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Zakmonster
Apr 15, 2010

Random rear end in a top hat posted:

Welp, won my first Silver multiplayer match and MP is officially fun now. I guess it just 100% came down to the starter gear being utter poo poo, which... is an odd design choice, but whatever! It's pretty fun now!

To think, I finished all the SP content with 5 hours left and was pretty disappointed. Now I'm deeply regretful I only have like an hour left to last me until Monday-ish. :(

Quite a turnaround from having literally zero interest in MP before trying it to get SP item boxes (which seem to almost always be weapons, which make the other rewards look like poo poo!).


Yeah, the starter gear has always been poo poo. My suggestion is to buy the cheapest pack (the one that costs 5000 credits) until you have a couple of weapons at rank 5 or higher. Having your dude be at higher level also helps immensely.

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Zelder
Jan 4, 2012

Number Ten Cocks posted:

A recap:

A: (Repetitive posting)

B: Your posts aren't funny, A.

C: Yo, B, stop telling him his opinions aren't valid!

D: I hope you realize, my boy C, that a challenge to his posts' humor content says nothing about the validity of the underlying opinions, you mentally incompetent slug.

C, et al: :confused:

one of the stranger meltdowns

marshmallow creep
Dec 10, 2008

I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me

Note, when you have a quest to go find people in the desert, don't forget your car, because parts of the quest can be timed. :v:

Decius
Oct 14, 2005

Ramrod XTreme

SurreptitiousMuffin posted:

All the complaining about dialogue, and nobody has brought up "Huh, I think I really pissed that one off. Maybe because I shot him in the face!"

It would almost be funny if the VA had been instructed to make it hammy and ridiculous, but it's played super seriously.

In other news, Reddit is unhappy about very different things than we are.

Thing is, I have a similar - or rather the exact opposite - complaint. I originally wanted to play Sara Ryder as Sub-Saharan African woman. But the skin tone scale doesn't really go into really dark skin tones, it ends a bit darker than Liam, which is a bit disappointing.

marshmallow creep
Dec 10, 2008

I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me

Decius posted:

Thing is, I have a similar - or rather the exact opposite - complaint. I originally wanted to play Sara Ryder as Sub-Saharan African woman. But the skin tone scale doesn't really go into really dark skin tones, it ends a bit darker than Liam, which is a bit disappointing.

That may be connected to something Ian Frazier said about some of the faces not having all the skin colors they're supposed to. Part of what they want to put in the next patch.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

Schlesische posted:

It's an EA/Bioware product.
It has a hype train fit to colonise Mars (and probably funded well enough to do so as well).

It deserves the bulk of criticism it's getting.
You're telling me they spent over 4 years on this game but couldn't get human faces to be even in the ballpark of okay. I sort of understand why Ryder is bad because of the face morphs, I can sort of appreciate that Cora and Liam being okay but the rest? Even if they just ran them through a bulk generator, it doesn't take a staggering amount of effort to make them not look like garbage.
What's worse is how amazingly bad the character creator is, and how definitively the lighting set up was not made for the tattoos or makeup available therein (just like DAI and it's nightmare creations).

The characters themselves come across as bland as milk. The Ryder story isn't all that interesting, and it has to contend with gamey-as-gently caress mechanics that are just awful.
The story is a pretty beige canvas, and it'll be down to see if Bioware can still pull off generalised character-group development. Given how in DAI you went from being "The thing that killed the divine" to "our holy saviour" in like 15 seconds and don't lose it for the rest of the game (unless you play the DLC and get the endings from that) that quality is still very much in the air.

Is it going to be as bad as shitposters like Eonwe are making it out to be? No.
Is it going to be a bad game? Probably not, No.
Is it going to be a genre redefining moment of excellence? No.
Is it worth $80? No.

It'll be what it is. A game that's going to be at least somewhat fun, solid and disgustingly engaging for around 20-30 hours (and if you don't finish the main quest after that you probably never will, see Inquisition, Dragon Age), with a multiplayer that should be decent for at least 10 hours unless you find a tight group of game buddies (then that number skyrockets).
EDIT: It's also quite hilarious that EA thought it'd be a great idea to showcase the first 5 hours of a game from a developer who hasn't made a decent first 10 hours to a game in like a decade.

Sir the question was is this your handwriting

Ages
Feb 20, 2005

Its just half the puffin juice and the puffin lives and doesnt mind. I promise!
Fun Shoe

marshmallow creep posted:

Note, when you have a quest to go find people in the desert, don't forget your car, because parts of the quest can be timed. :v:

I could tell that was going to happen the second he said it would faster to the first point on foot rather than go back to get the car. The fact it became timed was just frosting on the cake.

SweetBro
May 12, 2014

Did you read that sister?
Yes, truly a shitposter's post. I read it, Rem.

Schlesische posted:

Is it worth $80? No.

... But you haven't played to full-game yet. :shepface:

AngryBooch
Sep 26, 2009

marshmallow creep posted:

Note, when you have a quest to go find people in the desert, don't forget your car, because parts of the quest can be timed. :v:

This motherfucker playing like a retard.

These checkpoints though...

Number Ten Cocks
Feb 25, 2016

by zen death robot

Decius posted:

Thing is, I have a similar - or rather the exact opposite - complaint. I originally wanted to play Sara Ryder as Sub-Saharan African woman. But the skin tone scale doesn't really go into really dark skin tones, it ends a bit darker than Liam, which is a bit disappointing.

It doesn't do really black or white people? This will complicate the SJW conspiracy theories.

monster on a stick
Apr 29, 2013

marshmallow creep posted:

Note, when you have a quest to go find people in the desert, don't forget your car, because parts of the quest can be timed. :v:

And those save points :allears: though I'm not sure where I would have put one. Probably where you pick up the transmission. Maaaybe near the site.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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sounds like a whole lot of people are self-owning tonight by having fun with the video game

eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

Fojar38 posted:

sounds like a whole lot of people are self-owning tonight by having fun with the video game

i hope they enjoy themselves

Hedrigall
Mar 27, 2008

by vyelkin
Yeah but what's a sync kill

Admiral Ray
May 17, 2014

Proud Musk and Dogecoin fanboy

Hedrigall posted:

Yeah but what's a sync kill

Milkfred E. Moore
Aug 27, 2006

'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'
what the gently caress

Zakmonster
Apr 15, 2010

Decius posted:

Thing is, I have a similar - or rather the exact opposite - complaint. I originally wanted to play Sara Ryder as Sub-Saharan African woman. But the skin tone scale doesn't really go into really dark skin tones, it ends a bit darker than Liam, which is a bit disappointing.

I remember in another thread on Games (I think it was the WoW thread), some people talking about their disappointment in the lack of options for black characters. Basically black characters you can make just look like white people with black face. So as a fellow brown person myself, seeing the options in Andromeda was a pleasant surprise, even though the customisation options were complete poo poo.

Ages
Feb 20, 2005

Its just half the puffin juice and the puffin lives and doesnt mind. I promise!
Fun Shoe

nice

Milky Moor posted:

what the gently caress

just give it a few seconds, and it'll sink in

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Should Scrapper be the only training selection I should care about because of Charge?

E: Can I charge someone and then shotgun them in the face?

Burkion
May 10, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

orange juche posted:

Should Scrapper be the only training selection I should care about because of Charge?

E: Can I charge someone and then shotgun them in the face?

Why the gently caress couldn't you


I will warn- on the first planet you will suck and die if you don't keep to cover and charge sparringly


After you get your real super powers and the Vanguard profile, you will become a God and regain shields by both charging and punching.


So yes be a Scrapper and scrap their poo poo

Random Asshole
Nov 8, 2010

orange juche posted:

Should Scrapper be the only training selection I should care about because of Charge?

E: Can I charge someone and then shotgun them in the face?

Absolutely, in fact that is the entire point. Either that or melee them.

Edit: The only enemy that will REALLY gently caress you up quick-like (in the demo area) is the kett minigunner, so just break his shield and then lift him. THEN charge him.

Random Asshole fucked around with this message at 07:12 on Mar 18, 2017

SweetBro
May 12, 2014

Did you read that sister?
Yes, truly a shitposter's post. I read it, Rem.

Burkion posted:

Why the gently caress couldn't you


I will warn- on the first planet you will suck and die if you don't keep to cover and charge sparringly


After you get your real super powers and the Vanguard profile, you will become a God and regain shields by both charging and punching.


So yes be a Scrapper and scrap their poo poo

To be fair this is only the case if you play on Hard or higher.

Captain Oblivious
Oct 12, 2007

I'm not like other posters

SweetBro posted:

To be fair this is only the case if you play on Hard or higher.

If you aren't playing on Hard or above you are casual filth :colbert:

SweetBro
May 12, 2014

Did you read that sister?
Yes, truly a shitposter's post. I read it, Rem.

Captain Oblivious posted:

If you aren't playing on Hard or above you are casual filth :colbert:

My problem with Bioware games on higher difficulty is that all they are "Increase enemy HP and Damage" which basically turns every fight into poo poo that takes too drat long.

Burkion
May 10, 2012

by Fluffdaddy
I found out that, after you get the Vanguard Profile, you can just out punch the MiniGun Kett fucker.

You regain more shields than he can do damage to with every punch, and you stagger him a bit too. It's hilarious.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
There better be Batarians in the multi eventually.

Sio
Jan 20, 2007

better red than dead

Decius posted:

Thing is, I have a similar - or rather the exact opposite - complaint. I originally wanted to play Sara Ryder as Sub-Saharan African woman. But the skin tone scale doesn't really go into really dark skin tones, it ends a bit darker than Liam, which is a bit disappointing.

This is a general problem rooted in the fact that shading and lighting in games is designed around light-skinned character models. Moderately dark skin looks alright, if not exactly ideal, but really dark skin tones fare really poorly... so it ends up not even being included as an option most of the time.

This isn't unique to the gaming industry, of course -- it's a longstanding issue in photography and film too.

Utnayan
Sep 26, 2002
PROUD MEMBER OF THE RAPIST DEFENSE BRIGADE! DO NOT BE MEAN TO RAPISTS, OR I WILL VOTE FOR THEM WITH EVER INCREASING VIGOR!

Clawtopsy posted:

read the whole post

i bought the witcher 3

What the gently caress does that mean. You are swayed to buy this game, which is pure poo poo, but you bought witcher 3 which was good?

I am completely lost.

Utnayan
Sep 26, 2002
PROUD MEMBER OF THE RAPIST DEFENSE BRIGADE! DO NOT BE MEAN TO RAPISTS, OR I WILL VOTE FOR THEM WITH EVER INCREASING VIGOR!

Captain Oblivious posted:

If you aren't playing on Hard or above you are casual filth :colbert:

If you are playing this game at all after a ten hour trial you are a loving moron

cams
Mar 28, 2003


Schlesische posted:

It's an EA/Bioware product.
It has a hype train fit to colonise Mars (and probably funded well enough to do so as well).

It deserves the bulk of criticism it's getting.
You're telling me they spent over 4 years on this game but couldn't get human faces to be even in the ballpark of okay. I sort of understand why Ryder is bad because of the face morphs, I can sort of appreciate that Cora and Liam being okay but the rest? Even if they just ran them through a bulk generator, it doesn't take a staggering amount of effort to make them not look like garbage.
What's worse is how amazingly bad the character creator is, and how definitively the lighting set up was not made for the tattoos or makeup available therein (just like DAI and it's nightmare creations).

The characters themselves come across as bland as milk. The Ryder story isn't all that interesting, and it has to contend with gamey-as-gently caress mechanics that are just awful.
The story is a pretty beige canvas, and it'll be down to see if Bioware can still pull off generalised character-group development. Given how in DAI you went from being "The thing that killed the divine" to "our holy saviour" in like 15 seconds and don't lose it for the rest of the game (unless you play the DLC and get the endings from that) that quality is still very much in the air.

Is it going to be as bad as shitposters like Eonwe are making it out to be? No.
Is it going to be a bad game? Probably not, No.
Is it going to be a genre redefining moment of excellence? No.
Is it worth $80? No.

It'll be what it is. A game that's going to be at least somewhat fun, solid and disgustingly engaging for around 20-30 hours (and if you don't finish the main quest after that you probably never will, see Inquisition, Dragon Age), with a multiplayer that should be decent for at least 10 hours unless you find a tight group of game buddies (then that number skyrockets).
EDIT: It's also quite hilarious that EA thought it'd be a great idea to showcase the first 5 hours of a game from a developer who hasn't made a decent first 10 hours to a game in like a decade.
source your quotes

Caidin
Oct 29, 2011

Utnayan posted:

If you are playing this game at all after a ten hour trial you are a loving moron

I dunno, I hit the end of the trial and was fairly annoyed by the obstruction, I'll probably pick it up Tuesday.

I should probably see if the prepurchase bennies are any good.

Owl Inspector
Sep 14, 2011

SweetBro posted:

My problem with Bioware games on higher difficulty is that all they are "Increase enemy HP and Damage" which basically turns every fight into poo poo that takes too drat long.

They give every enemy shields/barriers/armor bars in ME2 and I believe ME3, which changes power considerations. Although not for the better, some have argued

Captain Oblivious posted:

Yes there are. There were in ME3 as well.

Do not get close to the thing that looks like it could pick you up and eat you because it can and will do exactly that!!!

Or just don't exist within thirty meters of them unless you're the host.

https://giant.gfycat.com/PaleWhichCarpenterant.webm

Sync kills are a loving game design atrocity and I lost my poo poo when I saw they brought them back.

cams
Mar 28, 2003


Utnayan posted:

If you are playing this game at all after a ten hour trial you are a loving moron
you are a literal crazy person hth

The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:
Sync kills are actually a good design.

buglord
Jul 31, 2010

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!

Buglord

Greetings from the Russia.jpg thread :tipshat:

So it seems like my buddies are still hyped for this game even after the demo. Unless the reviews are outright scathing, I'll probably nab this for the multi.

Utnayan
Sep 26, 2002
PROUD MEMBER OF THE RAPIST DEFENSE BRIGADE! DO NOT BE MEAN TO RAPISTS, OR I WILL VOTE FOR THEM WITH EVER INCREASING VIGOR!

cams posted:

you are a literal crazy person hth

And you are a loving idiot who hasn't contributed to a God drat thing your entire life, and that includes words on the internet while you try to continue to troll, and you are so loving bad at it I want to give you some lessons on the art. We could start by everyone looking at your poo poo post history. At least I am consistent and do have ethics in game design. Go snort some coke and have a heyday on another forum. I've been here since 2002 you little gently caress.

Now, with that said...

I love the loving Goons. GOONS ROCK.

I don't want to see Goons spending their money on poo poo. I didn't want to see them spending money on the Switch, which is poo poo, and I do not want to see them being conned into this loving disaster either.

We have a choice my friends. And this goes to the anti shills. And Christ, even the trolls which I love.

You saw this loving pile of poo poo hook line and sinker this last week. You had a chance to play your 10 hours (I guarantee you someone will quote that and say how much of a great time they had in shitville), and you saw, for real, how poo poo this game is.

I want you to ask yourself this. How long have you been playing games. And I also want to ask you how many times have you wanted to have more games to play like Witcher 3, Zelda BOTW, Horizon, all the way down to Bioshock (Whether you liked it or not at least it was loving cool). Break this God drat cycle of poo poo in a box. DO NOT buy this poo poo. FORCE EA to keep releasing titles like BF1.

Yeah. I know exactly how EA operates. I know EXACTLY how this pile of poo poo was developed. I know exactly how they didn't care and expect you to pay for poo poo in a box when it is now EVIDENT it is poo poo in a box.

Imagine 15 games like Horizon Zero dawn a year compiled with 10 games of BOTW for the year. Or 15 the last of us's for the year.

WE CAN HAVE THAT IF YOU STOP BUYING THIS BULLSHIT.

SO START NOW AND PRAISE JESUS CHRIST.

Troposphere
Jul 11, 2005


psycho killer
qu'est-ce que c'est?

Utnayan posted:

And you are a loving idiot who hasn't contributed to a God drat thing your entire life, and that includes words on the internet while you try to continue to troll, and you are so loving bad at it I want to give you some lessons on the art. We could start by everyone looking at your poo poo post history. At least I am consistent and do have ethics in game design. Go snort some coke and have a heyday on another forum. I've been here since 2002 you little gently caress.

Now, with that said...

I love the loving Goons. GOONS ROCK.

I don't want to see Goons spending their money on poo poo. I didn't want to see them spending money on the Switch, which is poo poo, and I do not want to see them being conned into this loving disaster either.

We have a choice my friends. And this goes to the anti shills. And Christ, even the trolls which I love.

You saw this loving pile of poo poo hook line and sinker this last week. You had a chance to play your 10 hours (I guarantee you someone will quote that and say how much of a great time they had in shitville), and you saw, for real, how poo poo this game is.

I want you to ask yourself this. How long have you been playing games. And I also want to ask you how many times have you wanted to have more games to play like Witcher 3, Zelda BOTW, Horizon, all the way down to Bioshock (Whether you liked it or not at least it was loving cool). Break this God drat cycle of poo poo in a box. DO NOT buy this poo poo. FORCE EA to keep releasing titles like BF1.

Yeah. I know exactly how EA operates. I know EXACTLY how this pile of poo poo was developed. I know exactly how they didn't care and expect you to pay for poo poo in a box when it is now EVIDENT it is poo poo in a box.

Imagine 15 games like Horizon Zero dawn a year compiled with 10 games of BOTW for the year. Or 15 the last of us's for the year.

WE CAN HAVE THAT IF YOU STOP BUYING THIS BULLSHIT.

SO START NOW AND PRAISE JESUS CHRIST.

I'm gonna buy the game

Number Ten Cocks
Feb 25, 2016

by zen death robot

Utnayan posted:

What the gently caress does that mean. You are swayed to buy this game, which is pure poo poo, but you bought witcher 3 which was good?

I am completely lost.

I feel another reading comprehension meltdown coming on.

What if the dialogue is good, goons just can't understand what is actually being said without an English to autism translation?

Utnayan
Sep 26, 2002
PROUD MEMBER OF THE RAPIST DEFENSE BRIGADE! DO NOT BE MEAN TO RAPISTS, OR I WILL VOTE FOR THEM WITH EVER INCREASING VIGOR!

Troposphere posted:

I'm gonna buy the game

No. I will block your loving charge card.

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Troposphere
Jul 11, 2005


psycho killer
qu'est-ce que c'est?

Utnayan posted:

No. I will block your loving charge card.

I'm going to kiss the blue alien and probably also the lady cockroach alien and you cannot stop me

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