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Spikeguy posted:Hell I missed the part where someone says that the game retroactively ruined me 1-3. And besides: rear end Defect: Disastermoda retroactively ruined my fourth birthday party.
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Avalerion posted:Might have been the genophage one? The krogan just... got better during the time spend in cryo, so it's no longer a thing. Their birth chance went to 4%. That's not really a super rate, even if it is tons better than the 1 ‰ from before.
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Serf posted:Which is like the dumbest thing ever too. How the gently caress would they experience any biological changes while literally frozen.. Just say the AIs came up with a solution because they're super smart and the trip took 600 years. Or poo poo, Krogan live for thousands of years anyways, they could've just figured it out themselves along the way. They say they're undergoing experimental gene therapy while in the sleep pods. Which is still very handwave-y, admittedly.
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Mar 17, 2017 20:58
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Serf posted:The thing is that making games in the same genre as Bioware and Bethesda is hard and expensive. And they kinda cornered the market on them a long time ago apparently because no one wants to make games that try to compete with them. Well, the competition door for space RPG's is wide open after this debacle. Call in the reinforcements for companies that hire anyone over the age of 12.
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Mar 17, 2017 20:59
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But Mass Effect is all about hard science without hand waving right? *uses literal space magic to fling person away*
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Mar 17, 2017 20:59
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Mymla posted:I don't like that he's a dude, but I could deal with that if he didn't also read like a 15 year old boy's original D&D character. e: Oh yeah, is anyone gonna make an ME:A multiplayer thread?
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Mar 17, 2017 21:01
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Doctor Spaceman posted:They linked to stuff which was speculation based on spoilery things that happened in the trial section. I think that was me trying to find anything which would make a goon so upset, and it was still stretching it. When what really upset them was when goons stopped caring about that "The Persecution and Assassination of Bioware as Performed by the Inmates of the Asylum of Edmonton Under the Direction of the Mac de Walters" diatribe.
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Mar 17, 2017 21:02
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Hulk Krogan posted:They say they're undergoing experimental gene therapy while in the sleep pods. Which is still very handwave-y, admittedly. Increasing your viable birthrate by 4x and no longer living on Death Planet Tuchanka would probably do wonders for your population growth
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Mar 17, 2017 21:02
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So i accidentally left my game running and my time ran out before i could even run around the nexus. I'm guessing deleting and redownloading won't work eh?
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Mar 17, 2017 21:04
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wonder why bioware and bethesda are movin towards more bland illusory choice in their dialogue rather than distinct illusory choice. now that there's no jerk options But several shades of good seems like ur character is basically the same through multiple playthroughs even if the choices were never gonna change anyway~ Paragon and renegade werent the best but they were pretty entertaining
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Mar 17, 2017 21:06
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GET MY BELT SON posted:So i accidentally left my game running and my time ran out before i could even run around the nexus. I'm glad I'm not the only person that did this. I remade my character because she was ugly AF and I hadn't gotten far enough for the game to save when I had to leave the house so I thought "no problem I'll just leave it running." When I got home and my brain put two and two together I felt like a loving idiot.
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Mar 17, 2017 21:06
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Hulk Krogan posted:They say they're undergoing experimental gene therapy while in the sleep pods. Which is still very handwave-y, admittedly. That tracks somewhat better than what I initially heard, which was that krogan biology is self correcting (I think this was in ME2), and they fixed themselves somewhat along the way. Still begs the question of how a popsicle is getting experimented on but whatever. Really the trend with Andromeda seems to be giving the dumbest explanations for everything. The Initiative didn't leave fleeing the Reapers, which would have made a fuckload more sense, no they left because they just wanted to gently caress off to another galaxy because some human CEO thought it would be cool. Why are there all these pre-existing Milky Way structures and people out there in a game ostensibly about being a pathfinder? Well of course you arrived late, but nobody else showed up and some folks left and put all this familiar poo poo around the place because we're too lazy to make more than 2 new aliens. Seriously, even if it was just that the human ark showed up late and the rest of the species had gone buck wild on Andromeda and now you're dealing with some Forever War stuff, that would've been better than this.
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Mar 17, 2017 21:05
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Serf posted:Which is like the dumbest thing ever too. How the gently caress would they experience any biological changes while literally frozen.. Just say the AIs came up with a solution because they're super smart and the trip took 600 years. Or poo poo, Krogan live for thousands of years anyways, they could've just figured it out themselves along the way. I feel like they didn't even need to come up with a handwavey solution to make it work. Just be like "we sent one of our fertile females on the expedition because it was important for [reason]" Unless I forget how the genophage works
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Mar 17, 2017 21:06
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They should have just made the entire game about krogan traveling to andromeda to be conquerors and they could bring those dinosaur mounts that were cloned in ME3 and then we wouldn't have to deal with lovely looking human faces.
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Mar 17, 2017 21:07
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Cowcaster posted:personally, to advertise bioware products mostly Anyone that visits NeoGaf should have their internet taken away. Forever.
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Mar 17, 2017 21:08
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From what I recall, the Genophage actually just set the krogans viable birth rate to be about equal with the rest of the intelligent races in the milky way, but Krogans being krogans it wasn't enough to keep population steady. Before that, one female could have thousands of children easily.
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Mar 17, 2017 21:10
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Slim Killington posted:I'm glad I'm not the only person that did this. I remade my character because she was ugly AF and I hadn't gotten far enough for the game to save when I had to leave the house so I thought "no problem I'll just leave it running." Yea I feel like a dope
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Mar 17, 2017 21:10
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I want more spoilers! Rather have them leave after ME3, as a sort of plan B.
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Mar 17, 2017 21:11
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Ainsley McTree posted:I feel like they didn't even need to come up with a handwavey solution to make it work. Just be like "we sent one of our fertile females on the expedition because it was important for [reason]" This is also a better explanation. Turbl posted:They should have just made the entire game about krogan traveling to andromeda to be conquerors and they could bring those dinosaur mounts that were cloned in ME3 and then we wouldn't have to deal with lovely looking human faces. Bioware hire this person.
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Mar 17, 2017 21:12
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Serf posted:Watching Austin Walker try to replicate PeeBee's teeth-baring face was some funny poo poo. Aloy from Horizon has crooked bottom teeth, even. I thought that was a nice touch to have since everyone usually has perfect straight teeth. Though her having all her teeth and them be super white doesn't make sense in the game setting, but one thing at a time. I decided to pass on the EA early access because I'm going to get this on the PS4 and don't want to have to redo everything or get some cool MP pack that I can't keep using. Looking forward to Tuesday!
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TEENAGE WITCH posted:wonder why bioware and bethesda are movin towards more bland illusory choice in their dialogue rather than distinct illusory choice. It sucks because it means we wont get anything like this again https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQI4G_fXokc
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It does seem like they're leaning towards an ulterior motive for the Andromeda initiative, though they don't really tell you enough to know what it is yet.
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Utnayan posted:Anyone that visits NeoGaf should have their internet taken away. People joke about SA being somewhat of an echo chamber, but wow, neogaf's on a whole 'nother level.
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Mar 17, 2017 21:14
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i want this game to b a hot mess like dragon age 2, not a dumb one like fallout 4
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Mar 17, 2017 21:14
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AngryBooch posted:A lot of folks like to talk poo poo on Bioware and Bethesda games They're bad quote:and talk up other games that don't do remotely the same things Be bad? quote:at the same production values. Be bad and expensive? quote:There was this weird Mass Effect rip-off that was based on Greek Mythology called Rise of the Argonauts, it was real bad. Sounds like a Bioware or Bethesda game: bad.
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Mar 17, 2017 21:15
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Porpoise With A Purpose posted:From what I recall, the Genophage actually just set the krogans viable birth rate to be about equal with the rest of the intelligent races in the milky way, but Krogans being krogans it wasn't enough to keep population steady. Before that, one female could have thousands of children easily. The reason Mordin Did Nothing Wrong is that the Council Races set themselves up for a lose-lose situation. The Krogan were still operating on the rules of their planet, which was super dangerous to the point that they had to have thousands of kids at a time because natural hazards would kill off the vast majority of them. When they uplifted the Krogans to fight the Rachni, they had to choose between "keep letting them have thousands of kids, all of which will survive to maturity now, and they will take over the Milky Way" or "pseudo-sterilize them so that Krogan population grows at the same rate as everyone else".
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Porpoise With A Purpose posted:It does seem like they're leaning towards an ulterior motive for the Andromeda initiative, though they don't really tell you enough to know what it is yet. I know they're gonna ruin it with some cloak and dagger poo poo concerning DadRyder or whatever, but as it is, the hilarious failure of this private colonization endeavor could've made for a halfway decent critique of capitalism.
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Porpoise With A Purpose posted:It does seem like they're leaning towards an ulterior motive for the Andromeda initiative, though they don't really tell you enough to know what it is yet. they do mention in a codex entry that the Initiative receives a huge increase in funding in the early 2180s so it's possible it got co-opted as a Reaper escape plan
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Mar 17, 2017 21:16
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Heaven help me I still want a pet pyjack and the multiplayer even though I'm so down about the single player.
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marshmallow creep posted:Heaven help me I still want a pet pyjack and the multiplayer even though I'm so down about the single player. you've got a problem, friend
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Codependent Poster posted:Aloy from Horizon has crooked bottom teeth, even. I thought that was a nice touch to have since everyone usually has perfect straight teeth. Have you ever seen pictures of native tribes people today? Lotta shiny white teeth. Refined sugar is a hell of a drug. It's not unrealistic at all.
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precision posted:The reason Mordin Did Nothing Wrong is that the Council Races set themselves up for a lose-lose situation. The Krogan were still operating on the rules of their planet, which was super dangerous to the point that they had to have thousands of kids at a time because natural hazards would kill off the vast majority of them. When they uplifted the Krogans to fight the Rachni, they had to choose between "keep letting them have thousands of kids, all of which will survive to maturity now, and they will take over the Milky Way" or "pseudo-sterilize them so that Krogan population grows at the same rate as everyone else". This is a cool nuanced detail that gets absolutely flushed down the toilet and neglected in ME3
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Serf posted:The Initiative didn't leave fleeing the Reapers, which would have made a fuckload more sense, no they left because they just wanted to gently caress off to another galaxy because some human CEO thought it would be cool. And that CEO's name? Armistan Banes.
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precision posted:The reason Mordin Did Nothing Wrong is that the Council Races set themselves up for a lose-lose situation. The Krogan were still operating on the rules of their planet, which was super dangerous to the point that they had to have thousands of kids at a time because natural hazards would kill off the vast majority of them. When they uplifted the Krogans to fight the Rachni, they had to choose between "keep letting them have thousands of kids, all of which will survive to maturity now, and they will take over the Milky Way" or "pseudo-sterilize them so that Krogan population grows at the same rate as everyone else". It's gotta be hella depressing to know that the vast majority of your children won't even be born alive though, so I can see why the krogan would be pissed.
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Kirios posted:you've got a problem, friend  I know.I'm probably going to get this game at some point, but I really think I will delay it at least until I have a video card that doesn't lock me to the absolute lowest settings on everything, and hopefully a bunch of stuff gets patched. As people keep saying, there just aren't enough people that make these kinds of games, and it'll be at least two years before I get to see what's happening with the next Dragon Age, if this debacle doesn't somehow destroy the company in some spectacular way.
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marshmallow creep posted:Heaven help me I still want a pet pyjack and the multiplayer even though I'm so down about the single player. why would you even want a pet pyjack one of the best things about mass effect was the minigame where you blew them up with rocket launchers
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Stroop There It Is posted:Yeah see this is why I can't get through any of The Witcher games, complete with all the HOT SEXXXY SORCERESSES (yes I know there's a lore reason and yes I think it's stupid, much like the Asari's gimmick) and a bit too much "grimdark" misogyny for my tastes (it's fine that it's part of the setting, but it's just a little too edgelordy for me). And also the fact that I play RPGs to design and play my own character, and I'm loving bored of playing white cis straight dudes. 
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Pattonesque posted:they do mention in a codex entry that the Initiative receives a huge increase in funding in the early 2180s so it's possible it got co-opted as a Reaper escape plan Yeah I'm betting on this being at least one of the minor "twists" or plot points or whatever. The timing of a massive lifeboat initiative launching less than a year before the Reapers arrive is just way too perfect to be a coincidence.
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Serf posted:That tracks somewhat better than what I initially heard, which was that krogan biology is self correcting (I think this was in ME2), and they fixed themselves somewhat along the way. Still begs the question of how a popsicle is getting experimented on but whatever. Why would the Andromeda Initiative be about escaping the Reapers when A) Very few people know or believe the Reapers exist before ME3 and by then it's too late for a project of this scope B) The whole point of Andromeda is to flush the reviled parts of the franchise. Such as Reapers Like yeah probably a few higher ups or investors knew but that's about it
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precision posted:The reason Mordin Did Nothing Wrong is that the Council Races set themselves up for a lose-lose situation. The Krogan were still operating on the rules of their planet, which was super dangerous to the point that they had to have thousands of kids at a time because natural hazards would kill off the vast majority of them. When they uplifted the Krogans to fight the Rachni, they had to choose between "keep letting them have thousands of kids, all of which will survive to maturity now, and they will take over the Milky Way" or "pseudo-sterilize them so that Krogan population grows at the same rate as everyone else". Yeah, the frog people who can punch hard will take over the galaxy. Our intergalactic warships are no match for their strong punching.
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