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A FUCKIN CANARY!! posted:LOL, I'm the only minority in town and even if I beeline straight for the item I need I can't make it through Walmart without 4-6 people asking me if I'm finding everything okay. Some of them are practically running after me to "help" me. Gorilla Salad posted:This is the sort of business logic I've never understood but have seen far too many times in my life.
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Gorilla Salad posted:This is the sort of business logic I've never understood but have seen far too many times in my life. I almost got fired once for bringing it to security's attention that someone left a suspicious bag in the women's room after a customer told me. I probably would have been dropped like a rock if that woman hadn't run up to us while the manager was talking to me and told the manager she was the one who told me about it. At the time, holiday season mind you, it was normal practice for me to be in charge of half the floor on my own with one security guy roaming about. It wasn't a small store by any means either, but I'd be swamped with work from three departments and still expected to help out with work from across the store. Retail still sucks, will probably always suck.
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When I worked at an Old Navy years ago there was one three-day weekend with a back-to-school sale and not remotely enough people to deal with the rush. We were always aware of shrink (the number of items lost per week was the password to the stockroom, it got updated about four times a year) and that weekend the losses went through the roof and the new management wised up. Well, that's my retail story. Here's some schadenfreude, outdated but still pretty good. https://twitter.com/Slade/status/834802177843527683
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In case you were unaware, Steve Bannon invested $60 million from Goldman Sachs into a World of Warcraft gold-farming site. Goes as expected... (It's long, but worth the read. Very interesting) This poo poo-for-brains has our presidents ear, ladies and gentlemen.
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Gorilla Salad posted:This is the sort of business logic I've never understood but have seen far too many times in my life. You don't actually have to be smart to climb the corporate ladder. You just have to be shameless enough to cast blame anywhere but yourself and willing to gently caress up a bunch of other people's lives anytime something goes wrong.
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Mar 17, 2017 09:48
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Not quite sure what the schadenfreude is here? Is it the cop pulling the guy over for not yielding to the ambulance? If so, that cop is an idiot. Emergency lights don't automatically mean we have the right-of-way. The driver of that car did nothing wrong but being an rear end in a top hat. gently caress him for sure, regardless.
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Mar 17, 2017 10:04
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Looks like Ontario. You are definitely legally required to yield to emergency vehicles. You could maybe argue the first didn't see the ambulance until it was too late. No excuse for the second fuckman. What backwater hole do you live in where stopping for an ambulance is optional?
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Mar 17, 2017 10:15
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JoelJoel posted:Looks like Ontario. You are definitely legally required to yield to emergency vehicles. You could maybe argue the first didn't see the ambulance until it was too late. No excuse for the second fuckman.  And to be fair, while it IS technically optional, we (the people in the ambulance) hate people who don't yield, and the cops aren't fans of them either. Still, there's no law on our books here in the US (that I'm aware of) that makes not yielding illegal. Related. A coworker of mine was driving the ambulance with his partner and a patient in the back. Patient was in bad shape, lights on, sirens, the whole shabang. They stopped at an intersection (red for them), looked, proceeded through, and was promptly broadsided by some dipshit not paying attention. Guess who was at fault? It's a hosed system, but whatever.
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Mar 17, 2017 10:18
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Zipperelli. posted:Emergency lights don't automatically mean we have the right-of-way. The driver of that car did nothing wrong but being an rear end in a top hat. Huh? Is this sovereign citizen stuff? Is this based on some kind of sea law?
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Mar 17, 2017 10:19
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Zipperelli. posted:
Pretty certain that's based on state. Massachusetts, for example, has a requirement to yield for emergency vehicles that are using their siren. Same with Indiana.
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Garrand posted:Pretty certain that's based on state. Massachusetts, for example, has a requirement to yield for emergency vehicles that are using their siren. Same with Indiana. Yup, varies by state. For example, https://www.oregonlaws.org/ors/811.145
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PostNouveau posted:Huh? Is this sovereign citizen stuff? Is this based on some kind of sea law? As far as I know, only police with blue lights get guaranteed right-of-way. Here in Florida, fire/rescue vehicles don't. Light and sirens for us mean we're requesting it. That's like, day 1 of EMT school. Obviously this could have changed in the 7 years since I went through it, but if it has, the cops around here don't give a single gently caress about people not yielding. They'll just get behind them, blip the siren, then roll out. Edit: quote:Upon the immediate approach of an authorized emergency vehicle, while en route to meet an existing emergency, the driver of every other vehicle shall, when such emergency vehicle is giving audible signals by siren, exhaust whistle, or other adequate device, or visible signals by the use of displayed blue or red lights, yield the right-of-way to the emergency vehicle and shall immediately proceed to a position parallel to, and as close as reasonable to the closest edge of the curb of the roadway, clear of any intersection and shall stop and remain in position until the authorized emergency vehicle has passed, unless otherwise directed by a law enforcement officer. So I was wrong, it's only when we're headed TO an emergency. Apparently not if we've already grabbed them and are transporting. gently caress this stupid rear end state. Zipperelli. has a new favorite as of 10:27 on Mar 17, 2017 |
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Zipperelli. posted:Here in Florida, found it
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Zipperelli. posted:
There's laws in a bunch of states (most, as far as I know) that dictate either moving over for emergency vehicles or even stating what lanes you have rights to if there is an emergency vehicle on the road. I got pulled over in Arizona once because I drove by a stopped vehicle on the highway because I was going over 40mph, but not in the far lane.
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Zipperelli. posted:As far as I know, only police with blue lights get guaranteed right-of-way. Here in Florida, fire/rescue vehicles don't. Light and sirens for us mean we're requesting it. That's like, day 1 of EMT school. Obviously this could have changed in the 7 years since I went through it, but if it has, the cops around here don't give a single gently caress about people not yielding. They'll just get behind them, blip the siren, then roll out. Nooooope quote:(1)(a) Upon the immediate approach of an authorized emergency vehicle, while en route to meet an existing emergency, the driver of every other vehicle shall, when such emergency vehicle is giving audible signals by siren, exhaust whistle, or other adequate device, or visible signals by the use of displayed blue or red lights, yield the right-of-way to the emergency vehicle and shall immediately proceed to a position parallel to, and as close as reasonable to the closest edge of the curb of the roadway, clear of any intersection and shall stop and remain in position until the authorized emergency vehicle has passed, unless otherwise directed by a law enforcement officer. http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=0300-0399/0316/Sections/0316.126.html
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Zipperelli. posted:As far as I know, only police with blue lights get guaranteed right-of-way. Here in Florida, fire/rescue vehicles don't. Light and sirens for us mean we're requesting it. That's like, day 1 of EMT school. Obviously this could have changed in the 7 years since I went through it, but if it has, the cops around here don't give a single gently caress about people not yielding. They'll just get behind them, blip the siren, then roll out. After a quick search I found http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=0300-0399/0316/Sections/0316.126.html quote:Upon the immediate approach of an authorized emergency vehicle, while en route to meet an existing emergency, the driver of every other vehicle shall, when such emergency vehicle is giving audible signals by siren, exhaust whistle, or other adequate device, or visible signals by the use of displayed blue or red lights, yield the right-of-way to the emergency vehicle and shall immediately proceed to a position parallel to, and as close as reasonable to the closest edge of the curb of the roadway, clear of any intersection and shall stop and remain in position until the authorized emergency vehicle has passed, unless otherwise directed by a law enforcement officer. It might have just been meant as less legally and more that having your siren on doesn't guarantee that people will obey the law. e: damnit
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PostNouveau posted:Nooooope Read the first like, 15 or so words REALLY carefully. Apparently this law doesn't count if we're headed to the hospital. Only on the way to the original call. Just verified with a traffic lawyer buddy of mine, and he said the same thing. The law is written really hosed up. Basically if you're on the way to the hospital, having a heart attack, our lights and sirens mean exactly dick.
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So Florida is schadenfreude?
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Zipperelli. posted:Read the first like, 15 or so words REALLY carefully. Apparently this law doesn't count if we're headed to the hospital. Only on the way to the original call. Just verified with a traffic lawyer buddy of mine, and he said the same thing. The law is written really hosed up. Pssh, the hospital is always in a state of emergency, what do they know.
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Zipperelli. posted:Read the first like, 15 or so words REALLY carefully. Apparently this law doesn't count if we're headed to the hospital. Only on the way to the original call. Just verified with a traffic lawyer buddy of mine, and he said the same thing. The law is written really hosed up. I'm sure a judge or jury will totally take the dude's side who refused to yield right of way to the emergency vehicle trying to get someone to a hospital.
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Zipperelli. posted:Read the first like, 15 or so words REALLY carefully. Apparently this law doesn't count if we're headed to the hospital. Only on the way to the original call. Just verified with a traffic lawyer buddy of mine, and he said the same thing. The law is written really hosed up. How would anyone on the road know which direction the ambulance is headed and why would going to the hospital not also be considered part of "meeting the existing emergency"? Judges have validated this dumb interpretation? Your state is stupid as poo poo dude.
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Jamfrost posted:So Florida is schadenfreude? Constantly.
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Solice Kirsk posted:I'm sure a judge or jury will totally take the dude's side who refused to yield right of way to the emergency vehicle trying to get someone to a hospital. Heh. Judges make really stupid rulings all the time. Welcome to the USA. Enjoy your stay. PostNouveau posted:Your state is stupid as poo poo dude. No poo poo Captain Obvious. We have a whole thread where we mock this shithole relentlessly. You should stop by.
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Zipperelli. posted:Heh. Judges make really stupid rulings all the time. Welcome to the USA. Enjoy your stay. Used to that, but I still don't know of any times a court of law said, "gently caress it, dude died on his way to the hospital....guess that guy in the Pilot had nothing to do with it! since they were on their way to the hospital...CASE DISMISSED!"
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Blargh, generic US law garbage. Point is, you have to move over for emergency vehicles. We can bring individual state law into whatever, but regardless of written law, you're always gonna be hosed if you didn't yield/make way for an emergency vehicle in the US.
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Once again, it's you, America. Please don't nuke the rest of us.
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JoelJoel posted:Once again, it's you, America. poo poo, it's not a matter of if anymore, it's when  Just look at that face. He's dying to fire off a few nukes.
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Whether it's illegal or not, if you don't let an emergency vehicle through you're a poo poo.
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cohsae posted:Whether it's illegal or not, if you don't let an emergency vehicle through you're a poo poo. Came to post this.
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A FUCKIN CANARY!! posted:LOL, I'm the only minority in town and even if I beeline straight for the item I need I can't make it through Walmart without 4-6 people asking me if I'm finding everything okay. Some of them are practically running after me to "help" me. You should try being white. Then you can just walk out of the store with 60 inch tvs and no one will notice! When I worked retail, the LP training video for the Midwest big box home improvement store I worked at showed security tape of people doing just that. If you are white and look confident enough, you can wheel that baby right out to your car without anyone questioning you apparently.
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cohsae posted:Whether it's illegal or not, if you don't let an emergency vehicle through you're a poo poo. You know when you're at a red light and an ambulance comes up behind the row of cars and everyone walks through the red light to get out of it's way? We have automatic red light cameras in the UK. Enjoy your fine, points on your license, and loss of job if a clean license was a requirement!
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Ak Gara posted:You know when you're at a red light and an ambulance comes up behind the row of cars and everyone walks through the red light to get out of it's way? No?
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Ak Gara posted:You know when you're at a red light and an ambulance comes up behind the row of cars and everyone walks through the red light to get out of it's way? No traffic court?
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Ak Gara posted:You know when you're at a red light and an ambulance comes up behind the row of cars and everyone walks through the red light to get out of it's way? Source? I don't believe that has ever happened to anyone. I've pulled through a few red lights for ambulances here and never been ticketed.
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Yeah gonna need a source on that - everyone goes through reds to let emergency service vehicles through, myself included.
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