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Hasn't china been seriously ramping up its space program?
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Mar 16, 2017 22:19
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Yep. Doing a decent job so far, too. Edit: They're nowhere near on par with NASA, to be clear.
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Mar 16, 2017 22:20
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India also launched the most satellites in a single go, and ESA plopped a lander and an orbiter on a comet. Don't discount the rest of the world.
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Mar 16, 2017 22:21
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Missionary Positron posted:http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/mick-mulvaney-donald-trump-budget-meals-on-wheels-236144 Don't improve? NO FOOD FOR YOU
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Mar 16, 2017 22:25
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Mister Sinewave posted:It's almost as if something isn't 100% pure and correct and good, it is therefore equally and totally immoral and wrong. Which turns out lovely, lazy nihilist crybabies who won't lift a finger to try to make things better.
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Mar 16, 2017 22:29
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Missionary Positron posted:India also launched the most satellites in a single go, and ESA plopped a lander and an orbiter on a comet. There's a huge difference between having a space program and engaging in a space race. The US is head and shoulders above the rest of the world when it comes to space travel.
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Mar 16, 2017 22:29
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VikingSkull posted:There's a huge difference between having a space program and engaging in a space race. The US is head and shoulders above the rest of the world when it comes to space travel. True, I'm not disputing that. However, going around throwing statements how no one will EVER want to compete with the US in space, and win is pretty arrogant.
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Mar 16, 2017 22:52
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Last I recall, and it has been awhile, china has major issues with being able to produce the right materials at the right quality. They have to overcome that first.
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Mar 16, 2017 23:02
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VikingSkull posted:There's a huge difference between having a space program and engaging in a space race. The US is head and shoulders above the rest of the world when it comes to space travel. Yeah just look at all those rides we hitch on Soyuz. Head and Shoulders above who in human space flight? Because only the PRC and Russia are sending humans to space.
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Mar 16, 2017 23:25
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LtCol J. Krusinski posted:Yeah just look at all those rides we hitch on Soyuz. Head and Shoulders above who in human space flight? Because only the PRC and Russia are sending humans to space. That we know of :tfh:
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Mar 16, 2017 23:34
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Best Friends posted:You could also save a ton of money in DoD by auditing it but lol at any of the defense establishment / retired generals doing lobbying / fox news talking heads ever tolerating that. Quoted for fing truth.
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Mar 16, 2017 23:39
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So cutting meals on wheels, huh? All the death, none of the panels.
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Mar 16, 2017 23:39
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Missionary Positron posted:http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/mick-mulvaney-donald-trump-budget-meals-on-wheels-236144 As someone who generally only got a good lunch because of those types of programs, I sincerely hope that dude gets a rare disease that causes him to be in unending agony but completely unable to communicate or show pain.
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Mar 16, 2017 23:41
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Canada is a leader in space(arm) technology
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Mar 16, 2017 23:44
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Hot Karl Marx posted:Canada is a leader in space(arm) technology I have the Fiver with it hanging on my office wall at work. Which reminds me, Canadian money is infinitely cooler than American currency. Terrible Robot posted:As someone who generally only got a good lunch because of those types of programs, I sincerely hope that dude gets a rare disease that causes him to be in unending agony but completely unable to communicate or show pain. Yeah, same here. It's infuriating when I run into people in the flesh who whine about wasting money on this and food stamps, because everyone should pull their own weight  Then they usually stammer how they didn't mean people like me when I tell them I grew up on it and it helped me get to where I am today.
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Mar 16, 2017 23:53
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Hot Karl Marx posted:Canada is a leader in space(arm) technology I went to the Canadian aerospace museum a couple years back, and my buddies were super enamored with the Canadarm that they had there. I was like "what is the matter with you people." It's on their $5 bill for fucks sake. They also had Chris Hadfield's guitar. Canadians, man.
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Mar 16, 2017 23:52
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Oklahoma State Senator caught loving an underage male prostitute. Pretty sure we need to invoke "all are pedophiles" rule for republicans from here out. Kinda like bronies.
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Mar 16, 2017 23:55
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A Bad Poster posted:I went to the Canadian aerospace museum a couple years back, and my buddies were super enamored with the Canadarm that they had there. I was like "what is the matter with you people." It's on their $5 bill for fucks sake. They also had Chris Hadfield's guitar. Canadians, man. Also the loving memorial to the Avro Arrow 
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Genocide Tendency posted:Oklahoma State Senator caught loving an underage male prostitute. Best part is this guy was running on a Family Values Anti-Gay/Anti-Trans platform.
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A Bad Poster posted:I went to the Canadian aerospace museum a couple years back, and my buddies were super enamored with the Canadarm that they had there. I was like "what is the matter with you people." It's on their $5 bill for fucks sake. They also had Chris Hadfield's guitar. Canadians, man. It's hard trying to keep your identify when the USA (and the UK somewhat) wants to try and shape it. It's also why most things that try and be 'Canadian' are just a bunch of cliched comparisons to the USA and how "we're better". That ignores that we just had a mass murder driven by racism and a suicide bomber that the RCMP didn't take seriously cause he was white and had to be warned by US authorities that he was gonna bomb something. Actual content (barely): https://twitter.com/KagroX/status/842151151797735424 Hot Karl Marx fucked around with this message at 00:02 on Mar 17, 2017 |
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Mar 16, 2017 23:58
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Genocide Tendency posted:Oklahoma State Senator caught loving an underage male prostitute. There will be some reason why his banging an underage male prostitute was actually justified or he was ordered to do so by some divine means.
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Mar 17, 2017 00:11
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Genocide Tendency posted:Oklahoma State Senator caught loving an underage male prostitute. Yeah this guy totally supported Oklahoma's "bathroom bill" which died in committee last year
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Mar 17, 2017 00:13
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LtCol J. Krusinski posted:Yeah just look at all those rides we hitch on Soyuz. Head and Shoulders above who in human space flight? Because only the PRC and Russia are sending humans to space. The PRC have sent like under a dozen manned missions into space and Russia is basically limited to a taxi service at this point, but I guess that compares to landing multiple landers on Mars and making it to Pluto, what a zinger you landed on me. e- Six. Six times in total China has launched a manned mission. Hell of a point you made. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Mar 17, 2017 00:15
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I think it's more complex than that; I mean, there is enormous co-operation between Roscosmos and NASA. When the Soviet Union collapsed NASA went right in to partner and help Roscosmos, which saved it from being completely trashed and/or sold off in the wake of the collapse. That sharing saved tons of work and knowledge from being lost. The Soyuz btw is currently the only way to and from the ISS, because the shuttle's time has ended. It's hard to talk us/them when it comes to space stuff, and thank god for that frankly.
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Mar 17, 2017 00:22
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VikingSkull posted:The PRC have sent like under a dozen manned missions into space and Russia is basically limited to a taxi service at this point, but I guess that compares to landing multiple landers on Mars and making it to Pluto, what a zinger you landed on me. oh yeah well how many times have YOU launched into space???? CHECK loving MATE
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Mar 17, 2017 00:22
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Everyones space program is a giant loving joke for anything more than putting up satellites or shooting nukes. We are stuck on this dumb gay earth because of it.
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Mar 17, 2017 00:27
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Mister Sinewave posted:I think it's more complex than that; I mean, there is enormous co-operation between Roscosmos and NASA. When the Soviet Union collapsed NASA went right in to partner and help Roscosmos, which saved it from being completely trashed and/or sold off in the wake of the collapse. That sharing saved tons of work and knowledge from being lost. The Soyuz btw is currently the only way to and from the ISS, because the shuttle's time has ended. It's hard to talk us/them when it comes to space stuff, and thank god for that frankly. True, but like I originally said there's a difference between space travel and a space race. There's only one nation right now that could throw the funds behind the organizational knowledge to compete at that level, and it's the US. That being said, every other nation on Earth knows that, meaning we're never going to see another space race most likely. Unfortunately, this means NASA might have outlived most of its usefulness, and that's why I'm in favor of privatizing space exploration. That side of things is going to happen regardless, and I think it's in the US' best interests to make that transition now, when it's still a problem for most national governments, let alone companies abroad. If there is another space race, that's where it's gonna be. Two Finger posted:oh yeah well how many times have YOU launched into space???? do mushrooms count
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Oh hey, Trump's deputy National Security Advisor (from Fox news, under McMaster) may have violated campaign finance laws. https://twitter.com/AndyKroll/status/842516696862806016 And everyone hates Donnie's bullshit budget. https://twitter.com/BCAppelbaum/status/842517730821652480
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VikingSkull posted:There's a huge difference between having a space program and engaging in a space race. The US is head and shoulders above the rest of the world when it comes to space travel. No we aren't. NASA is pretty good when it comes producing/funding science missions, but overall we are slipping more and more. In terms of launches, Russia is beating us for non-commercial applications. Our commercial launch numbers are almost entirely thanks NASA being able to contract out missions to SpaceX. We don't even own the best launch rockets anymore. More companies opt for paying France for the Ariane rocket. Non-US companies can send payloads into space for much cheaper than we can. Due to our export controls, we can't even sell satellite data for commercial use (think hi-res maps for farming/fire fighting, etc), so other companies are paying non-US businesses for the data. On the human space flight front, the Russians are raking us over the coals with $20 million per seat on the Soyuz. Our next crewed US launch won't even be til 2021 on the SLS. And that's not accounting for setbacks due to Trump's budget. We've already pissed away our edge in space.
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Mar 17, 2017 00:32
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facialimpediment posted:And everyone hates Donnie's bullshit budget. This isn't suprising. Despite what the GOP likes to tout, actually cutting these programs like Trump wants to will directly affect their constituents, and that won't bode well for future votes.
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Mar 17, 2017 00:36
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AFStealth posted:No we aren't. NASA is pretty good when it comes producing/funding science missions, but overall we are slipping more and more. In terms of launches, Russia is beating us for non-commercial applications. Our commercial launch numbers are almost entirely thanks NASA being able to contract out missions to SpaceX. These are fair points and I should have specified I was talking about beyond LEO.
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Mar 17, 2017 00:39
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Third World Reggin posted:Last I recall, and it has been awhile, china has major issues with being able to produce the right materials at the right quality. They have to overcome that first. Edit: The US is really good at pure science robo-exploratory missions. Not so much anything else right now. Godholio fucked around with this message at 00:52 on Mar 17, 2017 |
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Mar 17, 2017 00:46
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Godholio posted:Their space program is roughly mid-Apollo. They're operating their second space station, have demonstrated several spacecraft rendezvous, had two successful lunar orbiters (one is moving toward deep space to challenge their tracking systems), a fairly successful lunar rover, another planned to land on the far side next year, and a lunar sample-return mission planned for this year. They're hardly idle, and not far from where we were at our space program's public-eye zenith. China has a massive problem, though, with domestically sourced precision parts. Every corner is cut at every step of procurement for even government operations in china that many things have to be built elsewhere and imported. See, for example, China's airliner that they touted as chinese built:  There are a lot of barriers still to overcome before China is on par with the US in space travel, and it's in large part due to their 5000 years of loving people over and cutting corners.
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Mar 17, 2017 00:51
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China has to overcome well documented science issues. We have to overcome well documented political issues. Personally I'm betting on the Chinese getting their first.
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Mar 17, 2017 00:53
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Proud Christian Mom posted:China has to overcome well documented science issues. We have to overcome well documented political issues. Personally I'm betting on the Chinese getting their first. It's not science issues. It's not a matter of knowledge. It's a matter of precision industrial production. China is poo poo at making things like jet engines and other extremely low tolerance items. It's a cultural issue, not a science one.
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Mar 17, 2017 00:57
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We will nuke ourselves to death before we escape this planet and spread our disease to the galaxy.
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Mar 17, 2017 00:59
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If traveling the stars was possible, we'd all either be in someone's zoo, or enslaved to build monuments to emperor Xenu or something by now. So in a way it's a good thing we're stuck here.
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Mar 17, 2017 01:15
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Hot Karl Marx posted:
Look man, he didn't specify which 30 days it would be. He's got up 2,922 to choose from.
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Capn Beeb posted:Pretty much. 
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