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Handsome Ralph posted:Like how the gently caress do you measure "success" with that and meals on wheels? Food in schools was an attempt to not have scrawny malnourished people to feed into the army in case of a draft. Feeding Meemaw is just a nice thing to do, because you'd feel bad if Meemaw went hungry because she's home bound and doesn't have fam to feed her.
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Look we just can't justify spending any HARD EARNED TAX PAYER DOLLARS on PBS. Now let's talk about the $3 billion to start building a useless wall
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TBeats posted:does anyone have a decent list of government spending that should get curbed without loving people? defense is the obvious one, but what else? There are probably hundreds of such products, but it's all completely subjective.
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VikingSkull posted:I'm not saying that NASA isn't worthwhile, just that administration after administration has underutilized them. It's pretty clear that no one who matters is going to fund them to appropriate levels, so we're gonna have to rely on the private side to do the heavy lifting. Nah, because nobody wanted to compete with us for it. If Russia or China was really pushing a space program, NASA would be doing it. And to be fair: NASA is still the king of heavy lifters, even the Falcon Heavy doesn't have anything on the SLS.
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Godholio posted:There are probably hundreds of such products, but it's all completely subjective. has anyone ever done any good studies about reasonable budget cuts and how long it would take us to pay down $~20 trillion to a more reasonable level? or is that as realistic as unicorns?
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Defense is the elephant in the room but to do it would mean you accept the US taking a smaller role in world affairs and apparently no one really wants Russia and/or China to fill the void.CommieGIR posted:Nah, because nobody wanted to compete with us for it. If Russia or China was really pushing a space program, NASA would be doing it. No one is ever going to compete with us in space again. IMO it would be wiser to transition to private industry now while the rest of the world is barely able to get national space programs in the air. You'd have to be a pretty stupid nation to think "I want a space race with the nation who put men on the moon a half century ago" VikingSkull fucked around with this message at 20:41 on Mar 16, 2017 |
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VikingSkull posted:I'm not saying that NASA isn't worthwhile, just that administration after administration has underutilized them. It's pretty clear that no one who matters is going to fund them to appropriate levels, so we're gonna have to rely on the private side to do the heavy lifting. After this and the last couple of pages I feel confident in saying this- I don't like you on a personal level and you most likely don't get invited to many parties. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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VikingSkull posted:Defense is the elephant in the room but to do it would mean you accept the US taking a smaller role in world affairs and apparently no one really wants Russia and/or China to fill the void. Well.. no one except Alt-Right people and Trump.
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^ That Kudos to this woman for calling him out about feeding people. Edit:  This shouting match is completely professional.
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TBeats posted:has anyone ever done any good studies about reasonable budget cuts and how long it would take us to pay down $~20 trillion to a more reasonable level? or is that as realistic as unicorns? Inflation will take care of that for you in time, unless you increase spending (and inflation continues).
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TBeats posted:does anyone have a decent list of government spending that should get curbed without loving people? Aaaaand here's part of the problem. Why not increase tax revenue? Of course there are areas worth cutting, but there are some sick tax cuts over the years we could throw out.
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Lol Spicey playing the "YOU GUYS ONLY COVER WHEN WE DO BAD THING AND ARE PROVEN WRONG!"mlmp08 posted:Aaaaand here's part of the problem. Why not increase tax revenue? Because getting blood[money] from a stone[poor people] is impossible and lol if you think this admin would dream of passing taxes on anyone above a million dollar threshold.
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Its laughable that we want to spend more on the DoD while we still have the largest Fleet and Air arm in the world.
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lmao back to classic spicey this is what I tune in for
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windshipper posted:After this and the last couple of pages I feel confident in saying this- I don't like you on a personal level and you most likely don't get invited to many parties. I don't give a poo poo.
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windshipper posted:After this and the last couple of pages I feel confident in saying this- I don't like you on a personal level and you most likely don't get invited to many parties. holy poo poo no one cares about your worthless opinion, gently caress off
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mlmp08 posted:Aaaaand here's part of the problem. Why not increase tax revenue? fair enough. but shouldn't it need to be a little of column A, as well as a little of column B? i guess my question is (operating under the assumption that budget cuts are necessary to ever get the deficit to a surplus and bring the debt down) what are some relatively specific (oxymoron lol) areas that the government unnecessarily wastes money, aside from defense spending?
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CommieGIR posted:Its laughable that we want to spend more on the DoD while we still have the largest Fleet and Air arm in the world. And we fight so many goddamned wars and maintain a permanent presence in so many areas of the world that we're stretched super thin and wearing out our people and equipment faster than it can be replaced. You can keep gutting the military but if you don't roll back operational requirements we're going to end up with a hollow shell. You're also ignoring that so much of the world has completely gutted its own military forces because the US military could be relied upon.
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This is a press conference filibuster?
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Kung Fu Fist gently caress posted:holy poo poo no one cares about your worthless opinion, gently caress off Yeah that was dumb. Sorry.
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InAndOutBrennan posted:This is a press conference filibuster? yes
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I'm not even sure what his point is...this isn't proving anything.
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Godholio posted:I'm not even sure what his point is...this isn't proving anything. if you talk long enough, people forget what the question was
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Is he still doubling down on the wiretap claims?
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Please by nice to spicer. He was practicing this speech for a long time which is why he was late getting here.
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shyduck posted:Is he still doubling down on the wiretap claims? And Flynn. 
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shyduck posted:Is he still doubling down on the wiretap claims? It's practically cubic.
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KildarX posted:Because getting blood[money] from a stone[poor people] is impossible and lol if you think this admin would dream of passing taxes on anyone above a million dollar threshold. Sure, I just meant philosophically.
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Third World Reggin posted:Please by nice to spicer. He was practicing this speech for a long time which is why he was late getting here. Bullshit, my Coms1101 teacher didn't allow us to read verbatim from a prepared speech. Only let us use note cards.
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None of the NYT articles he cited support their claims This is beyond batshit
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TBeats posted:fair enough. but shouldn't it need to be a little of column A, as well as a little of column B? i guess my question is (operating under the assumption that budget cuts are necessary to ever get the deficit to a surplus and bring the debt down) what are some relatively specific (oxymoron lol) areas that the government unnecessarily wastes money, aside from defense spending? nah we really don't have much to cut from the federal budget that is actually wasteful. Is there some wasteful spending? Absolutely. Is it an appreciable amount of any budget? Outside of defense, not really. We are essentially a tax haven at this point, though, and continue to cut taxes for the wealthiest people for no reason.
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Godholio posted:And we fight so many goddamned wars and maintain a permanent presence in so many areas of the world that we're stretched super thin and wearing out our people and equipment faster than it can be replaced. Nobody is arguing gut the military, but we don't need $50 billion MORE spent on it! http://www.defenseone.com/ideas/2017/03/trumps-bigger-military-wont-necessarily-make-us-stronger-or-safer/136212/?oref=DefenseOneFB CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 20:54 on Mar 16, 2017 |
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Third World Reggin posted:Please by nice to spicer. He was practicing this speech for a long time which is why he was late getting here. so nervous he spilled his drink on his tie i'm trying to picture him in the bathroom mirror trying to dry it off under one of those air powered hand dry things.
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shyduck posted:None of the NYT articles he cited support their claims I am glad the other guy isn't the press secretary. It's a small blessing that Trump et al tend to be really bad at their jobs.
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Mr. Nice! posted:We are essentially a tax haven at this point, though, and continue to cut taxes for the wealthiest people for no reason.
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CommieGIR posted:Nobody is arguing gut the military, but we don't need $50 billion MORE spent on it! I am. We're still building tanks to park in the desert. We're still fighting a war in Afghanistan for no reason whatsoever. There are massive parts of the defense budget that could be cut.
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Mr. Nice! posted:I am. We're still building tanks to park in the desert. We're still fighting a war in Afghanistan for no reason whatsoever. There are massive parts of the defense budget that could be cut. We could simply take those funds and use them where needed. Instead of dumping more into it.
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