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cowofwar
Jul 30, 2002

by Athanatos

DariusLikewise posted:

This thread loves to jerk each other off about how progressive they are, but when something comes up that slightly challenges a traditional way of thinking you all pile on it like a bunch of angry conservative Facebook posters.
:rolleyes:

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PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

Baronjutter posted:

Yeah can we seriously just launch the people responsible for daylight savings into the sun which they seem so obsessed with?

The problem isn't daylight savings time, it's the switch back -- which is why Saskatchewan is geographically located in a place that should follow Mountain time, but observes Central Standard Time (UTC -6) year-round :eng101:

Also, anything that has to be done cross-time-zone should be done with UTC instead of making me figure out what loving time difference I need to deal with every time. gently caress printing time on boarding passes with airport local time especially.

Jordan7hm
Feb 17, 2011




Lipstick Apathy

DariusLikewise posted:

This thread loves to jerk each other off about how progressive they are, but when something comes up that slightly challenges a traditional way of thinking you all pile on it like a bunch of angry conservative Facebook posters.

I think a bunch of people in this thread are only progressive when compared to 99% of the population, which is nowhere near progressive enough to hang itt.


namaste faggots posted:

I'm toxxing myself to vote for whatever dipshit the BC liberals are running in Mt pleasant because gently caress all of you. You all loving deserve the regressive loving bullshit and corruption Christy Clark has the loving nerve to commit.

You're voting? Why.

EvilJoven
Mar 18, 2005

NOBODY,IN THE HISTORY OF EVER, HAS ASKED OR CARED WHAT CANADA THINKS. YOU ARE NOT A COUNTRY. YOUR MONEY HAS THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND ON IT. IF YOU DIG AROUND IN YOUR BACKYARD, NATIVE SKELETONS WOULD EXPLODE OUT OF YOUR LAWN LIKE THE END OF POLTERGEIST. CANADA IS SO POLITE, EH?
Fun Shoe
Spite can be a very powerful motivator.

Nine of Eight
Apr 28, 2011


LICK IT OFF, AND PUT IT BACK IN
Dinosaur Gum
I RSVP'D for the NDP debate in Montreal on Sunday after next. On the off chance they let me near a microphone, any questions you would like to see asked?

Postess with the Mostest
Apr 4, 2007

Arabian nights
'neath Arabian moons
A fool off his guard
could fall and fall hard
out there on the dunes

Nine of Eight posted:

I RSVP'D for the NDP debate in Montreal on Sunday after next. On the off chance they let me near a microphone, any questions you would like to see asked?

If you had to choose between your child turning out transgender or vegan, which would you pick and why?

Rime
Nov 2, 2011

by Games Forum

Nine of Eight posted:

I RSVP'D for the NDP debate in Montreal on Sunday after next. On the off chance they let me near a microphone, any questions you would like to see asked?

"We've heard enough about the Middle Class, what will you do to improve conditions for lower and working class Canadians?"

toe knee hand
Jun 20, 2012

HANSEN ON A BREAKAWAY

HONEY BADGER DON'T SCORE

Nine of Eight posted:

I RSVP'D for the NDP debate in Montreal on Sunday after next. On the off chance they let me near a microphone, any questions you would like to see asked?

Who should own the means of production?

Jump King
Aug 10, 2011

Nine of Eight posted:

I RSVP'D for the NDP debate in Montreal on Sunday after next. On the off chance they let me near a microphone, any questions you would like to see asked?

Marry/gently caress/Kill Leitch, O'Leary, Harper

cowofwar
Jul 30, 2002

by Athanatos

Rime posted:

"We've heard enough about the Middle Class, what will you do to improve conditions for lower and working class Canadians?"

Jump King
Aug 10, 2011

The BLM twitter responded to Niki Ashton

https://twitter.com/BLM_Van/status/842216499439792130

It's ok, btter than the initial one but still seems to miss the point a bit

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

Postess with the Mostest posted:

If you had to choose between your child turning out transgender or vegan, which would you pick and why?

Definitely transgender. Not even a close call. You can't make someone not be trans, but if your kid turns vegan on you, you hosed up as a parent. Also trans people are way more pleasant to deal with because, among other things, you can have a normal loving meal with them.

PT6A fucked around with this message at 04:38 on Mar 16, 2017

RealityWarCriminal
Aug 10, 2016

:o:

Nine of Eight posted:

I RSVP'D for the NDP debate in Montreal on Sunday after next. On the off chance they let me near a microphone, any questions you would like to see asked?

Full communism when?

Lightning Lord
Feb 21, 2013

$200 a day, plus expenses

Nine of Eight posted:

I RSVP'D for the NDP debate in Montreal on Sunday after next. On the off chance they let me near a microphone, any questions you would like to see asked?

Was Mulcair actually always drunk, or did he just look like it?

Juul-Whip
Mar 10, 2008

Why do you think Thomas Mulcair lost the election and what will you do differently to win this one?

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

PT6A posted:

Definitely transgender. Not even a close call. You can't make someone not be trans, but if your kid turns vegan on you, you hosed up as a parent. Also trans people are way more pleasant to deal with because, among other things, you can have a normal loving meal with them.

And a trans person is much less likely to try and convert you.

Jimbozig
Sep 30, 2003

I like sharing and ice cream and animals.

Lightning Lord posted:

No, being passionate is absolutely fine and in fact necessary, but I think Bernie Sanders style populism wins more votes. Like I said, critical race theory should be the basis for social policy but it needs to be interpreted in an easy to understand, populist way for the masses, like it or not. Otherwise to the average person it sounds like petty gobbledygook.

Let me start by saying I agree with you. White privilege and patriarchy are real, but those terms are misleading. (I think intentionally misleading - certainly intentionally provocative. But that's a post for another day.) In politics, one should describe the problem in plain english and never, ever use those loaded terms. Those terms act like wedges to split apart the constituencies the left needs to win in order to have electoral success. Those terms are fine for some contexts, but politics is not one. So we are in agreement there.

But I don't think that's the extent of the problem in this case. If critical theory really says that it is morally wrong (or even "problematic") for white people to quote Beyonce songs, then critical theory is downright hosed and no new way of phrasing things will make up for that. Seriously - some people ITT are defending BLM Van's statement that white people shouldn't quote Beyonce. Where does it end? This isn't even a slippery slope fallacy, positing an absurd endpoint that no one has espoused - "white people should stay away from those negro songs" is plenty absurd enough. It is the fetid pile of pigshit at the bottom of this slimy lovely slope, and whoever runs the BLM_YVR Twitter account is wallowing down there. I'm just saying we should watch where we are standing or else we'll end up down there with them and the segregationists.

Now, I don't have any problem with Niki Ashton. I don't give a gently caress that she deleted it. Whatever, it's just a dumb meme, who cares. I also don't blame BLM generally, since as far as I know there is no such thing as "BLM generally." From what I've read on these forums, every local BLM group is its own little island, beholden to no one. The fact that there is no overarching organization means that there is no oversight group who can step in to keep things on topic when their crazier members start talking about mystical melanin powers and other racist poo poo. BLM as a whole is fighting to make sure white people stop killing and abusing black people - that's a good fight, and a more important one than most of the poo poo we talk about here in this thread.

cowofwar
Jul 30, 2002

by Athanatos

Jimbozig posted:

Let me start by saying I agree with you. White privilege and patriarchy are real, but those terms are misleading. (I think intentionally misleading - certainly intentionally provocative. But that's a post for another day.) In politics, one should describe the problem in plain english and never, ever use those loaded terms. Those terms act like wedges to split apart the constituencies the left needs to win in order to have electoral success. Those terms are fine for some contexts, but politics is not one. So we are in agreement there.

But I don't think that's the extent of the problem in this case. If critical theory really says that it is morally wrong (or even "problematic") for white people to quote Beyonce songs, then critical theory is downright hosed and no new way of phrasing things will make up for that. Seriously - some people ITT are defending BLM Van's statement that white people shouldn't quote Beyonce. Where does it end? This isn't even a slippery slope fallacy, positing an absurd endpoint that no one has espoused - "white people should stay away from those negro songs" is plenty absurd enough. It is the fetid pile of pigshit at the bottom of this slimy lovely slope, and whoever runs the BLM_YVR Twitter account is wallowing down there. I'm just saying we should watch where we are standing or else we'll end up down there with them and the segregationists.

Now, I don't have any problem with Niki Ashton. I don't give a gently caress that she deleted it. Whatever, it's just a dumb meme, who cares. I also don't blame BLM generally, since as far as I know there is no such thing as "BLM generally." From what I've read on these forums, every local BLM group is its own little island, beholden to no one. The fact that there is no overarching organization means that there is no oversight group who can step in to keep things on topic when their crazier members start talking about mystical melanin powers and other racist poo poo. BLM as a whole is fighting to make sure white people stop killing and abusing black people - that's a good fight, and a more important one than most of the poo poo we talk about here in this thread.
Are there even black people in Canada or is someone having a giggle?

Jump King
Aug 10, 2011

I think in the context of the tweet, BLM intentionally antagonizes white people and politicians for various reasons. Their thread afterwards indicated that this was just part of a larger criticism of Ashton (which it doesn't appear to be and also doesn't really follow) and basically accuses her of talking the talk without walking the walk. Their goal in this case is to keep white politicians who they support honest and on level, but they're not doing a great job of it in this case.

Lightning Lord
Feb 21, 2013

$200 a day, plus expenses

Jimbozig posted:

Let me start by saying I agree with you. White privilege and patriarchy are real, but those terms are misleading. (I think intentionally misleading - certainly intentionally provocative. But that's a post for another day.) In politics, one should describe the problem in plain english and never, ever use those loaded terms. Those terms act like wedges to split apart the constituencies the left needs to win in order to have electoral success. Those terms are fine for some contexts, but politics is not one. So we are in agreement there.

But I don't think that's the extent of the problem in this case. If critical theory really says that it is morally wrong (or even "problematic") for white people to quote Beyonce songs, then critical theory is downright hosed and no new way of phrasing things will make up for that. Seriously - some people ITT are defending BLM Van's statement that white people shouldn't quote Beyonce. Where does it end? This isn't even a slippery slope fallacy, positing an absurd endpoint that no one has espoused - "white people should stay away from those negro songs" is plenty absurd enough. It is the fetid pile of pigshit at the bottom of this slimy lovely slope, and whoever runs the BLM_YVR Twitter account is wallowing down there. I'm just saying we should watch where we are standing or else we'll end up down there with them and the segregationists.

Now, I don't have any problem with Niki Ashton. I don't give a gently caress that she deleted it. Whatever, it's just a dumb meme, who cares. I also don't blame BLM generally, since as far as I know there is no such thing as "BLM generally." From what I've read on these forums, every local BLM group is its own little island, beholden to no one. The fact that there is no overarching organization means that there is no oversight group who can step in to keep things on topic when their crazier members start talking about mystical melanin powers and other racist poo poo. BLM as a whole is fighting to make sure white people stop killing and abusing black people - that's a good fight, and a more important one than most of the poo poo we talk about here in this thread.

Critical race theory doesn't say that. That's people's hosed up interpretation of it. My point is that just saying academic theories to the general public is not going to work.

cowofwar posted:

Are there even black people in Canada or is someone having a giggle?

Never been to Toronto?

cowofwar
Jul 30, 2002

by Athanatos

Lightning Lord posted:

Critical race theory doesn't say that. That's people's hosed up interpretation of it. My point is that just saying academic theories to the general public is not going to work.


Never been to Toronto?
I work in Toronto, I only see Canadians.

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe

cowofwar posted:

Are there even black people in Canada or is someone having a giggle?

only in africville and thanks to the hospitality and openmindedness of haligonians, they've all integrated, forming a strong and happy community!

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

MMM Whatchya Say posted:

I think in the context of the tweet, BLM intentionally antagonizes white people and politicians for various reasons.

perhaps their critics should try paying attention to those reasons

Lightning Lord posted:

No, being passionate is absolutely fine and in fact necessary, but I think Bernie Sanders style populism wins more votes. Like I said, critical race theory should be the basis for social policy but it needs to be interpreted in an easy to understand, populist way for the masses, like it or not. Otherwise to the average person it sounds like petty gobbledygook.

populism can be a pretty dangerous game to play, but it's probably better if the left starts doing it before the idiot machine starts revving up in full

Yinlock fucked around with this message at 05:51 on Mar 16, 2017

Postess with the Mostest
Apr 4, 2007

Arabian nights
'neath Arabian moons
A fool off his guard
could fall and fall hard
out there on the dunes

Yinlock posted:

perhaps their critics should try paying attention to those reasons

Shadow funding by the Koch brothers to make the left look ridiculous is the most obvious reason right?

The Butcher
Apr 20, 2005

Well, at least we tried.
Nap Ghost

namaste faggots posted:

I'm toxxing myself to vote

I am disappointed in your lack of commitment to your shtick.

cowofwar
Jul 30, 2002

by Athanatos
Vancouver bulldozed a historic low income black neighborhood for the viaducts.

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

Postess with the Mostest posted:

Shadow funding by the Koch brothers to make the left look ridiculous is the most obvious reason right?

i figured reason #1 was "stop pointlessly being a dick to black people"

this is a pretty well-tread argument though

cowofwar
Jul 30, 2002

by Athanatos
DID SOMEONE SAY FALSE FLAG?

The Butcher
Apr 20, 2005

Well, at least we tried.
Nap Ghost

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

cowofwar posted:

DID SOMEONE SAY FALSE FLAG?

SOROS YOU CRAFTY FIEND


how do we stop these idiots anyway, they just won't shut up about imaginary muslim invaders

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

I like that you have to already be racist to get the message they're going for, because they don't actually say that there would be anything bad about having mosques in your community.

Rime
Nov 2, 2011

by Games Forum
Y'know, saying blacks stick to black culture and whites to white culture is really just old school right-wing bigotry. If you took a moment to stop and think about things you'd come upon the notion that, if you are wealthy and powerful right-wing racists who want to segregate whites and blacks, you don't take it on yourself and have it rejected by society in TYOOL 2017; instead you get a radical black rights group to suggest your policy and it will be embraced and you get your way.

But the modern regressive left is too busy huffing the contents of its own rear end in pursuit of ever-greater victimization, and scrambling over one another to apologize for such, that they can't see the forest for the fuckin' trees here. As god is my witness, do I ever loving hate millenials for making this the hill of populism which they will die upon.

Just shut off the internet for the good of the human race at this point. :fuckoff:

vyelkin posted:

I like that you have to already be racist to get the message they're going for, because they don't actually say that there would be anything bad about having mosques in your community.

On a less angry note, I legitimately wish Canadian mosques broadcast. One of the most delightful things about Turkey was waking up to the morning call to prayer and falling asleep just after the evening, especially in the smaller towns where they did not have loudspeakers and it was just several people on towers singing into the wind. :3:

Rime fucked around with this message at 06:25 on Mar 16, 2017

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

Rime posted:

But the modern regressive left is too busy huffing the contents of its own rear end in pursuit of ever-greater victimization, and scrambling over one another to apologize for such, that they can't see the forest for the fuckin' trees here.

I don't think this is actually happening

Chicken
Apr 23, 2014


The only thing I'm taking from this is that Islamophobes should vote Communist,

Juul-Whip
Mar 10, 2008

Nine of Eight posted:

I RSVP'D for the NDP debate in Montreal on Sunday after next. On the off chance they let me near a microphone, any questions you would like to see asked?

Do you consider yourself a socialist? What does socialism mean to you?

MikeSevigny
Aug 6, 2002

Habs 2006: Cristobal Persuasion

Please, there's as many Tim Hortons in downtown Hamilton as there are mosques in that photo. I think the Canadian mosque:donut ratio is safe for the foreseeable future.

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

MikeSevigny posted:

Please, there's as many Tim Hortons in downtown Hamilton as there are mosques in that photo. I think the Canadian mosque:donut ratio is safe for the foreseeable future.

I think the answer here is more tim hortons

Tochiazuma
Feb 16, 2007

MikeSevigny posted:

Please, there's as many Tim Hortons in downtown Hamilton as there are mosques in that photo. I think the Canadian mosque:donut ratio is safe for the foreseeable future.

Hmm 17 Tim Hortons and 1 mosque in my hometown. To get to a 1:1 ratio is either going to take a lot of mosque building or Timmy closures.

Wait... that's it! MAH GAWD THERE GONNA MAKE THE TIMMYS INTO MOSQUES

Playstation 4
Apr 25, 2014
Unlockable Ben

EvilJoven posted:

As a pilot I highly endorse the use of ICAO codes in common language and propose we move beyond that to referring to all locations that don't have an airport as being so many nautical miles on whatever radial from the closest VOR.

As a person who works in shipping and logistics, I agree wholeheartedly.

Also, i petition heretofore that the airport code of Yellowknife be changed to YYK. It's unused and more fitting, my hometown deserves it.

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Stretch Marx
Apr 29, 2008

I'm ok with this.

Tochiazuma posted:

Hmm 17 Tim Hortons and 1 mosque in my hometown. To get to a 1:1 ratio is either going to take a lot of mosque building or Timmy closures.

Wait... that's it! MAH GAWD THERE GONNA MAKE THE TIMMYS INTO MOSQUES

Are these loaded potato wedges halal?

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