding, maybe this is what she meant. Actually people are saying you literally CANNOT play Ryder as an rear end in a top hat like you could with Shepherd. There's basically no "renegade" options in this new one, you're always goody mcbabyhead
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BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:Yeah you would, childfucker. Er... I have literally no idea what you're talking about. Do you have the wrong person?
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CottonWolf posted:Er... I have literally no idea what you're talking about. Do you have the wrong person? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ellen-ladowsky/pedophilia-and-star-trek_b_5857.html quote:[...]of the more than 100 offenders the unit has arrested over the last four years, "all but one" has been "a hard-core Trekkie." [...] Also, Aatrek.
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Mar 15, 2017 13:32
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Curses. The secret paedophilia ring of the Start Trek fandom has been outed, and I didn't even know.
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My main takeaway from the last few pages is I'll be playing a whole lot of multiplayer.
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BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:Actually people are saying you literally CANNOT play Ryder as an rear end in a top hat like you could with Shepherd. I dunno, being able to not check on your sibling/fellow crewmembers sounds like a pretty good way to roleplay a thoughtless rear end in a top hat. I'm glad the paragon/renegade divide is gone. That seemed like a Shepherd thing, and it was also pretty limiting since they reinforced it with those points-locked choices, forcing you to play one or the other to get some options. I thought it was a rather dumb holdover from KOTOR.
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exquisite tea posted:Mass Effect is just plain jane science fiction, not space opera or pulp or any other weird terms people use to describe it. The series certainly draws inspiration from many different sources, but at its core it attempts to explore the relationship between people and technology, which is as traditionally sci-fi as you can get. Neither space operas or pulp sci-fi are concerned with the tech itself as an element of the story, it's just a backdrop. Mass Effect, a philosophical treatise on man's relationship to technology.
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Think I'm gonna upgrade to the 1080ti ahead of this game. I've been wanting something cutting edge for a while and now's as good a time as any.
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CottonWolf posted:Curses. The secret paedophilia ring of the Start Trek fandom has been outed, and I didn't even know. They're Wesley crushers.
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Karpaw posted:Mass Effect, a philosophical treatise on man's relationship to technology. It doesn't have to do those things elegantly in order for it to be true. I think if there's anyone we can trust to explore technological themes with a deft hand though, it's the writer of Halo 4.
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RBA Starblade posted:My main takeaway from the last few pages is I'll be playing a whole lot of multiplayer. sign me up skipper, I'm coming home (to shoot aliens)
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Mar 15, 2017 13:54
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i'm going play the single player mode and i'll love it
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Kurtofan posted:i'm going play the single player mode and i'll love it hosed up if true
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Kurtofan posted:i'm going play the single player mode and i'll love it Bioware should let me put the aliens into gulags
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Just watched a stream from one of these twitch guys that get press copies and the only thing that looks like will annoy me a lot is the planet selection/scanning when you're exploring a system. Holy gently caress it takes forever for it to zoom in, you scan, zoom out. And when you want to switch to another planet you zoom in again to where you were just to travel to the new place Like yeah it's more immersive but gently caress
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Flipswitch posted:Bioware should let me put the aliens into gulags nothing convinced me the way humans treated elves was correct in dragon age like sera
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