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AngryBooch posted:
Maybe this time around they put all their resources into facial animation, if you get my meaning 
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AngryBooch posted:
Look all I'm saying is that I wish that the comparison shots didn't use grainy zoomed out crap, compared to super in your face high def stuff, because it's disingenuous. Though, I don't know why I'm arguing when no-one will answer my question, and just call me a troll. It's easier then to realize that stylized animations aren't being made for your generation anymore, though I have no idea how to say that without pissing people off. Still for the lurkers, it's something that needs to be said.
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Digirat posted:Basic enemies losing tiny chips of health per bullet matches the ME3 bronze experience with bad gear, and the gold experience with good gear. Looking at this stream, it's taking roughly ten headshots to kill one generic enemy. Even if you did go back to bronze with really powerful gear, it wouldn't improve the game feel, which is noticeably worse. Enemies show no or understated reactions to being shot, there's low to no screen shake on melee and a number of powers, and there seems to be far less bass in many of the common sound effects. Sometimes when he headbutts people I can't hear anything at all. Sounds like multi bad Guess I don't have to get it 
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Turtlicious posted:Though, I don't know why I'm arguing when no-one will answer my question, and just call me a troll. It's easier then to realize that stylized animations aren't being made for your generation anymore, though I have no idea how to say that without pissing people off. Still for the lurkers, it's something that needs to be said. I got a chuckle out of this, thanks.
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Turtlicious posted:Look all I'm saying is that I wish that the comparison shots didn't use grainy zoomed out crap, compared to super in your face high def stuff, because it's disingenuous. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prosopagnosia
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mightygerm posted:
watch the bottle on the table
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Cowcaster posted:drat i just realized what all this was reminding me of Hey, that's me in the lower right! God, I look so young....
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Good Dumplings posted:...You're looking at just the lips and ignoring the rest of the face, it's not as expressive as the TW3 example but Jack has actual body and eye language that's also consistent with what she's saying. Andromeda either has gestures/expressions that don't fit or - way more often - have no expressions whatsoever. This becomes a lot more obvious when combined with the voice acting; everybody has a really unsettling lack of affect in every possible way. Both convey the same amount of emotion, except for some of the Ryder's which are done with all of the sliders done gently caress-y.
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Mar 16, 2017 02:49
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Gameplay feels smooth and slaps; That's all I can ask for. Animation still sucks but it isn't as distracting as I thought it'd be. Digging the space exploration theme. I haven't really watched many videos before hand so I wouldn't spoil myself so I'm not sure how wrong i am.
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Turtlicious posted:Look all I'm saying is that I wish that the comparison shots didn't use grainy zoomed out crap, compared to super in your face high def stuff, because it's disingenuous. I'm still not quite sure what you're saying. That the facial animations are supposed to look unrealistic because it's a art choice that will appeal to younger people and we're likely all in our late 20s-30s so we don't appreciate it?
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Mar 16, 2017 02:49
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Well this is disappointing. Guess I'll just play the Mass Effect Trilogy again.
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Mar 16, 2017 02:50
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Like, everything is so uniform in tone that it's actually hard to follow what's going on sometimes; things will happen but there's no immediately obvious cue for why they're happening because nobody's expressing any emotions. So you try to look at the dialogue, but that's all exposition, nobody seems to actually have anything but a mechanical reason to interact with someone else... so you try to follow that poo poo, but by the time you've caught up another loving robotface scene is happening gently caress
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Mar 16, 2017 02:51
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oh cool, i tried to change a graphics setting and my monitor went black and the only way to get image back was to plug it out and in again (battlefield 1 did this too) I set it to fullscreen borderless which ought to circumvent the problem in the future but that's....worrying
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Mar 16, 2017 02:51
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-gregory-jantz-phd/irritable-male-syndrome-i_b_1202904.html
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Mar 16, 2017 02:53
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More hot takes no one wants to read: God drat some of the reverb sounds amazing.
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Mar 16, 2017 02:52
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I feel like I'm witnessing what happened when Dragon Age 2 came out
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Funky See Funky Do posted:I'm still not quite sure what you're saying. That the facial animations are supposed to look unrealistic because it's a art choice that will appeal to younger people and we're likely all in our late 20s-30s so we don't appreciate it? Well mid to late 30's but yeah pretty much, when the first signs of irritable male syndrome start to appear, but yeah.
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Turtlicious posted:Both convey the same amount of emotion, except for some of the Ryder's which are done with all of the sliders done gently caress-y. No, I'm saying Ryder's has no animations beyond the lips. Look at something beyond the lips, look at any animations they do that aren't just audio cues. Andromeda characters either emote or speak, but very very rarely do both at the same time; you should link some examples where you feel they're doing both so we can see why you think the faces aren't creepy as balls.
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Mar 16, 2017 02:54
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You know he's obviously loving with you all and you just keep coming back for more, right? Who has been doing multiplayer? WHAT IS THE FLAMETHROWER SITUATION
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Mar 16, 2017 02:55
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Funky See Funky Do posted:Crafting is exactly the same thing except you're saving up currency with a different icon and adding a few extra points of clicking before your purchase. At the moment where you are exchanging money for goods or exchanging/transforming ingredients into goods yes the transaction feels the same but how you go about earning money and collecting ingredients can be very different, if only because money is typically earned and spent universally whereas ingredients are from and for specific things. Lots of changes to various gameplay incentives if I have to kill sharks for 12 Shark Teeth to craft the Ultimate Shark Destroyer Trident vs. killing a bunch of different enemies who drop a universal currency and buying the Ultimate Shark Destroyer Trident.
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Mar 16, 2017 02:56
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Someone link to a good multiplayer stream? My download won't be finished until after bedtime and I don't wanna waste trial time with a partially downloaded game but I still wanna scratch the andromeda itch
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Mar 16, 2017 02:57
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SgtSteel91 posted:I feel like I'm witnessing what happened when Dragon Age 2 came out This actually feels worse to me. A lot of DA2's badness was the reusing of areas later in the game. This is baked-in lovely design decisions from the start.
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Mar 16, 2017 02:58
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Stylised animation = a flapping mouth and eyes that track incorrectly attached to a stationary mannequin.
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Good Dumplings posted:No, I'm saying Ryder's has no animations beyond the lips. Look at something beyond the lips, look at any animations they do that aren't just audio cues. Andromeda characters either emote or speak, but very very rarely do both at the same time; you should link some examples where you feel they're doing both so we can see why you think the faces aren't creepy as balls. I would just be using the same gifs you're using, which is dumb.  Like in this image, I could draw a line over his eyes / eye brows, and they don't move at all. They just match what you're used too more, and have a better angle to hide it.
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PSA for anyone arguing with turtlicious. It's a troll.Ainsley McTree posted:Someone link to a good multiplayer stream? My download won't be finished until after bedtime and I don't wanna waste trial time with a partially downloaded game but I still wanna scratch the andromeda itch https://www.twitch.tv/teawrex
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new phone who dis posted:This actually feels worse to me. A lot of DA2's badness was the reusing of areas later in the game. This is baked-in lovely design decisions from the start. Also DA2 was a rush job and everyone knew it. When they started talking about another Dragon Age I remember being really surprised. They've been teasing this for like... what, 5 years?
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Mar 16, 2017 02:59
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I mean the ME:A animations are closer to this. ohgod the horror?
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Mar 16, 2017 03:00
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Scene_of_Ciri_being_sad.gif vs Ryder_saying_her_dad_died.gif "But what's the difference hurrr"
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Mar 16, 2017 03:00
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BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:Scene_of_Ciri_being_sad.gif vs Ryder_saying_her_dad_died.gif Ciri was supposed to be sad in that scene? Christ.
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Mar 16, 2017 03:01
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Is mass effect even popular with young children?
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Mar 16, 2017 03:02
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the multiplayer is fine its what i expected
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Digirat posted:PSA for anyone arguing with turtlicious. It's a troll. Thank you! There's a warning at the beginning saying that this is only for mature audiences so I'm sorry that most of this thread can't join
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:Is mass effect even popular with young children? Yes, it is also popular with the 18 - 25 demographic.
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Mar 16, 2017 03:02
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lol at everything
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Mar 16, 2017 03:03
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Turtlicious posted:Ciri was supposed to be sad in that scene? Are you capable of clocking human emotion that is not dialed up to a wacky SNL 10?
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Mar 16, 2017 03:03
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eonwe posted:the multiplayer is fine Intriguing
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Mar 16, 2017 03:03
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my recommendation is to skip this game and go play Nier Automata instead
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AngryBooch posted:
this. yeah inquestion had issues and hiccups with graphics, but the faces were fine and decent, even good in some cases. what the gently caress happend?
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Lobok posted:At the moment where you are exchanging money for goods or exchanging/transforming ingredients into goods yes the transaction feels the same but how you go about earning money and collecting ingredients can be very different, if only because money is typically earned and spent universally whereas ingredients are from and for specific things. Lots of changes to various gameplay incentives if I have to kill sharks for 12 Shark Teeth to craft the Ultimate Shark Destroyer Trident vs. killing a bunch of different enemies who drop a universal currency and buying the Ultimate Shark Destroyer Trident. Sure, but 90% of crafting systems aren't that. This one definitely not that. E: I didn't hate the crafting system in Far Cry 3/4 because it was sort of what you said. It encouraged going out and hunting different types of animals and if you wanted you could go out and craft anything you wanted before even doing any of the main game. Funky See Funky Do fucked around with this message at 03:07 on Mar 16, 2017 |
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Turtlicious posted:I would just be using the same gifs you're using, which is dumb. That is a bad animation though, you need to find something good as opposed to saying "everything else is bad so it's okay this one thing is total garbage". Find a good animation in Andromeda. It's a painful experience but I'm sure it's possible.
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