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DatonKallandor
Aug 21, 2009

"I can no longer sit back and allow nationalist shitposting, nationalist indoctrination, nationalist subversion, and the German nationalist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious game balance."

Hace posted:

Seems like the only good weapons in multiplayer are the sniper rifles. I got a Widow and just oneshot everything in bronze, and if I try to use literally any other gun it barely does anything.

The Widow also needs a reload after every shot. The Katana (default shotgun) is also quite nice if you're playing one of the up-close classes. Asari Adept is kind if ridiculous with it, because you've got 2 detonators and one permanently on priming field, that also gives you shields whenever you kill something in it and does damage. Avenger is just flexible and the sniper rifles are great if you want to be a cover-sitter (engineers work pretty well for that I think).

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bloodysabbath
May 1, 2004

OH NO!
It was my understanding that Casey Hudson was the egomaniac who botched the ME3 story landing, not Mac? Like I could swear I remember it came out that he legit locked himself in a room with Mac and dictated the ending of ME3, bypassing the (then standard) process at Bioware where every writer had to defend their output against feedback from the rest of the writing staff.

I don't know if that's still protocol or if the only litmus tests are now "don't gently caress with the micro transactions or hurt Manveer's feelings."

Haledjian
May 29, 2008

YOU CAN'T MOVE WITH ME IN THIS DIGITAL SPACE
Haha, I'm sorry, I thought "my face is tired" was a joke people made up in this thread. I didn't realize it was a line from the actual game.

That's loving spectacular.

monster on a stick
Apr 29, 2013

Vikar Jerome posted:

sera is voiced by someone who has never interacted with other people from derby or any of these loving shires and im like two shires over.

edit: actually, its mainly the use of piss. i think maybe its all the writer here and the actress couldn't change it or didn't care enough to.

IMDB posted:

Became interested in acting whilst studying for a B.A. in English at the University of Cambridge

She should have spoken like real Englishmen and said "Jolly ho, gov'ner!"

Ainsley McTree
Feb 19, 2004


2house2fly posted:

You need to source your quotes

he is the source of future quotes

Cowcaster
Aug 7, 2002



Moola posted:

they should have just done a MP demo again

they were planning to but they canceled it

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006

Vikar Jerome posted:

sera is voiced by someone who has never interacted with other people from derby or any of these loving shires and im like two shires over

the shire is fictional, you wombat

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Haledjian posted:

Haha, I'm sorry, I thought "my face is tired" was a joke people made up in this thread. I didn't realize it was a line from the actual game.

That's loving spectacular.

it's a line from an edited mp4 that may have used some sentence mixing yes

Haledjian
May 29, 2008

YOU CAN'T MOVE WITH ME IN THIS DIGITAL SPACE

Fojar38 posted:

it's a line from an edited mp4 that may have used some sentence mixing yes

I have been snookered?!

They have it linked in this RPS article as if it's real dialogue. Whoops?

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

bloodysabbath posted:

It was my understanding that Casey Hudson was the egomaniac who botched the ME3 story landing, not Mac? Like I could swear I remember it came out that he legit locked himself in a room with Mac and dictated the ending of ME3, bypassing the (then standard) process at Bioware where every writer had to defend their output against feedback from the rest of the writing staff.

I don't know if that's still protocol or if the only litmus tests are now "don't gently caress with the micro transactions or hurt Manveer's feelings."

how the gently caress does manveer have a job still? i assume he is because he is good or competent so they let him say retarded kinda bigoted poo poo on twitter and start fights.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Haledjian posted:

I have been snookered?!

maybe

legitimate complaints tend to get combined with bullshit ones because it's bioware which is effectively treated as a political party nowadays so its hard to tell whats real now

Ekusukariba
Oct 11, 2012

bloodysabbath posted:

It was my understanding that Casey Hudson was the egomaniac who botched the ME3 story landing, not Mac? Like I could swear I remember it came out that he legit locked himself in a room with Mac and dictated the ending of ME3, bypassing the (then standard) process at Bioware where every writer had to defend their output against feedback from the rest of the writing staff.

I don't know if that's still protocol or if the only litmus tests are now "don't gently caress with the micro transactions or hurt Manveer's feelings."

iirc Casey locked himself in the room with Mac because Mac hadn't thought of an ending despite it being fairly late into the process, and wouldn't let him leave until they came up with the ending, though given what they came up with they should have also let the other writers into the room

eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



Lipstick Apathy
this isnt a very good game

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

eonwe posted:

this isnt a very good game

gently caress. explain.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Haledjian posted:

I have been snookered?!

They have it linked in this RPS article as if it's real dialogue. Whoops?

the mp4 that is being played is at best skipping through a ton of dialogue fairly rapidly to make it look strange

i believe that "my face is tired" is actually a line though

DoctorGonzo
Jul 25, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

eonwe posted:

this isnt a very good game

hosed up if true

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

eonwe posted:

this isnt a very good game
the way the dialogue is so awkwardly framed and cut and voiced reminds me of freaking witcher 1.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-egGn5WYrk

and at least witcher 1 had a decent story beneath the bad script , direction, and VAing

El Grillo
Jan 3, 2008
Fun Shoe
Has this been posted yet:


Seems like a pretty good summary of the situation.

Funky See Funky Do
Aug 20, 2013
STILL TRYING HARD

Fojar38 posted:

it's a line from an edited mp4 that may have used some sentence mixing yes

No, it is 100% a line from the game that she actually says. You can see it in multiple, independent, playthroughs.

eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

Dapper_Swindler posted:

gently caress. explain.

its bad

DoctorGonzo posted:

hosed up if true

insanely hosed up

Endorph posted:

the way the dialogue is so awkwardly framed and cut and voiced reminds me of freaking witcher 1.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-egGn5WYrk

and at least witcher 1 had a decent story beneath the bad script , direction, and VAing

good point

witcher owns

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006

Fojar38 posted:

it's a line from an edited mp4 that may have used some sentence mixing yes

I think I saw this on stream last night. I do not think it's edited.

mrbotus
Apr 7, 2009

Patron of the Pants
So I was holding off watching playthroughs of this game, but accidentally came across a clip and I was horrified. What the hell happened? Why are the animations so goddamn terrible? Why is everyone smirking slightly regardless of what's going on? Why is it SOOOOO "jokey?" Really glad I didn't pre-order.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Arglebargle III posted:

I think I saw this on stream last night. I do not think it's edited.

pretty awkward encounter with that npc then. why does she talk so fast

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



El Grillo posted:

Has this been posted yet:


Seems like a pretty good summary of the situation.

Humanity, gently caress yeah!

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

nickmeister posted:

So I was holding off watching playthroughs of this game, but accidentally came across a clip and I was horrified. What the hell happened? Why are the animations so goddamn terrible? Why is everyone smirking slightly regardless of what's going on? Why is it SOOOOO "jokey?" Really glad I didn't pre-order.
all of bioware's experienced and talented staff jumped ship, some of them during development. i dont have any insider trading or anything but that points to an extremely troubled development cycle and EA pushing it along its charted release path regardless of the bumps along the way.

Lemon
May 22, 2003

Sera's accent was fine, the problems were just with the performance and script.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

also the face line is in the game, it isn't an edit or stitched together

https://twitter.com/Nibellion/status/842294985051521024?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Admiral Ray
May 17, 2014

Proud Musk and Dogecoin fanboy

Fojar38 posted:

it's a line from an edited mp4 that may have used some sentence mixing yes

Nah, that mp4 is a clip direct from the game to you. poo poo is that hosed up.

monster on a stick
Apr 29, 2013

Lemon posted:

Sera's accent was fine, the problems were just with the performance and script.

Also all the Dwarves had such fake American accents. Nobody in the US sounds like Varric.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
---------------------------->

Admiral Ray posted:

Nah, that mp4 is a clip direct from the game to you. poo poo is that hosed up.

Other conversations in the game aren't nearly that bizarre, which makes me wonder what's going on is all. Why is that specific interaction so hosed

marshmallow creep
Dec 10, 2008

I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me

nickmeister posted:

So I was holding off watching playthroughs of this game, but accidentally came across a clip and I was horrified. What the hell happened? Why are the animations so goddamn terrible? Why is everyone smirking slightly regardless of what's going on? Why is it SOOOOO "jokey?" Really glad I didn't pre-order.

They saw that people really, really liked Citadel and thought "poo poo we need to make jokes this whole game, then!" without realizing Citadel worked because it was with characters that were charismatic and had earned our affection so we were open to it, while these guys are completely new to us and our main character literally loses his father minutes into the game and goes right on smirking at everything.

CJ
Jul 3, 2007

Asbungold

Fojar38 posted:

Other conversations in the game aren't nearly that bizarre, which makes me wonder what's going on is all. Why is that specific interaction so hosed

What do you mean? Her face is tired, it's pretty simple.

Utnayan
Sep 26, 2002
PROUD MEMBER OF THE RAPIST DEFENSE BRIGADE! DO NOT BE MEAN TO RAPISTS, OR I WILL VOTE FOR THEM WITH EVER INCREASING VIGOR!

Ekusukariba posted:

iirc Casey locked himself in the room with Mac because Mac hadn't thought of an ending despite it being fairly late into the process, and wouldn't let him leave until they came up with the ending, though given what they came up with they should have also let the other writers into the room

This is correct. And let's not forget, Casey is a natural engineer. Not a writer. Mac is the one that stated he couldn't get anything done with all the writers wanting input. Not Casey. Casey, under severe pressure, had no choice. And now Mac brought that same bullshit mentality to this game , and as you can see, massive talent left when they finally got sick of his poo poo and what you have now is this glorious train wreck.

Mac is the one that needs to be corralled. And also needs to just stick to character development (which he is good at) and needs to not be in charge of anything. He isn't capable and as you can see with that quote about how the animations are the best yet in February, highly unethical. The two go hand in hand obviously.

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

Endorph posted:

also the face line is in the game, it isn't an edit or stitched together

https://twitter.com/Nibellion/status/842294985051521024?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

This can't be real

Admiral Ray
May 17, 2014

Proud Musk and Dogecoin fanboy

euphronius posted:

This can't be real

Nobody gets out of cryo without some problems.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
---------------------------->

Utnayan posted:

He isn't capable and as you can see with that quote about how the animations are the best yet in February, highly unethical. The two go hand in hand obviously.

its about ethics in game development

Funky See Funky Do
Aug 20, 2013
STILL TRYING HARD

Fojar38 posted:

Other conversations in the game aren't nearly that bizarre, which makes me wonder what's going on is all. Why is that specific interaction so hosed

It's the worst offender I've come across but it's not unique. A lot of the dialogue comes across sounding like a text to speech programme is speaking it. Some of it is fine, bordering on good, but the quality is all over the place.

Lemon
May 22, 2003

Endorph posted:

also the face line is in the game, it isn't an edit or stitched together

https://twitter.com/Nibellion/status/842294985051521024?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

That is just so... Odd.

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

Admiral Ray posted:

Nah, that mp4 is a clip direct from the game to you. poo poo is that hosed up.

All of the interactions I've seen make the Ark look like it's just a glorified special school bus that's accidentally ended up in another dimension.

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Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
https://twitter.com/truongasm/status/842138336764416000

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