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chitoryu12 posted:I still love how the Hush saga handled Bruce Wayne's identity being revealed: the Riddler finds out that he's Batman, only to realize that he can't tell anyone the truth because it would make the ultimate riddle worthless. that was dumb as hell because that's a secret, not a riddle. batman didn't hide his identity behind clever wordplay.
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:that was dumb as hell because that's a secret, not a riddle. batman didn't hide his identity behind clever wordplay.
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darthbob88 posted:If we accept "What have I got in my pocket?" as a riddle, per the writings of B. Baggins, then "Who is the Batman?" is no less legitimate a riddle. I would dispute his categorizing it as the ultimate riddle, but not its inclusion. one lazy as heck story doesn't make other stories any less lazy
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darthbob88 posted:If we accept "What have I got in my pocket?" as a riddle, per the writings of B. Baggins, then "Who is the Batman?" is no less legitimate a riddle. I would dispute his categorizing it as the ultimate riddle, but not its inclusion. We don't, he was a stupid fat hobbit
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darthbob88 posted:If we accept "What have I got in my pocket?" as a riddle, per the writings of B. Baggins, then "Who is the Batman?" is no less legitimate a riddle. I would dispute his categorizing it as the ultimate riddle, but not its inclusion.
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It's a poor way to write yourself out of that development regardless. If the Riddler is pathologically obsessed with leaving riddles, why would he have a vested interest in keeping someone else's riddle a secret? And if he isn't pathologically obsessed with leaving riddles, why on earth should he have any qualms about revealing it? It doesn't seem to fit in with or extend the Riddler's character, and if the goal was to show he actually could outsmart Batman it's immediately undone by the resolution. I'd contrast it with this bit from John Byrne's run on Superman, right after a computer concludes Clark Kent is Superman: (Superman #2) It's kind of funny, but it also tells us a lot about who Lex is: the sort of person who cannot fathom being a super cool invincible alien and not flaunting it at all times. One of the better moments in a somewhat mixed run, IMO. SomeMathGuy fucked around with this message at 00:47 on Mar 16, 2017 |
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Why wouldn't The Riddler just create a riddle for other people about Batman's identity? I get that he spars with The World's Greatest Detective but does he seriously not ever make up riddles for others?prefect posted:George Reeves Keanu Reeves Matt Reeves Sorry Chris, you were the odd man out and we've decided your name has an S on the end.
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Doc Hawkins posted:
And half-Cryptkeeper like Batman declared he's in love with jailbait Robin/Catgirl. There were sure a lot of cringeworthy moments in that book, but I think this was the worse. Though actually-crazy Plastic Man was good.
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prefect posted:Roy Orbison would have been perfect. Yeah, but then Spidey would have easily defeated him with cling film....
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darthbob88 posted:If we accept "What have I got in my pocket?" as a riddle, per the writings of B. Baggins, then "Who is the Batman?" is no less legitimate a riddle. I would dispute his categorizing it as the ultimate riddle, but not its inclusion. When Bilbo said that, he knew and accepted that it was not a riddle. That's why Gollum got to make three guesses.
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Lobok posted:Why wouldn't The Riddler just create a riddle for other people about Batman's identity? I get that he spars with The World's Greatest Detective but does he seriously not ever make up riddles for others?
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Ghostlight posted:That's mostly my problem with it. Riddler's characterisation is that sure, he wouldn't tell people Batman is Bruce Wayne, but he'd immediately try and leak it by posing a riddle for other people to work out on their own who he is. True, he wouldn't leak it. He'd disguise it up in many layers. But that's the problem Riddler can't let the answer go. His need to be smarter than everyone won't let him simply let slip that "Batman is Bruce Wayne." Maybe under threat of violence or death by some of his fellow rogues, sure. But he also knows that if he tells them that he knows the answer, telling them that "You have to solve this riddle first" would get him ignored at best and beaten up at worst. And he can't tell the press or the police, because who would believe him? So he'd have to hide it in a riddle. But since it is the ultimate riddle, it would have to be worthy of the ultimate riddle surrounding it. Publishing it in the Sunday jumble in the Gotham Gazette isn't enough. It would have to be his masterpiece. The most devious contraption his wicked mind has ever devised. Something that only a genius of his caliber could solve. And in Batman's corner of the world, that basically leaves only him and Batman*. And Batman has no interest in solving a riddle he already knows the answer to. *Arguably, Lex Luthor could probably figure out Riddler's best. Though IIRC, Lex figured it out pre Rebirth on his own.
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On non-Marvel superhero casting, I always thought Grant Gustin as Barry Allen was surprisingly perfect. I didn't really have an image of Barry before seeing that show, but any other version of the character just feels wrong now.
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prefect posted:Roy Orbison would have been perfect. Well yes, but he was deceased at the time IIRC.
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Lobok posted:Mr. Jameson, sir, circulation is already low, are you sure you want to piss off There was an amazing subplot where Betty Brant was gone on honeymoon and Jonah was burning through like 10 secretaries a day and constantly calling them "Miss Brant".
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Cleretic posted:On non-Marvel superhero casting, I always thought Grant Gustin as Barry Allen was surprisingly perfect. I didn't really have an image of Barry before seeing that show, but any other version of the character just feels wrong now. He fits more with the Mark Waid/Animated JLU Wally West Flash
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Ghostlight posted:That's mostly my problem with it. Riddler's characterisation is that sure, he wouldn't tell people Batman is Bruce Wayne, but he'd immediately try and leak it by posing a riddle for other people to work out on their own who he is. To be fair, in the same scene Batman basically blackmailed the Riddler by threatening that if he was exposed as Bruce Wayne, Batman would tell the League of Assassins that the Riddler used a Lazarus Pit. So it was more than a compulsion for riddles.
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Senior Woodchuck posted:Speaking of, from social media sensation Jim'll Paint It: (drat did i despise that movie)
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Tasteful Dickpic posted:Is there a more perfect comic-book casting choice than JK Simmons as JJJ? I think not. Ryan Reynolds as Deadpool gets pretty close, since most of his roles are pretty much that character anyway but with the violence level adjusted to whatever movie he's in.
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biracial bear for uncut posted:Ryan Reynolds as Deadpool gets pretty close, since most of his roles are pretty much that character anyway but with the violence level adjusted to whatever movie he's in. Ryan Reynolds was actually a big part of why Deadpool got the movie he did. He's a giant Deadpool fan and worked hard to make sure that the final product would be faithful to the comics, unlike the X-Men Origins travesty.
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Lots of Shocker in this month's Star Lord (#4) if you're into that sort of thing. I hope he's a regular in the Zdarsky Spiderman.
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I am really weirded out by this "Not quite Chris Pratt" look Starlord is rocking.
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:that was dumb as hell because that's a secret, not a riddle. batman didn't hide his identity behind clever wordplay. Batman's riddle was: "Who is 600 years old, in charge of the world's deadliest assassins and will kill you in an inventive way if if I told him that you used his Lazarus pit?"
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Alhazred posted:Batman's riddle was: "Who is 600 years old, in charge of the world's deadliest assassins and will kill you in an inventive way if if I told him that you used his Lazarus pit?" Scarecrow? It's Scarecrow isn't it?
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It's actually a mirror
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Alhazred posted:Batman's riddle was: "Who is 600 years old, in charge of the world's deadliest assassins and will kill you in an inventive way if if I told him that you used his Lazarus pit?" "Because Poe wrote on both."
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Man, who is 600 years old as a baby, in charge of the world's deadliest assassins as a man, and kills you in an inventive way as an elder.
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# ? Mar 16, 2017 22:23 |
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Sure would love it if anybody has a panel of the X-Men's Beast looking like a goddamn fool/chump. For reasons.
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Diet Poison posted:Sure would love it if anybody has a panel of the X-Men's Beast looking like a goddamn fool/chump. For reasons. I don't have that, but I have Maria Hill being incredibly angry at him. I think All New X-Men by Bendis, but I don't remember the issue.
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Diet Poison posted:Sure would love it if anybody has a panel of the X-Men's Beast looking like a goddamn fool/chump. For reasons. Forget the source.
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Skwirl posted:I don't have that, but I have Maria Hill being incredibly angry at him. Well I was gonna go with a more anti-Beast avatar but this is one of my favorite X-Men pages/lines ever. Thanks for the reminder.
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Skwirl posted:I don't have that, but I have Maria Hill being incredibly angry at him. The Bachalo art says it's Uncanny, not All-New.
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It's Uncanny X-Men #12
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Ghostlight posted:It's Uncanny X-Men #12 It was part of one of the worst crossovers in X-men history.
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To clarify, the #12 that's Battle of the Atom, not the #12 that's Avengers vs X-Men.
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ugh, i'm so glad that xavier II and raze seem to have dropped off the face of the planet.
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Ghostlight posted:To clarify, the #12 that's Battle of the Atom, not the #12 that's Avengers vs X-Men. I wish this was a panel in a comic book, just so I could post it endlessly in this thread.
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E: Wrong thread! E2: Here's an apology panel of Spider-man getting owned really so hard he's speechless for 10 entire seconds. Lurdiak fucked around with this message at 08:42 on Mar 17, 2017 |
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Is Spider-Man just hypnotized? The Foreigner's power actually lasts ten seconds so it seems like more than coincidence that the clock features prominently in both panels and matches up with his power.
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