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Fojar38: Sep 2, 2011; Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia

also here's a stupid take
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Milky Moor posted:

"So, this is the new Boeing."

"Well, despite all your innovation and features you've talked up, and your status as a AAA airplane developer, and the amount of time you've spent on it, it looks it can barely fly."

"Actually, you might think that, but if you'd compare it to the Wright Flyer..."

Who are you arguing with

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2house2fly: Nov 14, 2012; You did a super job wrapping things up! And I'm not just saying that because I have to!

My bets on spoilers:

1: You died in the first mission and uploading SAM into you or whatever kept your brain functions going, but really it's SAM who thinks it's you, a sort of fourth-wall breaking reference to the fact that Ryder is controlled by the player

2: The ancient alien civilisation is actually you, and at the end of the game you'll go back in time, fulfilling a time loop and sending arc ships back to the Milky Way and it turns out that all the humans and aliens are the descendants of the characters in this game

3: Actually wait the evil aliens are you from the future, and they're trying to stop you doing whatever they did to become monsters

4: SAM is Reaper Tech, and the reason it can access the ruins is because they're Reaper sleeper cells

5: Dad Ryder survived and is evil

# ? Mar 17, 2017 04:43

Buck Wildman: Mar 30, 2010; I am Metango, Galactic Governor

monster on a stick posted:

I'm not saying it's bad, but it's a trope of RPGs. Seriously go play The Witcher 3 without having people talk about how it's great that you're a Witcher because something needs killing. They're called sidequests.

Didn't most people loving hate Geralt and want to deal with him as little as possible?

# ? Mar 17, 2017 04:44

JBP: Feb 16, 2017; You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

monster on a stick posted:

I'm not saying it's bad, but it's a trope of RPGs. Seriously go play The Witcher 3 without having people talk about how it's great that you're a Witcher because something needs killing. They're called sidequests.

The guy in that game is visibly a mutant monster fucker, while this game stars some brain damaged kid. The sidequests were also good in that game and revolved around you (or another Witcher) doing an established job. No one goes "thanks god, it's THE WITCHER".

# ? Mar 17, 2017 04:44

No Mods No Masters: Oct 3, 2004

monster on a stick posted:

I'm not saying it's bad, but it's a trope of RPGs. Seriously go play The Witcher 3 without having people talk about how it's great that you're a Witcher because something needs killing. They're called sidequests.

Actually, a major feature of the witcher setting is that you're treated with mistrust and suspicion by random people constantly.

Somebody might say thanks or whatever after you kill a monster for them but you're basically a useful freak who is often strongly encouraged to mosey along after all the butchery is done.

The witcher is probably the single worst example you could have picked out of modern RPGs for this reason

# ? Mar 17, 2017 04:44

AngryBooch: Sep 26, 2009

2house2fly posted:

My bets on spoilers:

1: You died in the first mission and uploading SAM into you or whatever kept your brain functions going, but really it's SAM who thinks it's you, a sort of fourth-wall breaking reference to the fact that Ryder is controlled by the player

2: The ancient alien civilisation is actually you, and at the end of the game you'll go back in time, fulfilling a time loop and sending arc ships back to the Milky Way and it turns out that all the humans and aliens are the descendants of the characters in this game

3: Actually wait the evil aliens are you from the future, and they're trying to stop you doing whatever they did to become monsters

4: SAM is Reaper Tech, and the reason it can access the ruins is because they're Reaper sleeper cells

5: Dad Ryder survived and is evil

Bringing back the old Bioware twists! I like it. They are all true, I read the script.

# ? Mar 17, 2017 04:45

Doctor Spaceman: Jul 6, 2010; "Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Milky Moor posted:

"So, this is the new F35"

"Well, despite all your innovation and features you've talked up, and your status as a AAA airplane developer, and the amount of time you've spent on it, it looks it can barely fly."

"Actually, you might think that, but if you'd compare it to the Wright Flyer..."

# ? Mar 17, 2017 04:45

Buck Wildman: Mar 30, 2010; I am Metango, Galactic Governor

2house2fly posted:

My bets on spoilers:

1: You died in the first mission and uploading SAM into you or whatever kept your brain functions going, but really it's SAM who thinks it's you, a sort of fourth-wall breaking reference to the fact that Ryder is controlled by the player

2: The ancient alien civilisation is actually you, and at the end of the game you'll go back in time, fulfilling a time loop and sending arc ships back to the Milky Way and it turns out that all the humans and aliens are the descendants of the characters in this game

3: Actually wait the evil aliens are you from the future, and they're trying to stop you doing whatever they did to become monsters

4: SAM is Reaper Tech, and the reason it can access the ruins is because they're Reaper sleeper cells

5: Dad Ryder survived and is evil

6: The secret power was true love all along.

# ? Mar 17, 2017 04:46

Milkfred E. Moore: Aug 27, 2006; 'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'

monster on a stick posted:

I'm not saying it's bad, but it's a trope of RPGs. Seriously go play The Witcher 3 without having people talk about how it's great that you're a Witcher because something needs killing. They're called sidequests.

Geralt is the most famous member with world-wide renown of a select group of superhuman individuals who are very good at their job, namely killing things.

John Shepard is an all-round badass who is basically a human celebrity who can break the law with no real oversight.

Ryder is... some dude, I guess, who gets a shiny Chief Explorer badge.

# ? Mar 17, 2017 04:46

Legs Benedict: Jul 14, 2002; You can either follow me to our bedroom or bend over that control throne because I haven't been this turned on in FOREVER!

2house2fly posted:

My bets on spoilers:

1: You died in the first mission and uploading SAM into you or whatever kept your brain functions going, but really it's SAM who thinks it's you, a sort of fourth-wall breaking reference to the fact that Ryder is controlled by the player

this seems highly likely given the cutscene after the prologue mission

# ? Mar 17, 2017 04:46

Fojar38: Sep 2, 2011; Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia

also here's a stupid take
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FunkMonkey posted:

Didn't most people loving hate Geralt and want to deal with him as little as possible?

yes we call them players :smuggo:

# ? Mar 17, 2017 04:46

Fojar38: Sep 2, 2011; Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia

also here's a stupid take
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the plot twist is that ryder is revan

# ? Mar 17, 2017 04:47

Buck Wildman: Mar 30, 2010; I am Metango, Galactic Governor

Fojar38 posted:

yes we call them players

Ba-ZING

# ? Mar 17, 2017 04:47

Ichabod Tane: Oct 30, 2005; A most notable
coward, an infinite and endless liar, an hourly promise breaker, the owner of no one good quality.

https://youtu.be/_Ojd0BdtMBY?t=4

Looking forward to making Ryder act like an enormous pussy whenever possible because he's just a glorified boy scout.

# ? Mar 17, 2017 04:47

Admiral Ray: May 17, 2014; Proud Musk and Dogecoin fanboy

2house2fly posted:

My bets on spoilers:

1: You died in the first mission and uploading SAM into you or whatever kept your brain functions going, but really it's SAM who thinks it's you, a sort of fourth-wall breaking reference to the fact that Ryder is controlled by the player

2: The ancient alien civilisation is actually you, and at the end of the game you'll go back in time, fulfilling a time loop and sending arc ships back to the Milky Way and it turns out that all the humans and aliens are the descendants of the characters in this game

3: Actually wait the evil aliens are you from the future, and they're trying to stop you doing whatever they did to become monsters

4: SAM is Reaper Tech, and the reason it can access the ruins is because they're Reaper sleeper cells

5: Dad Ryder survived and is evil

2. feels too much like the award winning plot of Red Alert 3.

# ? Mar 17, 2017 04:48

2house2fly: Nov 14, 2012; You did a super job wrapping things up! And I'm not just saying that because I have to!

I don't care what anyone says, Revan was an awesome twist.

# ? Mar 17, 2017 04:49

Lumpy the Cook: Feb 4, 2011; Drippy-goo-yay, mother-gunker!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBbakjosjL4

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Ainsley McTree: Feb 19, 2004

Now that I've actually played a bit I've decided I like the game suck my dick

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8-bit Miniboss: May 24, 2005; CORPO COPS CAME FOR MY

2house2fly posted:

I don't care what anyone says, Revan was an awesome twist.

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Professor Beetus: Apr 12, 2007; They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus

monster on a stick posted:

ME1 was the first modern RPG I played, and I remember walking out of Spectre induction and wondering why everyone was saying "COMMANDER SHEPARD, I NEED YOUR HELP" and "SPECTRE, THIS WAY" and whatever. You've got the Indian guy who wants his wife's body back, the crime boss lady who wants to take out the competition, Emily Wong waves you down multiple times, that's not to mention all the people who are all but yelling "GOSH I SURE NEED HELP TOO BAD THERE'S NOBODY AROUND" like Admiral Kahoku, the Elcor ambassador who has issues with the Consort, the maintenance people on Feros, etc.

So yeah the old games were like this too and if you don't think so, go replay them.

You are conflating two different things. I expect to get fetch quests because it's an RPG. What I don't expect is everyone squirting at me and begging to suck my dick because I'm the PATHFINDER. It's a completely stupid turn of events and holy poo poo you think out of 100,000 people specially selected for the initiative there might be a few people who know what they're doing. Instead, you find the Nexus and it's got the lights off and everyone sitting around with their thumbs in their asses waiting for the magical player character to teach them how to tie their shoes.

It's by far the dumbest conceit I've ever seen in a Bioware game and I can't imagine why they thought it was a good idea. The only way Mass Effect is saved at this point is if there's a post credits scene where the Normandy emerges from dark space and a Haggard Shepard appears to tell Ryder "we have to go back... To the Milky Way!"

# ? Mar 17, 2017 04:50

Buck Wildman: Mar 30, 2010; I am Metango, Galactic Governor

2house2fly posted:

I don't care what anyone says, Revan was an awesome twist.

Revan was a laughably predictable twist you could see coming as early as becoming a Jedi.

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Random Asshole: Nov 8, 2010

Funky See Funky Do posted:

What exactly is Pathfinder training? What are they trained to do?

They are Player Characters. Kind of like Spectres, except stripped of any justification whatsoever.

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Fojar38: Sep 2, 2011; Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia

also here's a stupid take
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Ainsley McTree posted:

Now that I've actually played a bit I've decided I like the game suck my dick

the DAI threads prophecy continues unabated

# ? Mar 17, 2017 04:50

Zakmonster: Apr 15, 2010

Ainsley McTree posted:

Now that I've actually played a bit I've decided I like the game suck my dick

But GiantBomb and RPS said the game was bad you see, so you can't actually like the game.

Have you seen that gif of the hosed up animation?

# ? Mar 17, 2017 04:51

CJ: Jul 3, 2007; Asbungold

2house2fly posted:

1: You died in the first mission and uploading SAM into you or whatever kept your brain functions going, but really it's SAM who thinks it's you, a sort of fourth-wall breaking reference to the fact that Ryder is controlled by the player

That wouldn't work because you play for a bit before you get the AI so it wouldn't make any sense like the bit of Bioshock after you lose the mind control but the game is still the same poo poo.

My prediction is that Sara Ryder got brain damage from the cryosleep and the game all takes place in her head.

# ? Mar 17, 2017 04:51

Admiral Ray: May 17, 2014; Proud Musk and Dogecoin fanboy

Ainsley McTree posted:

Now that I've actually played a bit I've decided I like the game suck my dick

Pull up Andromeda thread, pull up!

# ? Mar 17, 2017 04:51

Doctor Spaceman: Jul 6, 2010; "Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

2house2fly posted:

I don't care what anyone says, Revan was an awesome twist.

It really was.

It was always fun going to Korriban after the twist, I never replayed it to see what the other planets were like done 4th though.

Lumpy the Cook posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBbakjosjL4

Better than the female one I guess? The sliding-into-view bit for "you're looking at him" is still hilariously dumb.

# ? Mar 17, 2017 04:51

Funky See Funky Do: Aug 20, 2013; STILL TRYING HARD

Lumpy the Cook posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBbakjosjL4

Tell me that eyebrow wiggle is edited. I haven't noticed it before. loving lol

# ? Mar 17, 2017 04:51

Fojar38: Sep 2, 2011; Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia

also here's a stupid take
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the twist is that alec ryder left a secret flaw in your pathfinder training that only he can exploit, which he does when the time is right to seize the imperial throne

# ? Mar 17, 2017 04:51

2house2fly: Nov 14, 2012; You did a super job wrapping things up! And I'm not just saying that because I have to!

I hadn't seen the eyebrow thing before: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBbakjosjL4&t=22s

# ? Mar 17, 2017 04:51

Keithium: Jan 7, 2013

FunkMonkey posted:

Didn't most people loving hate Geralt and want to deal with him as little as possible?

Everyone loved Geralt actually.

# ? Mar 17, 2017 04:52

2house2fly: Nov 14, 2012; You did a super job wrapping things up! And I'm not just saying that because I have to!

FunkMonkey posted:

Revan was a laughably predictable twist you could see coming as early as becoming a Jedi.

I said right in the drat post you're quoting that it was awesome.

# ? Mar 17, 2017 04:53

JBP: Feb 16, 2017; You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

Lumpy the Cook posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBbakjosjL4

Fosteraddison: "Alec is dead?"

Ryder: :pervert:

# ? Mar 17, 2017 04:52

2house2fly: Nov 14, 2012; You did a super job wrapping things up! And I'm not just saying that because I have to!

Fojar38 posted:

the twist is that alec ryder left a secret flaw in your pathfinder training that only he can exploit, which he does when the time is right to seize the imperial throne

Jade Empire also had a badass twist.

# ? Mar 17, 2017 04:53

Buck Wildman: Mar 30, 2010; I am Metango, Galactic Governor

Ainsley McTree posted:

Now that I've actually played a bit I've decided I like the game suck my dick

I'll probably like the game so long as the skill system is conducive to me having a full skill set devoted to lighting people on fire, like the crazy guy in Borderlands 2.

# ? Mar 17, 2017 04:53

Ichabod Tane: Oct 30, 2005; A most notable
coward, an infinite and endless liar, an hourly promise breaker, the owner of no one good quality.

https://youtu.be/_Ojd0BdtMBY?t=4

Lmao at Kumar the salarian

# ? Mar 17, 2017 04:53

No Mods No Masters: Oct 3, 2004

*geralt rides through some mud shithole while people spit at him, stare nervously, call him a witchfucker under their breath* clearly hes the most loved hero in all of RPG's

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