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Nichael posted:She's awesome and certain elements of video game nerds reject her completely (along with Aveline in DA2 for that matter) for being too "masculine" or whatever. It's like you were saying earlier in the thread, a lot of Bioware's criticism does come from people with ridiculous politics, which actually makes it difficult to discern real critiques from dumb ones. I'm interested in how Andromeda plays, if the characters are interesting, if the dialogue is good, and if the story is entertaining. That's basically it for me. I never talked to Cassandra not because she was "too butch" or "tough", but because I'M the sword & board tank man and there's only room for me. Edit: Like, I literally know nothing about her. Maybe I should start up another playthrough... but I put 160 hours into my first playthrough. I dunno.
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Cythereal posted:Cassandra is the everything. Her warrior specialization is decidedly overpowered. I don't think he's surprised she's straight. He's upset that Cora is the only human straight option for male characters because he doesn't want to digitally have sex with an alien. Essentially, he's exceedingly picky about his video game romance, and wants her to traditionally fit in with gender roles. It was the same situation with Cassandra.
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Utnayan posted:Hey guys! haha ok http://i.imgur.com/TLrpPFU.mp4
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PureRok posted:I never talked to Cassandra not because she was "too butch" or "tough", but because I'M the sword & board tank man and there's only room for me. Cassandra can also be a murderbot if you spec her for two-handers. Blackwall's the dedicated tank. Nichael posted:I don't think he's surprised she's straight. He's upset that Cora is the only human straight option for male characters because he doesn't want to digitally have sex with an alien. Essentially, he's exceedingly picky about his video game romance, and wants her to traditionally fit in with gender roles. It was the same situation with Cassandra. In DAI, straight dudes can hook up with Josie who's as girly as it gets.
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PureRok posted:I never talked to Cassandra not because she was "too butch" or "tough", but because I'M the sword & board tank man and there's only room for me.
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To be fair, that comparison is showing a team member and a random NPC lady made using the CC. They always put more effort into the tame mates. Not that I disagree.
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this just reminds me that ashley looked bad 100% of the time
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Utnayan posted:You are right. i mean yeah he is a dumb liar, but maybe they shoudnt use loving frostbite engine. its not a rpg/talking engine, its a loving battlefield/Bay explosions engine. the optimist in me wants to beleieve they are probably pushing the engine as far as it in that area and thats why all the faces animations look like meh.
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Nichael posted:I don't think he's surprised she's straight. He's upset that Cora is the only human straight option for male characters because he doesn't want to digitally have sex with an alien. Essentially, he's exceedingly picky about his video game romance, and wants her to traditionally fit in with gender roles. It was the same situation with Cassandra. Wasn't there supposed to be more romance options than those limited to your crew? Some dev mentioned his favorite was on a planet. Maybe they straight-up haven't found them yet?
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Utnayan posted:A word from Mac Walters - Creative director of Mass Effect Andromeda. Maybe he meant the employees were the highest they've ever been while animating the game. 
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Nichael posted:Inquisition where people were upset that Cassandra was too "tough" to be a straight male romance option.
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FunkMonkey posted:So you romanced Liara then? Is that how it works?
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Nichael posted:I think the general design philosophies of Bioware persist through employee turnover but I've only played Dragon Age and Mass Effect, none of the games before that. They don't any more though unfortunately. But that is par for the course when acquired by someone like EA. You have some freedom for a while, but then the hammer comes down. Unrealistic expectations and a lot of time tabled (and quick) development. It's definitely true that EA wanted to turn DA into an annual franchise. And that is also when a majority of the people left. Honestly, and not trolling in the slightest, it really sucks. Having a company with a massive amount of talent staying in the same place is a great thing for gamers. They are now scattered about, and that design philosophy will continue, just not with Bioware/EA. We are DEFINITELY seeing it continue with Guerilla Games and what they launched with Horizon Zero Dawn. Guerilla as of now is basically the new Bioware. I am excited to see what else they come out with and are already working on an expansion for HZD. (Hoping they do some things with Apollo, because if they do, maybe we can get the space game we really wanted with some fantastic story, acting, dialogue, and mystery/exploration because this game definitely doesn't offer that)
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Pattonesque posted:Wasn't there supposed to be more romance options than those limited to your crew? Some dev mentioned his favorite was on a planet. Maybe they straight-up haven't found them yet? Yes. Datamining says there are two planet-based flings that don't count towards the romance achievement - one for straight dudes, one for gay dudes and straight women.
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Cythereal posted:Cassandra can also be a murderbot if you spec her for two-handers. Blackwall's the dedicated tank. Pattonesque posted:Wasn't there supposed to be more romance options than those limited to your crew? Some dev mentioned his favorite was on a planet. Maybe they straight-up haven't found them yet?
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Dapper_Swindler posted:i mean yeah he is a dumb liar, but maybe they shoudnt use loving frostbite engine. its not a rpg/talking engine, its a loving battlefield/Bay explosions engine. the optimist in me wants to beleieve they are probably pushing the engine as far as it in that area and thats why all the faces animations look like meh. Yeah you have a good point. EA is pushing that directive on them, and the engine isn't built for that - However, DA:I wasn't nearly this bad (Albeit not much better).
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Cythereal posted:
She doesn't show her tits tho.
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I lol when I see Ashley on Horizon in ME2 every time because there's this one spot where she goes completely crosseyed for like a full second
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Anyone who's played the multiplayer, can you say who some of the "boss" villains are? The stream I watched had a mech, but I couldn't take watching the one guy constantly run away from his team and being basically no use while they did all the work.
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Cowcaster posted:in tribes 2 if you deployed an apc it was counted as frozen and you could huck a bunch of concussion grenades under it and then when you undeployed it all the momentum it had gained activated at once flinging it across the map and/or crashing the server but that's probably not really applicable dare?
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Daeno posted:Maybe he meant the employees were the highest they've ever been while animating the game. Haha!
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Cassandra was the best character in the game and one of the precious few Bioware characters written like an actual human being.
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Utnayan posted:Hell, Mac Walters pissed everyone off so much people like Cameron Harris (One hell of an editor/writer) left the entire industry as a result of her disgust with this project. Curious where you're getting stuff like this from--not saying it's not true, but the only sources on supposed acrimony I've seen thus far have been tweets along the lines of "had a great time at Bioware! I wish them the best!"
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Nichael posted:Dragon Age has a setting with a lot more forethought put into it than Mass Effect ever did. I just try not to think about poo poo like the timeline of these games because so much of its logic collapses in on itself when you do. They didn't give the world Dragon Age Origins takes place in any name, so when they were developing DA2 they decided to name it Thedas because a handful of their forums users had taken to calling it 'the DAS (Dragon Age Setting)'. Some forethought lol
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It seems like most of the Biotics classes in MP don't really have a good combination of abilities to...work. The Vanguards, obviously, work fine. But the supposedly Ultra-Rare Biotic Kineticist? Throw, Pull, Lance. Even with Biotic Ascension, she's fuckin' toothless against anything with shields or armor. Hopefully Biotics in SP are better where you can choose better power sets.
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Nichael posted:What's the worst? It's almost certainly not going to be like ME1 or DA2 and reuse assets over and over. It might end up having Inquisition's problem of having a shallow open world, but if the characters are interesting that's not a terrible thing. A lot of the open world stuff seems VERY shallow (every sidequest seems to be 'get in the Mako, drive somewhere, scan something, repeat 2-4 times, have 1-2 fights along the way'), yes, but I think overall it's the writing that bugs me most. Maybe the game does itself a huge disservice by introducing so many plot-relevant characters in the first two hours but I didn't really form an attachment to any of them in the 5 hours I played. Drack and Vetra have good introductions and initial conversations (which is as far as the demo goes), but the other three companions are basically just the ME1 squadmates renamed, except the Ashley-alike has much less personality and the Liara-alike is twee as gently caress. The Salarian pilot has a good voice actor but hasn't actually done anything yet, and he's the most memorable Tempest crew member just for that. Like it's certainly POSSIBLE the game's writing will improve from here, but initial signs don't seem great.
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Lumpy the Cook posted:They didn't give the world Dragon Age Origins takes place in any name, so when they were developing DA2 they decided to name it Thedas because a handful of their forums users had taken to calling it 'the DAS (Dragon Age Setting)'. Some forethought lol People bring this up on this forum like it's a bad thing and I don't get it. Thedas sounds just as legitimate as Westeros, Tamriel, and Hyrule. How they came up with it is irrelevant. The name for a fantasy or sci-fi setting hardly matters as long as it sounds somewhat plausible.
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Haledjian posted:Curious where you're getting stuff like this from--not saying it's not true, but the only sources on supposed acrimony I've seen thus far have been tweets along the lines of "had a great time at Bioware! I wish them the best!" Well, yeah, that's all you will ever get via public PR statements.
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VideoGames posted:The effort is there, but the actual execution and product are lacklustre. JUST LIKE MASS EFFECT 3!!!!!!
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Captain Oblivious posted:It seems like most of the Biotics classes in MP don't really have a good combination of abilities to...work. The Vanguards, obviously, work fine. I know this puts a huge risk on balance issues, but I kind of wish you could just pick and choose what you wanted. Make the character your own.
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Captain Oblivious posted:Hopefully Biotics in SP are better where you can choose better power sets. You can have any and all skills in SP. Want a tech skill, biotic skill, and weapon skill? Do it. Want all Biotic? DO IT. Want none? Well JUST DO IT. But only 3 at a time in actual use. Thanks.
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Utnayan posted:Well, yeah, that's all you will ever get via public PR statements. So is this "my uncle works at Nintendo and says" territory
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Lumpy the Cook posted:They didn't give the world Dragon Age Origins takes place in any name, so when they were developing DA2 they decided to name it Thedas because a handful of their forums users had taken to calling it 'the DAS (Dragon Age Setting)'. Some forethought lol Are you sure? I thought there was a shop in origins called "wonders of thedas"
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Utnayan posted:Honestly, and not trolling in the slightest, it really sucks. Having a company with a massive amount of talent staying in the same place is a great thing for gamers. They are now scattered about, and that design philosophy will continue, just not with Bioware/EA. We are DEFINITELY seeing it continue with Guerilla Games and what they launched with Horizon Zero Dawn. Guerilla as of now is basically the new Bioware. I am excited to see what else they come out with and are already working on an expansion for HZD. Do you mean that in terms of them being a talented team without major pressure from a puppy-mill publisher? Or is Guerrilla actually comprised of a bunch of ex-Bioware talent?
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PureRok posted:You can have any and all skills in SP. Want a tech skill, biotic skill, and weapon skill? Do it. Want all Biotic? DO IT. Want none? Well JUST DO IT. Oh I know. I'm just getting a little uneasy about Biotics because I want to be a cool space wizard but Biotics seem to have really serious problems with defenses in this game, moreso than in previous games, so I'm starting to suspect Tech is just plain better. Aside from Charge and Nova anyway.
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Utnayan posted:Well, yeah, that's all you will ever get via public PR statements.
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Random rear end in a top hat posted:A lot of the open world stuff seems VERY shallow (every sidequest seems to be 'get in the Mako, drive somewhere, scan something, repeat 2-4 times, have 1-2 fights along the way'), yes, but I think overall it's the writing that bugs me most. Maybe the game does itself a huge disservice by introducing so many plot-relevant characters in the first two hours but I didn't really form an attachment to any of them in the 5 hours I played. Drack and Vetra have good introductions and initial conversations (which is as far as the demo goes), but the other three companions are basically just the ME1 squadmates renamed, except the Ashley-alike has much less personality and the Liara-alike is twee as gently caress. The Salarian pilot has a good voice actor but hasn't actually done anything yet, and he's the most memorable Tempest crew member just for that. Like it's certainly POSSIBLE the game's writing will improve from here, but initial signs don't seem great. I'm not surprised (though I am disappointed) that the game has the same open world weaknesses as Inquisition, but the character stuff seems par for the course. Every Mass Effect game has a few boring squadmates (Ashley, Kaidan, Jacob), but all the party members in these games tend to open up over the course of the 100+ hours of gameplay and become more interesting. It seems premature to judge the characters off of ten hours. Ainsley McTree posted:Are you sure? I thought there was a shop in origins called "wonders of thedas" Yeah, I glossed over that part of his post. That part is completely wrong, Thedas got its name about a year or two prior to DA:O's release. That is well documented and the term Thedas is used many times in DA:O, as well as the prequel novels that came out before DA:O. His post is kind of bad.
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Ainsley McTree posted:Are you sure? I thought there was a shop in origins called "wonders of thedas" Thedas is the name as people shortened the dragon age setting to The DAS, but it was done way prior to Origin's release. And it's a pretty good name for a fantasy world!
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