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Lumpy the Cook posted:There's a pretty substantial correlation between people who really vocally like Bioware games and vocally hate the Witcher. Come to think of it, I don't think I've really seen much vocal dislike of the Witcher anywhere except discussions of Bioware games, DA:I in particular. Why is this? I've noticed this too. I like Bioware games but had a really hard time getting into the Witcher and I am genuinely at a loss as to why because I should like both.
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First conversation between Vetra and Liam come across like they've been forced to work together for weeks and hate each other's guts. Basically everything in this game character development wise feels like I missed an episode or three of the TV show and people have "history" they need to work out.
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Mar 16, 2017 20:33
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Any way (now or in a week) to play a demo without pre-buying? I want to see if my really old PC can run this on low settings or not.
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Mar 16, 2017 20:33
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Bobulus posted:Any way (now or in a week) to play a demo without pre-buying? I want to see if my really old PC can run this on low settings or not. Origin Access it 5 bucks for a month and gets you access to all their vault titles and trials. Trials are ten hours of playtime with a content cap.
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so, uh... RIP Bioware? I haven't really been paying that much attention but it kind of seems like the hype for this game just completely and hilariously deflated in the past couple of days, at least judging by my facebook friends (who are usually pretty Bioware-friendly and were obsessed with DA:I)
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Mar 16, 2017 20:34
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Josuke Higashikata posted:Reminds me a lot of FF13 talk really. FF13's combat is still the best system of any of those games.
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I enjoyed my 10 hour trial of Andromeda. Gonna enjoy playing the rest. I hope I don't have to choose a color at the end. This will be my last visit to this thread (as far as you know). Love long and prosper.
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Zzulu posted:aint gonna comment on story or characters yet but the bitching about animations has so far been completely ridiculous from what I've seen of the game. They're easily on par with any other Mass Effect and in many cases better. A lot of the lolgifs never even happened in my game, like the stairswalk thing and the one thing I did see, the blue asari weirdface, lasted for about one third of a second all the stilted cutscenes were as presented here when i tried it on a friend's machine, i dunno what to tell you. it was an absolute laugh riot to play, way better than watching second-hand i hope everyone enjoys whatever the outcome of this game is, i ain't got a horse in this race
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Dexo posted:FF13's combat is still the best system of any of those games. Quite possibly, yeah. At least, once you have all the toys to play with. (Which is around 20 hours in, funny that.)
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marshmallow creep posted:First conversation between Vetra and Liam come across like they've been forced to work together for weeks and hate each other's guts. If I trusted the writers I'd say this is a good thing; since these characters have a pre-existing relationship it makes sense that the audience would join them in the middle of it, then the game could artfully explore it for us in a way that still makes sense for the characters in game However,
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Lumpy the Cook posted:There's a pretty substantial correlation between people who really vocally like Bioware games and vocally hate the Witcher. Come to think of it, I don't think I've really seen much vocal dislike of the Witcher anywhere except discussions of Bioware games, DA:I in particular. Why is this? As far as I can tell, it's because its significantly different in structure. Bioware uses a blank slate protagonist, along with a palette of romance options for any sexuality. Players can Mary Sue to their heart's content. Witcher games use an established protagonist with a backstory that is literally novels long. Geralt has relationships, opinions, and motivations independent of the player. You can't turn Geralt into an evil mastermind, you can just chose which aspects of his personality are emphasized.
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:so, uh... RIP Bioware? I haven't really been paying that much attention but it kind of seems like the hype for this game just completely and hilariously deflated in the past couple of days, at least judging by my facebook friends (who are usually pretty Bioware-friendly and were obsessed with DA:I) I gotta admit, it would be funny to see Andromeda fail hard and drag Bioware down with it just to see who would step up and try to fill the niche they've been dominating for like a decade now.
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Lumpy the Cook posted:There's a pretty substantial correlation between people who really vocally like Bioware games and vocally hate the Witcher. Come to think of it, I don't think I've really seen much vocal dislike of the Witcher anywhere except discussions of Bioware games, DA:I in particular. Why is this? I have bounced off of all of the Witcher games I have played. I don't hate them, and acknowledge that they are really really well made games(Well 2 and 3 anyway) but man I could just never get through more than like 5 hours in any of those games.
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Serf posted:I gotta admit, it would be funny to see Andromeda fail hard and drag Bioware down with it just to see who would step up and try to fill the niche they've been dominating for like a decade now. I mean it seems like CD Projekt and Obsidian would be the obvious ones to do so
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frankly I would like a BioWare style game not made by BioWare if that makes any sense
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AwkwardKnob posted:Reddit post says "Good news: It's all fixable with quality of life patches in the upcoming months." You might be waiting forever. I can see the eyes and some of the shading issues getting fixed easily enough, but it seems like it would be a much bigger job to add a bunch of transitional animations, and to fix the popped out duck lips animation.
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Mar 16, 2017 20:40
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The greatest conceit by far in this thread is that anyone's opinions matter to anyone but themselves.
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Josuke Higashikata posted:Quite possibly, yeah. At least, once you have all the toys to play with. (Which is around 20 hours in, funny that.) None of the final fantasy games I've played had remotely fun combat until at the very least 20 hours in, except for FFXIII which was fun all the way through, but got more fun once you got to choose your party.
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I wonder what games EA is going to give away to the people who preordered to apologize for this disaster of a launch. 
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:I mean it seems like CD Projekt and Obsidian would be the obvious ones to do so The former, sure. Cyberpunk 2077 is one of my most anticipated games because I love the IP and TW3 has bought them a ton of good will. Obsidian though seems more focused on making more retro RPGs like PoE, which I love, but are not the huge affairs that your Mass Effects and Dragon Ages are. If they wanted to do it though I would be totally onboard.
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:so, uh... RIP Bioware? I haven't really been paying that much attention but it kind of seems like the hype for this game just completely and hilariously deflated in the past couple of days, at least judging by my facebook friends (who are usually pretty Bioware-friendly and were obsessed with DA:I) Deflated is underselling it. Perception of this game is tanking in a Brink-like way.
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Serf posted:The former, sure. Cyberpunk 2077 is one of my most anticipated games because I love the IP and TW3 has bought them a ton of good will. Obsidian though seems more focused on making more retro RPGs like PoE, which I love, but are not the huge affairs that your Mass Effects and Dragon Ages are. If they wanted to do it though I would be totally onboard. eh, Obsidian's done pretty much every kind of RPG except JRPGs and tabletop games (and even then they've adapted the latter a few times), I'd be entirely unsurprised if they took a break from retro RPGs to do another thing like Alpha Protocol or New Vegas
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Ainsley McTree posted:If I trusted the writers I'd say this is a good thing; since these characters have a pre-existing relationship it makes sense that the audience would join them in the middle of it, then the game could artfully explore it for us in a way that still makes sense for the characters in game Except they don't have a preexisting relationship since we only met Vetra after picking up the ship, and they only got to hang out and start working together when I picked Vetra for the squad instead of Cora. I did notice that Vetra does know Drack from before we arrived, and he her, so his intro changes to reflect that, and Drack doesn't make the "You humans are meat; you spoil." comment.
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Kirios posted:Deflated is underselling it. Perception of this game is tanking in a Brink-like way.  holy gently caress
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Serf posted:The former, sure. Cyberpunk 2077 is one of my most anticipated games because I love the IP and TW3 has bought them a ton of good will. Obsidian though seems more focused on making more retro RPGs like PoE, which I love, but are not the huge affairs that your Mass Effects and Dragon Ages are. If they wanted to do it though I would be totally onboard. I could be completely wrong, but I heard that a lot of the "classic" Obsidian staff left a few years ago. The team we are left with is obviously still good, though.
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I mean Obsidian is well known for out Biowaring Bioware. KoTOR 2 is p much a better and more interesting game than KoTOR 1, and if it wasn't for Lucas being unwilling to push it back it would have easily been better. Alpha Protocol took Mass Effect 1, put it in a spy universe and completely decimated Bioware on it's choice based storytelling. Not to mention the huge poo poo Obsidian took on Bethsada with New Vegas. Which is still better than their efforts in Fallout 4.
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Kirios posted:Deflated is underselling it. Perception of this game is tanking in a Brink-like way. I truly think that Brink fizzling out was a goddam tragedy and I wish it had gotten a chance to flourish and grow some more. Maybe this game deserves the same, but it had a LOT of time and money behind it to debut with a stronger first impression than this. Buck Wildman fucked around with this message at 20:47 on Mar 16, 2017 |
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:
this is only true if you use this thread as a template
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:
Yeah, welcome to Dragon Age 2: The Sequel.
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I loved Inquistion. I have over 200 hours logged on it. I also really, really liked Witcher 3, and have played it almost as long. I think I'll play it later today to wash the Andromeda taste out of my mouth. I feel unwell.
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Nazzadan posted:I could be completely wrong, but I heard that a lot of the "classic" Obsidian staff left a few years ago. The team we are left with is obviously still good, though. They lost Chris Avellone and one other big name who escapes me, but no Obsidian has not seen massive turnover. It also can't be emphasized enough that, despite the cult of personality around Avellone, he has never been responsible for writing whole games or even the majority of any game. He is a good writer (usually) but his influence is way overemphasized by a lot of people.
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:so, uh... RIP Bioware? I haven't really been paying that much attention but it kind of seems like the hype for this game just completely and hilariously deflated in the past couple of days, at least judging by my facebook friends (who are usually pretty Bioware-friendly and were obsessed with DA:I) It's because the viral marketing around ME: A has collapsed following the defection of the crucial thought leaders at Something Awful. All thanks to won special poster who outed EA's shill schemers. I like Mankind Divided as well, the last few months have been a good trip through the bargain bin.
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Kirios posted:Yeah, welcome to Dragon Age 2: The Sequel. Dragon Age 2 was garbage. This game is pretty okay.
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WoodrowSkillson posted:As far as I can tell, it's because its significantly different in structure. Bioware uses a blank slate protagonist, along with a palette of romance options for any sexuality. Players can Mary Sue to their heart's content. Geralt can sell her daughter for coins.
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PureRok posted:Dragon Age 2 was garbage. This game is pretty okay. Man I'm not sure how you can say that after watching some of the interactions and gameplay in the Giant Bomb video. I've moved from aggressively mediocre to this it not a very good game at all.
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Fojar38 posted:this is only true if you use this thread as a template I literally have not even looked at this thread until like last page, I'm judging based off how my facebook friends are reacting, and it is extremely negative and many of them are non-goons and pretty hardcore Bioware fans, and were outright hype as hell for this game until the past couple days, so it's not like they're biased against the company the way you could argue SA is
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Fojar38 posted:this is only true if you use this thread as a template real people who i talk to in real life have told me unsolicited that they think it's bad i think giving us a pre release look will go down in history as the biggest game hype blunder since john romero made us his bitch
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Mar 16, 2017 20:51
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Exactly, this is from multiple sources and multiple locations. Stop calling it SA overreacting. It's not.
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WoodrowSkillson posted:As far as I can tell, it's because its significantly different in structure. Bioware uses a blank slate protagonist, along with a palette of romance options for any sexuality. Players can Mary Sue to their heart's content. The game play is also quite different, real time twitch/quick time event style combat in witcher vs dragon age's tactical real time with pause party based combat. Other than both being fantasy rpg's they are really not all that similar at all.
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