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Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

I would hope that it wipes all unallocated space.

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Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



Subjunctive posted:

I would hope that it wipes all unallocated space.

This. Also depends on how you're wiping it (Pattern, number of passes, etc.)

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



Red posted:

I'm turning in a laptop to work on my last day, and using Cipher to wipe things I've deleted.

Before I went to bed, I used cipher /w:c:users - and it wasn't done like 7 hours later, but users directory isn't that big, so does Cipher wipe the entire drive regardless?

I would think it would have errored out, but you need to use valid paths using cipher. So 'cipher /w: c: \Users' <-- space is there because I can't be bothered to figure how to non-emoji it.

And not I can't see it taking that long EVER. I've also never used it other than just specifying the drive.

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


Getting a weird problem on Chrome where trying to open any non-HTTPS webpage instead loads a blank white page with "Url not found." I'm not using any proxies, hosts file is fine, changing from OpenDNS to Google DNS didn't help, basically all the stuff I could think of. It'd be less of a problem if HTTPSEverywhere actually made an effort to try to open a page in HTTPS first. Any ideas?

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum

Cup Runneth Over posted:

Getting a weird problem on Chrome where trying to open any non-HTTPS webpage instead loads a blank white page with "Url not found." I'm not using any proxies, hosts file is fine, changing from OpenDNS to Google DNS didn't help, basically all the stuff I could think of. It'd be less of a problem if HTTPSEverywhere actually made an effort to try to open a page in HTTPS first. Any ideas?
Ctrl+Shift+Delete -> the beginning of time -> all the checkboxes (except maybe passwords, if those are important to you) -> Clear browsing data

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


Sorry, should have mentioned I already did that and only use incognito mode anyway.

Khablam
Mar 29, 2012

Have you paid your bill?
Some comically bad ISPs will just block port 80.
You don't mention if this is only Chrome specifically.

Another likely option is someone had hijacked your browser, is trying to redirect every non-secure page and their resource is down.

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum

Cup Runneth Over posted:

Sorry, should have mentioned I already did that and only use incognito mode anyway.
If you're using Chrome exclusively in incognito mode then you probably have some broken extensions or you're doing something else weird you haven't mentioned. Maybe you have a Pi-hole or gently caress with your hosts file on your own.

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...
Use a different browser, and or curl/wget. Check for rogue extensions or plugins.

If you have a laptop, connect it to your network. Try and figure out if it's your network or your computer.

Speak onto the monitor "I know you're watching", see what happens.

Lain Iwakura
Aug 5, 2004

The body exists only to verify one's own existence.

Taco Defender
Another option is that your firewall has had a lovely update and it is now filtering HTTPS even though it isn't supposed to be. This happened to me earlier this year.

This also assumes you're like me and had an overkill firewall for a long time.

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


Tested it on different browsers and had the same problem, then tried connecting to my phone as a hotspot. That fixed it, so it looks like it's a problem with my router. Resetting it didn't fix it, so I'll look into it on my own. Thanks fellas, I was overthinking it.

Khablam posted:

Some comically bad ISPs will just block port 80.

Are there any other kind?

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






A rogue DNS is also possible

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

spankmeister posted:

A rogue DNS is also possible

How would that affect https and http differently? Some SNI interaction I can't quite see?

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






Subjunctive posted:

How would that affect https and http differently? Some SNI interaction I can't quite see?

Oh wait HTTPS works but plain HTTP doesn't.

Well it could still be rogue DNS if they're very careful about only modifying known http-only sites but it doesn't seem likely.

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum
I was having trouble setting up RANCID, and their documentation sucks rear end, so I thought I'd look at alternatives, and came across rConfig. It has a native web interface, and my coworkers hate Linux, so I thought I'd give it a look. Here's a few problems:
1) The install method is to download and run an installer script at http://rconfig.com/downloads/scripts/install_rConfig.sh. This script is a wrapper to determine if you have CentOS 6 or CentOS 7. You can get to this file over https, but then the script calls http://www.rconfig.com/downloads/scripts/centos7_install.sh or http://www.rconfig.com/downloads/scripts/centos6_install.sh, depending on what version of CentOS you have. I'm only going to bother with the CentOS 7 version, but I don't think there's going to be that much of a difference.
2) The next thing it does is install wget. Through yum, thankfully. Then it downloads http://www.rconfig.com/downloads/scripts/login.sh and moves it to /etc/profile.d/.
3) Then it disables SELinux by modifying /etc/selinux/config and changing 'enforcing' to 'disabled'. It then checks to see if it's set to disabled, and if it's set to permissive, this part of the script will probably fail. A backup of the original /etc/selinux/config is not saved.
4) /etc/sudoers is modified to allow the apache user access to disable requiring tty, and also allowing access to the crontab, zip, chmod, chown, whoami, wc, tail, and rm commands without a password.
5) The firewalld service is disabled and stopped. The iptables service is stopped.
6) The following repos are installed:
- epel-release, via yum install
- http://rpms.famillecollet.com/enterprise/remi-release-7.rpm, via rpm -Uvh
- https://mirror.webtatic.com/yum/el7/webtatic-release.rpm, via rpm -Uvh
- http://repo.mysql.com/mysql-community-release-el7-5.noarch.rpm, via rpm -Uvh
- https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/epel/epel-release-latest-7.noarch.rpm, via rpm -Uvh
- http://mirror.cogentco.com/pub/linux/epel/6/i386/epel-release-6-8.noarch.rpm, via rpm -ivh
7) The epel and remo repos are used to install httpd. wget is installed again. mlocate, attr, open-vm-tools, tree, the Development Tools group, ntp, sudo, telnet, bind-utils, traceroute, tree, unzip, vixie-cron, crontabs, openssl-devel, openssl, mod_ssl, vsftpd, mysql-server, mysql, mod_auth_mysql, mysql-devel, php70w-devel, php70w, php70w-gd, php70w-mbstring, php70w-mysql, php70w-pear, php70w-cli, php70w-common, and php70w-pdo are installed via yum.
8) ntp, httpd, mysqld, vsftpd, and crond are enabled and started.
9) vsftp is configured. The original /etc/vsftpd/vsftpd.conf is preserved as /etc/vsftpd/vsftpd.conf.original. The user is given the option to allow the root user access to connect over FTP.
10) ntp is configured. The user is given the option to define an ntp server, or it can use time.nist.gov.
11) The file http://www.rconfig.com/downloads/scripts/centos7_postReboot.sh is downloaded. The user is asked to reboot after the following step and run this script.
12) mysql_secure_installation is run.
13) The user reboots, and runs the post-reboot script.
14) http://www.rconfig.com/downloads/rconfig-3.6.7.zip is downloaded and unzipped into /home, creating /home/rconfig, and the apache user is assigned recursive ownership of the folder.
15) /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf is moved to /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf.original, and a new httpd.conf is moved in its place. Apache is restarted.
16) /etc/php.ini is configured. Apache is restarted.
17) SELinux is checked again by looking for a 'dot' at the end of the permissions list in ls -ahl, and if it finds one, it modifies every folder in the /home directory by removing the security.selinux attribute with setfattr.
18) The user is prompted to go to [url]https://[/url]$hostname/install to finish the installation. /home/rconfig gets chowned to the apache user again, and any shell scripts in /home are removed.

Miscellaneous comments:
You have to sign up to get the link to the download script or any installation documentation. They have a GitHub and a more recent version is allegedly in development, but it wasn't immediately clear how to deploy that, so I just went with the stable version.
When you register, they send you an email address with your username and password in it. You cannot change your password.
They have an SSL cert for https://www.rconfig.com but it expired in November of last year. They're using Let's Encrypt, so there's really no reason why they can't get it renewed, or why they can't also get one for rconfig.com. Some of their other domains also have expired certs.
There are a lot of hardcoded progress bars that don't actually do anything. Like, here's one from the first installer script, but there's one of these in almost every section of each script:
code:
OSMSG="Checking CentOS version..."
sleep 1
echo $OSMSG;
echo -ne '#####                     (33%)\r'
sleep 1
echo -ne '#############             (66%)\r'
sleep 1
echo -ne '##########################(100%)\n'
# Get major CentOS version 6 or 7
OSVERSION=$(rpm -qa \*-release | grep -Ei "oracle|redhat|centos" | cut -d"-" -f3)
etc.
With all of this in mind, I do not believe we will be using this product after all.

anthonypants fucked around with this message at 20:21 on Mar 22, 2017

Saukkis
May 16, 2003

Unless I'm on the inside curve pointing straight at oncoming traffic the high beams stay on and I laugh at your puny protest flashes.
I am Most Important Man. Most Important Man in the World.

anthonypants posted:

I was having trouble setting up RANCID, and their documentation sucks rear end, so I thought I'd look at alternatives, and came across rConfig. It has a native web interface, and my coworkers hate Linux, so I thought I'd give it a look. Here's a few problems:

With all of this in mind, I do not believe we will be using this product after all.

Have you published this rant anywhere? I want to link it to my coworkers.

That is a heroic amount of effort to do everything possible wrong.

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum

Saukkis posted:

Have you published this rant anywhere? I want to link it to my coworkers.

That is a heroic amount of effort to do everything possible wrong.
I was going to put it in the sec gently caress thread but I figured it was too much of an effortpost for YOSPOS. I don't have a blog and it's too big for twitter. Also, I don't think they'd like the URLs for their installer scripts out in the public.

I could probably put it on their GitHub issue tracker after reworking it, maybe add some suggestions, and it might be interesting to fix their garbage to the point where it works on Linux without having everything disabled, but I have very little motivation to do so.

Migishu
Oct 22, 2005

I'll eat your fucking eyeballs if you're not careful

Grimey Drawer

anthonypants posted:

I was going to put it in the sec gently caress thread but I figured it was too much of an effortpost for YOSPOS. I don't have a blog and it's too big for twitter. Also, I don't think they'd like the URLs for their installer scripts out in the public.

On the contrary. When it comes to secfucks, YOSPOS applauds effort posts. See hackbunny's posts if you don't believe.

Either way, post it in the secfuck thread

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum

Migishu posted:

On the contrary. When it comes to secfucks, YOSPOS applauds effort posts. See hackbunny's posts if you don't believe.

Either way, post it in the secfuck thread
Thank you for the flattering comparison but hackbunny is way smarter than me and that makes a huge difference.

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

anthonypants posted:

Thank you for the flattering comparison but hackbunny is way smarter than me and that makes a huge difference.

:justpost:

Don't over think it

hooah
Feb 6, 2006
WTF?
If this isn't the right thread, apologies and please let me know where to ask this instead.

Since Congress decided to gently caress over every single American Internet user today, I want to get a VPN. What's the best way to do that? I feel like I've read about putting OpenVPN on a router, but that seems counterintuitive to me - how can a VPN be on the same side of the modem as me? Besides, I'm sure my current one won't support that anyway.

The other option I'm aware of would be paying for a service, but I have no idea which companies are reputable, nor how to choose among them even if I did know that.

Please help, goons!

Rufus Ping
Dec 27, 2006





I'm a Friend of Rodney Nano

hooah posted:

I feel like I've read about putting OpenVPN on a router, but that seems counterintuitive to me - how can a VPN be on the same side of the modem as me?
you're right that in your situation you need a VPN server on the opposite side of your modem - this setup is for people who want to dial into their home network while away from home, rather than what you're doing

hooah posted:

The other option I'm aware of would be paying for a service, but I have no idea which companies are reputable, nor how to choose among them even if I did know that.
they're all poo poo

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum

hooah posted:

If this isn't the right thread, apologies and please let me know where to ask this instead.

Since Congress decided to gently caress over every single American Internet user today, I want to get a VPN. What's the best way to do that? I feel like I've read about putting OpenVPN on a router, but that seems counterintuitive to me - how can a VPN be on the same side of the modem as me? Besides, I'm sure my current one won't support that anyway.

The other option I'm aware of would be paying for a service, but I have no idea which companies are reputable, nor how to choose among them even if I did know that.

Please help, goons!
You'd put OpenVPN on your home router so when you're on Starbucks or hotel wifi you can connect to your home network securely. But after that, all your data would be transmitted from your home router to your ISP.

There are also a few tradeoffs you'll have to live with if you use a VPN service from home. Like you probably won't be able to use streaming video services, and if you plan to do anything with mobile device things only get worse.

But, like rufo says, they're all bad in one way or another. You absolutely can't trust any of the free ones, because they'll either sell your info or inject ads/malware. You can't necessarily trust any of the pay ones. You could host your own, but what endpoint do you trust? Can you use a VPN at work? Can you trust AWS/Azure/DigitalOcean?

Lain Iwakura
Aug 5, 2004

The body exists only to verify one's own existence.

Taco Defender
If someone wants to write an adequate VPN setup guide, I'm interested. Having said that, all paid VPN options as rufo adequately put it are "poo poo" and there will be no recommendations made.

c0burn
Sep 2, 2003

The KKKing
https://arstechnica.com/security/2017/03/potent-lastpass-exploit-underscores-the-dark-side-of-password-managers/

Welp.

syscall girl
Nov 7, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Fun Shoe

Keep rear end still in the clear.

DoctorTristan
Mar 11, 2006

I would look up into your lifeless eyes and wave, like this. Can you and your associates arrange that for me, Mr. Morden?

OSI bean dip posted:

Having said that, all paid VPN options as rufo adequately put it are "poo poo" and there will be no recommendations made.

Could this be added to the OP at least? It's still useful information for us non-experts.

Quaint Quail Quilt
Jun 19, 2006


Ask me about that time I told people mixing bleach and vinegar is okay
There was a goon run VPN hostvpn.com
I'm mobile it may be archived.. First month for a $0.01 if you can find the threads discount code It may have been SAGOONS

You need a pretty beefy router to dial all your networks traffic through the VPN, the 200-400mhz and poo poo ram doesn't cut it, you are better off running it on the client.

i noticed a 20-40% reduction on speed test via running it through the router.

Strangely enough my upload improved quite a bit with it, Comcast was capping certain traffic pretty hard at the time I suspect, it helped me access my bank when I thought it was down, (in retrospect that may have been risky activity)

Kerning Chameleon
Apr 8, 2015

by Cyrano4747

syscall girl posted:

Keep rear end still in the clear.

Only because LastPass is specifically being targeted by the white hats. Once they get tired of all the smug comments and decide to turn the razor on Keepass, all bet will be off, I'd say.

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy
You are aware what the difference between the two is, right?

Lain Iwakura
Aug 5, 2004

The body exists only to verify one's own existence.

Taco Defender

Kerning Chameleon posted:

Only because LastPass is specifically being targeted by the white hats. Once they get tired of all the smug comments and decide to turn the razor on Keepass, all bet will be off, I'd say.

This isn't a thread for such opinions--which are wrong. Feel free to take your (wrong) opinions here.

DoctorTristan posted:

Could this be added to the OP at least? It's still useful information for us non-experts.

Not a terrible idea. I'll add that in when I have a chance.

Khablam
Mar 29, 2012

anthonypants posted:

But, like rufo says, they're all bad in one way or another. You absolutely can't trust any of the free ones, because they'll either sell your info or inject ads/malware. You can't necessarily trust any of the pay ones. You could host your own, but what endpoint do you trust? Can you use a VPN at work? Can you trust AWS/Azure/DigitalOcean?
Problem is, if you decide you can't trust anyone to host a VPN, you are by default trusting your ISP's collection and retention instead. You don't get to opt out of trusting all your browsing habits to someone.

Is there actually anything to suggest the paid ones with provably no logging are actively bad?
Sure they could be compromised, but ISPs have a pretty poor record of holding onto customer data.

Lain Iwakura
Aug 5, 2004

The body exists only to verify one's own existence.

Taco Defender

Khablam posted:

Problem is, if you decide you can't trust anyone to host a VPN, you are by default trusting your ISP's collection and retention instead. You don't get to opt out of trusting all your browsing habits to someone.

Is there actually anything to suggest the paid ones with provably no logging are actively bad?
Sure they could be compromised, but ISPs have a pretty poor record of holding onto customer data.

You're better off just using a VPS. Paid services have all sorts of problems. If the VPN provider gets compromised then many accounts are at risk whereas hosting your own just means you're an island of many.

Mak0rz
Aug 2, 2008

😎🐗🚬


Alright how do I totally nuke my account with this service? Should I manually change all of my login info to bogus entries before cancelling or something?

Rufus Ping
Dec 27, 2006





I'm a Friend of Rodney Nano

Khablam posted:

Is there actually anything to suggest the paid ones with provably no logging are actively bad?
Sure they could be compromised, but ISPs have a pretty poor record of holding onto customer data.

Would this be the same PrivateInternetAccess who use the same single shared secret to encrypt every customer's traffic?

hooah
Feb 6, 2006
WTF?

OSI bean dip posted:

You're better off just using a VPS.

So you'd rent a VPS and then what, install OpenVPN on it? That sounds pretty doable.

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum

hooah posted:

So you'd rent a VPS and then what, install OpenVPN on it? That sounds pretty doable.
Or something like Algo, depending on what your needs are.

Khablam
Mar 29, 2012

Rufus Ping posted:

Would this be the same PrivateInternetAccess who use the same single shared secret to encrypt every customer's traffic?

I'm going to agree with other posters and say a VPS is better. The issues discussed there don't affect people using the bundled OpenVPN clients though; just using L2TP. Not sure about other vendors but PIA did discuss this after people misattributed that article to their client.
That said the article there (and common sense) suggests if you're just trying to cloak your data from your ISP, it's a workable solution. No one is recommending it against oppressive regimes (inb4 lol trump) or using it to hide whistle-blowers.

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

Khablam posted:

I'm going to agree with other posters and say a VPS is better. The issues discussed there don't affect people using the bundled OpenVPN clients though; just using L2TP. Not sure about other vendors but PIA did discuss this after people misattributed that article to their client.
That said the article there (and common sense) suggests if you're just trying to cloak your data from your ISP, it's a workable solution. No one is recommending it against oppressive regimes (inb4 lol trump) or using it to hide whistle-blowers.

Worth mentioning that L2TP is also considered insecure anyway now.

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Beffica
Apr 6, 2009

by Azathoth
I hadn't updated my video drivers in a while and ended up getting flagged for what I didn't immediately realize were false positives which I ended up removing instead of leaving quarantined, one of the entries was a Windows Defender exclusion for my Intel Bluetooth, do I need to go back into my registry and fix this to keep my Bluetooth healthy or should I be fine leaving it alone?

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