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Mister Facetious
Apr 21, 2007

I think I died and woke up in L.A.,
I don't know how I wound up in this place...

:canada:

Funky See Funky Do posted:

Commander Shepard wouldn't do that. Commander Shepard would have it under control in two days, max!

Seriously. Cerberus' Lazarus Project reconstructed freeze-dried and burned-upon-reentry brains with memories intact; why didn't they just crib Alien 4 and clone her?

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Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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didnt lazarus cost enough to buy a loving moon or some poo poo

Mister Facetious
Apr 21, 2007

I think I died and woke up in L.A.,
I don't know how I wound up in this place...

:canada:

Fojar38 posted:

didnt lazarus cost enough to buy a loving moon or some poo poo

The governments built five Citadel-sized ships. I'm sure they have the loving cash for cloning one woman.

Rotten Red Rod
Mar 5, 2002

This game looks pretty bad and all of this bad press would cause me to not buy it... Except that multiplayer exists and I'll totally buy it JUST for that if it's as fun as ME3's multiplayer. It feels weird saying that about an ME game when I'm someone who thinks ME2 is the best game of its console generation.

Funky See Funky Do
Aug 20, 2013
STILL TRYING HARD

Fojar38 posted:

didnt lazarus cost enough to buy a loving moon or some poo poo

Yeah but most of that was spent on research. They could probably do it for like 50 credits now.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Rotten Red Rod posted:

This game looks pretty bad and all of this bad press would cause me to not buy it... Except that multiplayer exists and I'll totally buy it JUST for that if it's as fun as ME3's multiplayer.

Actually the latest reports indicate that the game may in fact be good so you dont need to convince yourself so hard

Milkfred E. Moore
Aug 27, 2006

'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'

Fojar38 posted:

Actually the latest reports indicate that the game may in fact be good so you dont need to convince yourself so hard

you are literally the only one in this thread saying that

Sio
Jan 20, 2007

better red than dead

Milky Moor posted:

you are literally the only one in this thread saying that

There's literally another person saying that on the previous page.

Funky See Funky Do
Aug 20, 2013
STILL TRYING HARD
Most people, myself included, would say the game is alright. It's janky, unpolished and feels kinda cheap in some places but it's a perfectly playable game that you'll probably get 50 hours of mindless entertainment out of. But it's not good.

Caidin
Oct 29, 2011
Okay I just got to Nexus, they are calling the wierd space coral reef apparently everyone crashed into the Scourge and the mutineers that popped up a few months into sitting around waiting for the arks the "the Exiles".

This is getting Red Faction Armageddon levels of Syfy.

comatose
Nov 23, 2005

Lipstick Apathy

Mister Macys posted:

Seriously. Cerberus' Lazarus Project reconstructed freeze-dried and burned-upon-reentry brains with memories intact; why didn't they just crib Alien 4 and clone her?

I think shep and miranda talk about cloning and she makes up some dumb bs excuse about it not being the same or something and it had to be the real Shepard because reasons. Meanwhile on the Citadel during your shore leave, theres a shep clone running around trying to steal your identify.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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comatose posted:

I think shep and miranda talk about cloning and she makes up some dumb bs excuse about it not being the same or something and it had to be the real Shepard because reasons. Meanwhile on the Citadel during your shore leave, theres a shep clone running around trying to steal your identify.

tbf that shep clone ended up getting owned because they arent really you

Legs Benedict
Jul 14, 2002

You can either follow me to our bedroom or bend over that control throne because I haven't been this turned on in FOREVER!

Funky See Funky Do posted:

Most people, myself included, would say the game is alright. It's janky, unpolished and feels kinda cheap in some places but it's a perfectly playable game that you'll probably get 50 hours of mindless entertainment out of. But it's not good.

if i played a game for fifty loving hours i certainly wouldn't be calling it bad, or even average.

Milkfred E. Moore
Aug 27, 2006

'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'
i'm pretty sure that the clone shep was supposed to be a source of back-up body parts and organs or something, too

Zzulu
May 15, 2009

(▰˘v˘▰)

Milky Moor posted:

you are literally the only one in this thread saying that

no I said it too, and plenty of others

it just gets drowned out by hordes of people who havent played the game laughing at gifs

comatose
Nov 23, 2005

Lipstick Apathy
Yeah he was just an organ bank for the one true shep. I would have loved a renegade option to front kick that guy out of the hangar instead of him just falling.

Rotten Red Rod
Mar 5, 2002

Fojar38 posted:

Actually the latest reports indicate that the game may in fact be good so you dont need to convince yourself so hard

That's what I'm banking on, I loved DA:I and I remember a bunch of idiots saying they hated DA:I because they didn't realize you could leave the Hinterlands. And essentially right now everyone is just able to play this game's version of the Hinterlands and nothing else.

As for the facial animation weirdness... I'm just going to have to accept that Uncharted and Witcher have spoiled me and suck it up.

Cleatcleat
Mar 27, 2010
Used seven of my ten hours to find the game is... Pretty good.

There's little things that annoy me, like climbing doesn't always work right so I end up falling off again. Having jump jets and dash and minor hover action is worth it though to make up for that.
I can't skip the movies, but dialog now has confirmation to skip so no more accidentally skipping lines, that's a nice change.
For some reason my screen resolution was set to the lowest possible while graphic settings were highest possible. Took me a bit to notice that.
Also restarted my Ryder because I didn't care for conc shot from the default, when you customize you can change more than just your looks, the option to change your starting ability is there.
MP was fun for the little bit I did, failed a bronze run because it seems I forgot to how to point and shoot a gun so that's a nice kick to the shins from doing gold in me3mp a couple years ago to failing bronze now.

Overall it's good. Gotta mess with settings, both graphics to clean some things up and my router so I can be a better host next time and not have constant slow downs for everyone. I do like the whole game slow downs, I remember me3mp you'd just get rolled over by enemies. This time enemies lag with you.

Lord Cyrahzax
Oct 11, 2012

comatose posted:

Yeah organ bank or not I would have loved a renegade option to front kick that guy out of the hangar instead of him just falling.

I'm pretty sure that is the Renegade option?

Mr. Baps
Apr 16, 2008

Yo ho?

Zzulu posted:

no I said it too, and plenty of others

it just gets drowned out by hordes of people who havent played the game laughing at gifs

To be fair the gifs are hilarious and the animations don't look any better in context, but shockingly that doesn't mean the game can't be fun :monocle:

Buck Wildman
Mar 30, 2010

I am Metango, Galactic Governor


BrianWilly posted:

Just started playing the trial.

Hot take after having literally just starting out: the game looks good. But I'm playing on a pretty high-end computer with monster FPS, so, v:v:v

I find my Ryder pretty expressive in the short time that I've played, honestly. The downside being that he seems to be in a perpetual state of just about pissing himself in fear/just having pissed himself in fear.






It's been a rough day, Bryder.

That third one down cracks me up whenever I look at it. Then I get to the one in the helmet and start laughing like a jackass.

You can still laugh at all the stupid gifs and think the game still looks promising, you know. I do it all the time.

Buck Wildman fucked around with this message at 05:51 on Mar 17, 2017

Enigmatic Cakelord
Jun 16, 2006

ASARI EYEBROWS

Rotten Red Rod posted:

As for the facial animation weirdness... I'm just going to have to accept that Uncharted and Witcher have spoiled me and suck it up.

Witcher 3 and Horizon are fair comparisons, but Naughty Dog titles are narrower in scope (and have much smaller casts).

monster on a stick
Apr 29, 2013

Walrus Pete posted:

To be fair the gifs are hilarious and the animations don't look any better in context, but shockingly that doesn't mean the game can't be fun :monocle:

No graphical glitches mean a game is bad. Proof:

Buck Wildman
Mar 30, 2010

I am Metango, Galactic Governor


Whoops, edit mistake.

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus

Walrus Pete posted:

To be fair the gifs are hilarious and the animations don't look any better in context, but shockingly that doesn't mean the game can't be fun :monocle:

Yeah, I've had plenty of fun with it but I wonder how the people who shrug and say "I DON'T SEE IT, THE ANIMATION'S NOT THAT BAD" are playing a video game without eyes.

comatose
Nov 23, 2005

Lipstick Apathy

Lord Cyrahzax posted:

I'm pretty sure that is the Renegade option?

I think you just let them fall off the edge or step on their fingers.

Abroham Lincoln
Sep 19, 2011

Note to self: This one's the good one



Walrus Pete posted:

To be fair the gifs are hilarious and the animations don't look any better in context, but shockingly that doesn't mean the game can't be fun :monocle:

yeah, whole reason I was interested in the first place was because of the gameplay elements. combat and the like looked really fun and the multiplayer looks dope, too.

but I can't get over the visual presentation being this abysmal in a AAA $60 title and what I've seen of the writing so far isn't inspiring much confidence, which is unfortunate.

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006

I don't think anyone has said that you aren't allowed to have fun, we just aren't buying it at the current price because it looks disappointing.

Buck Wildman
Mar 30, 2010

I am Metango, Galactic Governor


monster on a stick posted:

No graphical glitches mean a game is bad. Proof:


I can only fantasize about being able to take it that easy.

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus
Oh and for anyone who wants a reasonable chuckle, when you get to the bridge of the Nexus, just spend like 20 seconds looking at that one loving Turian being forced to work a console meant for a tiny human. Just look at that poor bastard.

Rotten Red Rod
Mar 5, 2002

Enigmatic Cakelord posted:

Witcher 3 and Horizon are fair comparisons, but Naughty Dog titles are narrower in scope (and have much smaller casts).

I know the reasons, I'm just saying having experienced Uncharted 4 so recently it's a bit of a shock to see faces that aren't nearly as expressive. It was an issue for me in Horizon as well, I had trouble empathizing with any of the characters because their faces seemed so static. And this is a step down from that.

No Mods No Masters
Oct 3, 2004

https://s1.webmshare.com/KEZKV.webm

Neon Knight
Jan 14, 2009
When Saren/Okeer are growing Krogans in tanks everyone was puffing their chests about needing to stop it, then when Ambassador Udina suggests growing an army of Shepards to colonize Andromeda the council is like "Would this make us hypocrites?"

CJ
Jul 3, 2007

Asbungold

This is reassuring. Some of my favorite space operas have poetry.

doingitwrong
Jul 27, 2013
I've made it to the end of the trial and my verdict is: this is a game for genre fans (the genre being Bioware Game) not a world changing ground breaking piece of art. To put this in context, I liked DA2 as an entry in the series despite its obvious flaws because it also did some interesting new things and I enjoyed hanging around with those characters. To me, ME:A feels like it's setting up to be similar quality on a different axis. Where DA2 fell down on environments ME:A seems like it's going to fall down on polish.

As many posters have confirmed, there are a lot of animation problems. Some strange lip things, some weird face stuff, some strange walks. This definitely feels like a story being acted out by dolls. If that bothers you this is not the game for you. (The infamous PeeBee backwards gun made it into the trial.) I will say that the faces generally do a better job than Horizon: Clenched Teeth.

The combat is fun. Zipping around with the jump and boost is exciting and the soft cover worked well for me. Your squad mates don't have shield stripping abilities in the demo which is annoying if you were gonna be a biotic. I am looking forward to unlocking more abilities and playing mix and match across classes.

The Nexus is like the Citadel and brings back the worst of the sidequests there: "Walk from this place to that place often through a loading screen, making no decisions, to advance." The trial doesn't offer any truly interesting multiple outcome quests. I hope the main game has more.

The upgrade system is going to be a pain. There are so many resources and currencies involved and the interface is pretty hard to go through. It probably won't be as bad as ME 1 but it's not as streamlined as ME 2. The plus side is there are A LOT of guns and upgrades which should be fun to play around with. On Hardcore the guns you start with end up feeling pretty wimpy and a bunch of guys end up being kind of bullet spongey.

The writing is mixed. Tonally, it's more of an adventure story than ME1-3. It feels more personal than ME so far (part of what reminds me of DA2). We've gotten hints that untangling your dad's legacy and caring for your sibling will be big parts of this, and the dynamics of the Nexus and the colonists feel like family squabbles. A lot of people know your family and have opinions about your dad and you not living up to him. You don't command respect here except for from the desperate. There are Whedonesque jokes that don't always land. There are problems where lines trigger on top of other lines (scanning-the thing you want to do while listening to recordings is a big cause of this when a scan triggers a line that cuts off other lines). I don't know yet how well realized these characters are. We've only just met them.

Overall, I had a good time and I am looking forward to the full release. There are plenty of stories that I am curious about how they end up, and I really liked zipping around and blasting dudes, grabbing them and tossing them around. I hope that the game stays at the more personal level (I am sick of saving worlds and galaxies). There is a lot wrong with the game, and I'm confirming here a lot of what other people have said. This is a flawed game that seems like it's going to do some interesting things.

Luceid
Jan 20, 2005

Buy some freaking medicine.

BrianWilly posted:

It's been a rough day, Bryder.

Pisspants Ryder in the helmet is absolutely incredible, your playthrough is going to be a blessed one.

Rotten Red Rod
Mar 5, 2002

doingitwrong posted:

I hope that the game stays at the more personal level (I am sick of saving worlds and galaxies).

I was really hoping for a Mass Effect "Firefly" game where you're just tooling around the galaxy in an outdated ship, taking odd jobs and bounties. The setting is screaming out for it especially after the grungier parts of ME2. So this plot where you're once again some sort of ill-defined chosen one was kind of disappointing to me.

Milkfred E. Moore
Aug 27, 2006

'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'

CJ posted:

This is reassuring. Some of my favorite space operas have poetry.

what

what poetry is she talking about? "we're nothing until we're bacteria"?

?????

Zzulu
May 15, 2009

(▰˘v˘▰)
I never got particularly sold on DA:I. I found it a competent game but once it was over it was like "OK I GUESS"

I feel like ME:A is a step above DA:I so far but that might just be because I like sci-fi a lot more than fantasy..

I've also come to find Sara Ryder endearing which I really didn't think I would based on previews... "endearing" is also not something I would have ever described commander shepard as, and that's a pretty stark differece between this game and hte others. Your protagonist is coming from a really different place this time

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Gay Horney
Feb 10, 2013

by Reene
I got a krogan vanguard and some sort of short range heat assault rifle and I'm tearing poo poo up. How do I see my powers do? I have fortify but I don't know what it does exactly.

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