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Orange Red Bull posted:I like the explosive decompression and vacuum exposure from Event Horizon better but I suppose we dont really have any frame of reference and just medical theory. The closest would be this as far as anyone knows. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soyuz_11
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Orange Red Bull posted:I like the explosive decompression and vacuum exposure from Event Horizon better but I suppose we dont really have any frame of reference and just medical theory. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soyuz_11 This video is more germane to the question of "what happens if you go into space with a bad suit?": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KO8L9tKR4CY Here's an article with some other examples as well: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/survival-in-space-unprotected-possible/ ATP_Power fucked around with this message at 04:05 on Mar 16, 2017 |
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Mar 16, 2017 04:01
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Do not gently caress with Drummer. 
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Orange Red Bull posted:I like the explosive decompression and vacuum exposure from Event Horizon better but I suppose we dont really have any frame of reference and just medical theory. Yes, they have. Three cosmonauts died during reentry when Soyuz 11 depressurized while they were getting ready to reenter; with three people on board, there wasn't room for them to wear pressure suits. Also, a NASA tester was exposed to full vacuum when during an accident in a decompression chamber, but he survived. You don't explode. Your blood doesn't boil (but some dissolved gases will leave solution, which means you can get the bends, but since you were only at 1 atmosphere of pressure in the first place, at most, it'll be minor compared to the cases that pressurized divers get). Oxygen will diffuse out of your lungs into the vacuum and then when that deoxygenated blood hits your brain it's lights out, so you've got about 15 seconds at most of useful consciousness. Your lungs collapse since there's nothing to inflate them and the moisture wetting your alveoli boils off (ditto the rest of your mucous membranes). Then a minute or so later you go into circulatory failure. Then your brain dies from lack of O2.
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Strategic Tea posted:Surely we can all agree the belters are the coolest guys in the setting? *huffs vaccuum* Yeaaaah....
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Mar 16, 2017 04:44
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Yeah, the show totally did Prax's intro and the "severing ties with Fred" better than the books. For non-bookies re: Prax The split between book 1 and 2 is dumb. Eros crashes into Venus, Protogen is broken up and book 2: Mars and Earth are full cold war again, Holden is hunting pirates. Ganymede goes down almost exactly like the show. Bobbie fights Proto-monster, war breaks out in orbit, the mirrors fall. In the books Prax stays on Ganymede, as it falls apart, looking for his daughter. Holden n Crew are sent to Ganymede by Fred to help with the refugee effort and they meet Prax when Holden steps in to stop a food riot.
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Mar 16, 2017 05:07
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I always had a good feeling about Drummer and she's kinda the best.
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Mar 16, 2017 05:14
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Drummer gonna Drummer. Also Amos, whenever Alex trieds to make him less self-desructive. "We can't get into a fight. Then who would fly the ship?"
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Wow, that was crazy. I like how many times I was surprised this episode.Snuffman posted:Yeah, the show totally did Prax's intro and the "severing ties with Fred" better than the books. And Drummer is up there with Dawes and Diogo for background characters in the book that the show just took and ran with in a fantastic direction.
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Mar 16, 2017 06:01
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That spacing. 
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Accretionist posted:That spacing. Everyone is so blasé about mass murder in this show.
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Mar 16, 2017 06:06
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I loved the correct orientation of the elevator to the hull. It's the little details that sell it. Also, Amos' little facial ticks during his argument with Alex were practically a whole side conversation.
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Mar 16, 2017 06:16
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MiddleOne posted:Everyone is so blasé about mass murder in this show. Relevant film quote: "charging a man with murder in this place was like handing out speeding tickets in the Indy 500."
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Mar 16, 2017 06:17
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The Belters are a failed society and need a heavy inner hand to keep them from not mass-murdering inners and each others or launching random nukes trying to kill millions. I think the tattoo ink they use is toxic and has hosed up their brains. Fred Johnson is too good for them. Purge Dawes and his followers and install Fred as governor of all the belt.
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Mar 16, 2017 06:17
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Mar 16, 2017 06:22
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De-populate the belt, if all it's for is resource extraction then use automated tugs and pull asteroids/chunks in from the belt to earth/mars orbit and take them apart there. Never have to hear some twiggy idiot whinging on about oppression while loving over or outright murdering his fellow belter and his only idea for a better future is launching random nukes at earth. If you took away their blind hate and blame of inners and granted them full independence they'd be killing each other off in a matter of years.
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Mar 16, 2017 06:26
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How did it even get occupied? Did letting employees reproduce on-site cut fuel costs? Did they figure a network of floating company towns would be cheaper than a lights-out processing apparatus?
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Mar 16, 2017 06:42
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Baronjutter posted:De-populate the belt, if all it's for is resource extraction then use automated tugs and pull asteroids/chunks in from the belt to earth/mars orbit and take them apart there. Never have to hear some twiggy idiot whinging on about oppression while loving over or outright murdering his fellow belter and his only idea for a better future is launching random nukes at earth. If you took away their blind hate and blame of inners and granted them full independence they'd be killing each other off in a matter of years. I didn't know King Leopold II posted on these forums.
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ATP_Power posted:I didn't know King Leopold II posted on these forums. One-handed workers are bad workers.
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Mar 16, 2017 07:02
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Holy poo poo Drummer owns. Also I love Alex's reaction in that scene.
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Mar 16, 2017 08:43
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I'm surprised the belter pilot didn't turn the ship and cook the bodies with the main engine.
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Mar 16, 2017 08:48
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Loved Mei's backpack. That poo poo is awesome.
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Edit away....You can see the Martian Marines that Mei is waving at, nice attention to detail there. Solid ep there. <3 Drummer takes no poo poo. Collateral fucked around with this message at 10:37 on Mar 16, 2017 |
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Mar 16, 2017 10:31
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Those Space Cajuns got shot right in their drat heads.
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Zorak of Michigan posted:I loved the correct orientation of the elevator to the hull. It's the little details that sell it. Also, Amos' little facial ticks during his argument with Alex were practically a whole side conversation. And they knock out the control room by turning up the CO2 scrubbers, which makes me so very happy. Attention to detail all over this place.
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Strom Cuzewon posted:And they knock out the control room by turning up the CO2 scrubbers, which makes me so very happy. Attention to detail all over this place. Yeah, how exactly did that work?
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Collateral posted:Edit away....You can see the Martian Marines that Mei is waving at, nice attention to detail there. The genocidal Belter ship is visible in the exterior shots at Tycho. counterfeitsaint posted:Yeah, how exactly did that work? The human breathing reflex is triggered by a buildup up carbon dioxide, not a lack of oxygen. If a person breathes air that is poor in oxygen but not rich in carbon dioxide, they’ll feel nothing unusual till they just pass out. On Earth, this can occur in environments like caves (methane displaces oxygen), industrial facilities (could be anything, commonly nitrogen or argon), or even the chain lockers on large ships—the oxygen bonds with the iron of the chain as it rusts. Platystemon fucked around with this message at 12:30 on Mar 16, 2017 |
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So the botanist is a new character for whoever played Miller in the PnP game right? Jeez dude write a new back story.
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Platystemon posted:or even the chain lockers on large ships—the oxygen bonds with the iron of the chain as it rusts. I was familiar with the caves and stuff, but jesus, this is the stuff of nightmares. I would never have thought rusty chains would be a suffocation hazard.
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Woden posted:So the botanist is a new character for whoever played Miller in the PnP game right? Jeez dude write a new back story. Same haircut, too.  Drummer is a beast. Big fan of Mei and Prax.
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So why was Johnson so pissed off with Holden at the end? That seemed pretty out of left-field. They had one disagreement about the feasibility of going to Ganymede. Hardly seems like the thing that would push him into revoking their right to dock at the station.
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:So why was Johnson so pissed off with Holden at the end? That seemed pretty out of left-field. They had one disagreement about the feasibility of going to Ganymede. Hardly seems like the thing that would push him into revoking their right to dock at the station. It was dumber in the book dont complain
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:So why was Johnson so pissed off with Holden at the end? That seemed pretty out of left-field. They had one disagreement about the feasibility of going to Ganymede. Hardly seems like the thing that would push him into revoking their right to dock at the station. I'm not sure. Did Holden's actions at the little debate between Dawes and Johnson maybe precipitate the attempted coup in this episode? That was my thoughts but I'm not sure how good my memory is.
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Phi230 posted:It was dumber in the book dont complain Fair enough. It seemed pretty dumb. How'd it go down in the books?
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:So why was Johnson so pissed off with Holden at the end? That seemed pretty out of left-field. They had one disagreement about the feasibility of going to Ganymede. Hardly seems like the thing that would push him into revoking their right to dock at the station. WhiskeyWhiskers posted:Fair enough. It seemed pretty dumb. How'd it go down in the books? Lord Hydronium fucked around with this message at 14:36 on Mar 16, 2017 |
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:Fair enough. It seemed pretty dumb. How'd it go down in the books? Holden thinks the protomolecule is loose on ganymede and he melodramatically overreacts and he barges into Freds office yelling at him because he thinks Fred is gonna pull an Eros , then he gets fired by Fred who suddenly hates him apparently , oh and also Naomi and Holden break up for no reason. Everyone suddenly just gets dramatic and characters jump to conclusions and overreact in unrealistically stupid ways. Its hard to explain without reading it
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You could really just tell the author just wrote himself into a corner and pulled out some bullshit to change the story
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In the books, Holden has been working for the OPA for a year or so as a pirate hunter. Him and Fred argue about Ganymede as Phi230 said. Unfortunately, it looks like the show cut the bit where Fred just tears Holden to bits, because it doesn't fit at all with the compressed plot. “You gave me the only sample we knew of. But you assume that if you don’t know about it, it doesn’t exist. I’ve been putting up with your bullshit for over a year now. This idea you have that the universe owes you answers. This righteous indignation you wield like a club at everyone around you. But I don’t have to put up with your poo poo."
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I like tje books dont get me wrong but at least in books 1 and 2 the characters personalities and motivations are fluid as to the needs of the overall plot so you get really dumb needless drama that comes from nowhere. Like the whole "Holden is turning into Miller" thing is sooo bad because he uncharacteristically overreacts in the worst possible ways and then everyone around him uncharacteristically overreact to him in the worst ways. It very much screams amateur RPG acting
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