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This show is odd in that people are right, it doesn;t start to drag with the later episodes the same way the other netflix shows did, but at the same time you could probably start on episode 4 and not really miss anything. Skipping the 2nd episode would be a blessing, anyway. I do enjoy it overall.
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Percelus posted:having watched more of dexter than i care to admit, the showrunner. the way everyone was so blind to dexter murdering people left and right despite all the warning signs and legitimate accusations hurled at him early on, they were basically the most comically inept pd on any tv show ever You've never watched any episodes of Lucifer, I take it?
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yeah danny was never the most exciting character, i'm p sure that is why they had to merge his series with luke cage decades ago. shang-chi has a much better backstory, being the son of a crime lord trained from birth to be the ultimate weapon. better than another batman begins/arrow tale of white guy billionaire trained in martial arts at least.
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I think Iron Fist will work better in the Defenders, as he can play up the naive hero act against 3 solidly anti-heroes.
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Mar 17, 2017 22:31
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danny isn't the best main protagonist but my enjoyment of the show is enhanced when i imagine that ward is donald trump and harold is fred
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Mar 17, 2017 22:42
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I like that the thread title never got changed. The thread isn't even ready for a kung fu white man.
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Gyges posted:I like that the thread title never got changed. The thread isn't even ready for a kung fu white man. tbqh iron fist always felt like luke cage's dumb new age sidekick
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Mar 17, 2017 22:44
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The beginning of episode 8 shocked me. I recognize that it is stupid that it shocked me, but it did.
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Mar 17, 2017 22:53
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Nelson Mandingo posted:I think Iron Fist will work better in the Defenders, as he can play up the naive hero act against 3 solidly anti-heroes. yea I think it'll be genuinely neat to see this Iron Fist hang out with this version of Luke and Jessica and Dare Devil.
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Percelus posted:tbqh iron fist always felt like luke cage's dumb new age sidekick As for the show, I didn't like Luke Cage and I haven't even watched Jessica Jones, but I did like this so far. It isn't the best show of the bunch, that's still Season 1 Daredevil, but it has its moments.
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Mar 17, 2017 23:05
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E7 question: do later episodes explain why Gao had no apparent connection to the Hand in either season of Daredevil, given that she clearly does here?
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Mar 17, 2017 23:20
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Percelus posted:so are the negative reviews mostly a reaction to a white guy doing kung fu? i don't understand how asian people doing kung fu is a racial stereotype but the moment a white person does kung fu it's white washing. i do understand being frustrated there are still no top billed asian actors in the mcu though. Pretty much. Every criticism of the show that has to do with how "white" Danny's behavior is encapsulates your guess.
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I guess I'm confused (on episode 10): So did Danny punch a dragon, become the Iron Fist, and then immediately leave? Why doesn't he know anything beyond what appears to be the most basic glowy punch? He is the worst Iron Fist. SonicRulez fucked around with this message at 00:25 on Mar 18, 2017 |
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Mar 18, 2017 00:03
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It gets better after the first couple episodes. Also, in episode 7, that quick moment he takes to recollect himself in the car, looking at his personal account balance, was hilarious.
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Mar 18, 2017 00:44
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I honestly don't see the problems with the series because I am on Episode 2 and This is completely believable and the correst approach for a psychiatric doctor to think. I am not joking when I say that this is just unnecessary backlash to this show and it's really weird cause it's pretty decent. The show takes a super realistic approach to Danny Rand returning and I think people find this offputting.
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Mar 18, 2017 00:47
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I swear to christ, would it have killed Finn Jones to tone up for playing this role? The most unbelievable part of Iron Fist's magical punch man ability is every time this dude takes off his shirt.
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That was good. Not better than the first half of Luke Cage, but better than Luke Cage as a whole.
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Mar 18, 2017 00:54
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VanillaGorilla posted:I swear to christ, would it have killed Finn Jones to tone up for playing this role? The most unbelievable part of Iron Fist's magical punch man ability is every time this dude takes off his shirt. There are a lot of problems with Finn Jones' Iron Fist. But goddamn if I don't love the hell out of every instance of [post episode 3] little kid in a business suit that happens while he's "working" at Rand. Oooh, Stickers!
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Mar 18, 2017 01:00
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I really don't get the hate of this series.
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Mar 18, 2017 01:06
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Dave Brookshaw posted:Lol. Maybe watch more than one episode, man. On episode 9 now, and I'd love some of what you're smoking. Exposition about supernatural elements that aren't actually shown plus five or six glowy fist scenes does not equate to embracing the supernatural aspects of the source material. It's basically the bare minimum that could be done without excising those elements entirely.
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Mar 18, 2017 01:07
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Watched the first three, I think its decent. Maybe it goes downhill, don't think it deserves the flack from what I've seen several far.
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Mar 18, 2017 01:25
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Xillah posted:Watched the first three, I think its decent. Maybe it goes downhill, don't think it deserves the flack from what I've seen several far. Yeah, I can understand the backlash but being a comic nerd I think it's a great adaptation so far.
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Mar 18, 2017 01:29
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I feel like folks are massively reframing the sticking point of those early reviews - which was that pretty much every critic formed a consensus that this show was just astoundingly mediocre with poor writing, a miscast lead incapable of elevating it, and poorly done action scenes. Not that it was "the worst show ever conceived" or some thing. The reason it was noteworthy was due to the quantity of reviews sharing that same assessment, not the actual level of negativity.
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Mar 18, 2017 01:30
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It's good, and doesn't deserve the lashing that it got. It's not as good as Daredevil or Luke Cage - I agree with people who say that if Iron Fist had come earlier in the sequence it would have fared better. Also, Finn Jones really is the first casting mistake I think they've made. He's just not good, and it kinda bums me out that we'll be stuck with him in Defenders too. Every scene he's in, every supporting actor just runs rings around him and it's just kinda sad.
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Mar 18, 2017 01:32
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Slow, slow slow slow slow slow SLOW Where is the loving martial arts? SLOW
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Mar 18, 2017 01:40
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Hollismason posted:Yeah, I can understand the backlash but being a comic nerd I think it's a great adaptation so far. Never read the comic, didn't even know the origin story, I'm digging it. Couldn't watch a 22 episode season over 6 months, 13 episode binge over a week or two? No bother. Rand is such a loving moron mind, watching the first part of episode 4 the most surprising thing that could happen is Harold to actually be decent.
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Oh Snapple! posted:I feel like folks are massively reframing the sticking point of those early reviews - which was that pretty much every critic formed a consensus that this show was just astoundingly mediocre with poor writing, a miscast lead incapable of elevating it, and poorly done action scenes. Not that it was "the worst show ever conceived" or some thing. The reason it was noteworthy was due to the quantity of reviews sharing that same assessment, not the actual level of negativity. Most people don't read the reviews, the general consensus is drawn from the headlines and the first couple lines. Then all the aggregators bundle things up and add their own titles. Which drove the narrative from "nothing special with a few issues" to "Marvel hosed up: the Iron Fist fiasco". Which by now reviewers, aggregators, and consumers should all understand is how it works, but that still remains not the case. Expect a bunch of articles questioning whether critics are idiots by next week, which will also miss the point. Though there is a valid argument to be had over whether pumping out reviews based on 6 episodes of a series needs to be reexamined. Iron Fist seems fairly consistent so far, but the other Netflix Marvel shows have had notable issues in the back half of the season, and perhaps a single sentence about how maybe things'll change isn't sufficient after watching less than 50% of a show.
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Yeah I think the whole realist approach to someone coming back from the dead is more off-putting but it makes sense.
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This is by far the worst opening credits of any of the Netflix series though. Jesus, it's like they saw the Daredevil opening, missed the point, and figured a kung fu wax action figure would just knock the socks off everyone. At least give me some color other than black ink.
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Mar 18, 2017 01:53
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That first episode was pretty good, what's the deal with all the critic hate? That was on par with the first episodes from the rest of the Netflix Marvels. Going to watch the others now because I guess I'm the target audience or something.
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Mar 18, 2017 01:57
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Only one episode in so far, but as pilots go I'm liking it well enough. Everyone is acting in reasonable ways given what they know and the action scenes are sparse but I like how they differentiate from Murdock/Jones/Cage.
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Four episodes in and this just doesn't work. there isn't any tension here. I don't care about Danny or any of these characters, and it's no "fault" of those characters themselves.
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Hollismason posted:I honestly don't see the problems with the series because I am on Episode 2 and This is completely believable and the correst approach for a psychiatric doctor to think.
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achillesforever6 posted:Actually I've seen a lot of people from the mental health community write about how much they hated that episode I don't know why I mean that's a pretty reasonable stance to take Spoiler Episode 2 Perfectly reasonable for a Doctor to think he is mentally ill and suffering from PTSD
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achillesforever6 posted:Actually I've seen a lot of people from the mental health community write about how much they hated that episode Do you have any links? I'd love to hear/read their take.
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Mar 18, 2017 02:31
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'Will Danny Rand get his company back?" doesn't really work. Should have given it back to him right away, leaving him to find out that he kind of hates this poo poo, while chasing him with some other sort of threat.
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I think there are a lot of fight scenes in the back half that are pretty darn entertaining. The drunken master. The two fights with and the one against Davos. Anytime Colleen does basically anything. And I think this one might have the best romantic subplot of any of the MCU.
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I reallly really like Colleen Wing. So that's a major plus I am binging through hardcore and I am really enjoying it.
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Episode 10 was good. Gao: That is because you are a child, Danny. Danny: (stamping his feet and scrunching up his face like a little baby) At least I'm not in prison!!!! also Colleen: I cared about you before I was ordered to, Danny. Danny: Was that before or after you learned about the fist? 
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