Groetgaffel posted:Or, bear with me here, some people don't give a poo poo about how bad the game looks and how bad the story is, and only care about how fun and good it feels to play. Case in point. Imagine honestly claiming that you don't think graphics and story and characters matter in a game where those things are supposed to matter. No, the only thing that matters is shooting mans, which is why the game bragged about a script bigger than ME3 and puts a ton of emphasis on the characters and banter and dialogue and so on... Positives: "being a biotic pinball", shooting guys, it's "fun" Everything else: lol who cares it's not like you can give anything a score XD
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Fun is subjective... like, even Fallout 4 was "fun" if I ignored the awful story, factions and companions, and just ran around exploring the wasteland blasting mutants and robots with my trusty dog and an explosive shotgun. Comparisons to Dragon age inquisition are also throwing me off because I think people mean them as a criticism, but I genuinely liked DA:I and would be fine if this was like that, but in space. Some might even see bad animations and voice acting as a plus since it gives them something to laugh at while waiting for the next aliens to kill.
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Groetgaffel posted:I really enjoyed being a biotic pinball again, like the profile system, and the shooty bits in general and would put it at like a 70-75 %. Honestly though, how long do you think the novelty of that would sustain you to keep playing this game? It's good enough but it's not ground breaking combat that requires any tactical thinking or much skill. Without a fun story and characters to keep you invested are you going to feel the same way about the 30th nearly identical encounter?
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Mar 18, 2017 14:18
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Mar 18, 2017 14:20
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I'm playing a press copy, and I swear to god all the Angaran females have the exact same face. Like, EXACT. Also oh my god the galaxy map zoom in - zoom out bullshit gets super loving annoying. I really hope someone somewhere mods it out.
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Mar 18, 2017 14:20
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Funky See Funky Do posted:Honestly though, how long do you think the novelty of that would sustain you to keep playing this game? It's good enough but it's not ground breaking combat that requires any tactical thinking or much skill. Without a fun story and characters to keep you invested are you going to feel the same way about the 30th nearly identical encounter? Well that depends... how long does it take until you can see the sex scenes?
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Mar 18, 2017 14:22
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exquisite tea posted:Well that depends... how long does it take until you can see the sex scenes? You can start loving your pre-order pet pyjack as soon as you finish the first planet.
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Mar 18, 2017 14:23
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Extra Smooth Balls posted:Also oh my god the galaxy map zoom in - zoom out bullshit gets super loving annoying. I really hope someone somewhere mods it out. Yeah, those unskippable travel scenes whenever you move around a system suck. Those can't be loading screens, right? The game is just switching from one planet model to another. Surely there's a way to cut that poo poo out.
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Mar 18, 2017 14:23
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me to bioware https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhy7dXWjpAA
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Funky See Funky Do posted:You can start loving your pre-order pet pyjack as soon as you finish the first planet. After 600 years we arrived at a whole new galaxy ready to gently caress... but we soon discovered the only ones getting hosed, were us.
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Mar 18, 2017 14:25
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Skippy McPants posted:Yeah, those unskippable travel scenes whenever you move around a system suck. Those can't be loading screens, right? The game is just switching from one planet model to another. Surely there's a way to cut that poo poo out. Some of the things you zoom in on look super jittery and wobbly too. It's just so eeeeeeeh
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I kinda wonder if they will. Normally I'd say there's no way, but they went nuts tripping over themselves to try and repair the ending to ME 3.
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Skippy McPants posted:Yeah, those unskippable travel scenes whenever you move around a system suck. Those can't be loading screens, right? The game is just switching from one planet model to another. Surely there's a way to cut that poo poo out. It's a deliberate design choice and I've seen some of the devs gush about it. It's not a loading screen unless it takes 10 seconds to load a low-res asteroid with 60 iron on it.
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Mar 18, 2017 14:26
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Groetgaffel posted:I'd love to see Obsidian getting a shot at the IP. Honestly I don't think Obsidian has the staff or engine experience to do a Mass Effect game. They make my favorite games by a substantial margin but I still don't think it'd be a good idea.
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Bioware: Our script is bigger than ME3! Our animations are top-notch! 2017-era Bioware Fan: WHO THE gently caress CARES
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exquisite tea posted:After 600 years we arrived at a whole new galaxy ready to gently caress... but we soon discovered the only ones getting hosed, were us. Depending on personal preferences, this could easily be a positive.
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Extra Smooth Balls posted:I'm playing a press copy Post nudes pls
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exquisite tea posted:After 600 years we arrived at a whole new galaxy ready to gently caress... but we soon discovered the only ones getting hosed, were us. Sorry, drat poetry. Fixed.
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Funky See Funky Do posted:It's a deliberate design choice and I've seen some of the devs gush about it. It's not a loading screen unless it takes 10 seconds to load a low-res asteroid with 60 iron on it. It's interesting how badly a simple choice like this can hurt playability. Like, in ME 2/3 it took about the same amount of time to fly your little toy Normandy between planets but because you were in control didn't feel as bad. Getting stuck just watching a canned FTL scene blows.
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Milky Moor posted:Case in point. Imagine honestly claiming that you don't think graphics and story and characters matter in a game where those things are supposed to matter. No, the only thing that matters is shooting mans, which is why the game bragged about a script bigger than ME3 and puts a ton of emphasis on the characters and banter and dialogue and so on... And no, graphics don't matter all that much to me. I still hold that the original Deus Ex is the best game ever made, and that looked like poo poo when it came out 17 years ago. As for the story and party banter and what not, I care about it, I just don't particularly mind bad ones. If I did I wouldn't be playing videogames at all. Funky See Funky Do posted:Honestly though, how long do you think the novelty of that would sustain you to keep playing this game? It's good enough but it's not ground breaking combat that requires any tactical thinking or much skill. Without a fun story and characters to keep you invested are you going to feel the same way about the 30th nearly identical encounter? But you are right about the "fun story and characters" bit. To me though, even a bad or uninspired story can be fun. I mean, I read 40k novels, I clearly have no taste what so ever.  It looks like Ryder is photoshopped in, he looks so much worse than the pilot.
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Milky Moor posted:Case in point. Imagine honestly claiming that you don't think graphics and story and characters matter in a game where those things are supposed to matter. No, the only thing that matters is shooting mans, which is why the game bragged about a script bigger than ME3 and puts a ton of emphasis on the characters and banter and dialogue and so on... I don't think the story and characters win any awards, but I'm still curious about the story, and I'm also interested in learning more about the characters. It's a matter of taste. The game feels fun to play for me, both because of the combat and because I'm engaged in the plot.
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The other thing I'm thinking about with ME:A is replay value. One of the things I liked with the previous ME games was going through as different classes. Profiles make this essentially pointless so the only other reason to replay the game is which of the wooden-dialogued characters you want to bang. And perhaps there will be some kind of moral choice I actually give a gently caress about.
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Skippy McPants posted:They either over scoped or understaffed and had to lean too much on procedural tech. I think it's a pretty safe bet that the scope of the game exceeded their grasp at this point, at least where their art pipeline is concerned. I mean, good on them for dreaming big I guess? But it goes to show what an effective EP Hudson was. That said, if Dragon Age can recover from 2 this isn't going to be enough to stop Mass Effect for another game or so minimum if they just don't improve at all on Frostbite.
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Seems like the streaming embargo has been moved from monday to today, for some reason. Maybe they are finally waking up to the fact that the first few hours of the game isn't presenting it in the best light
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Played up to getting to the Nexus, really fun so far. Some weird clipping issues that you'd think they fix and I don't know how you miss the Nexus tram having a map of the Hyperion instead.
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Enigmatic Cakelord posted:That said, if Dragon Age can recover from 2 this isn't going to be enough to stop Mass Effect for another game or so minimum if they just don't improve at all on Frostbite. Oh gently caress yes. This game could walk into your house, take poo poo on your floor, steal your TV, and kill spouse/anime body pillow on its way out the door and we'll still see ME:A 2 in a few years.
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So after having played for 10 hours I can say, I enjoy the game. The facial animations and hilarious glitches aside, I really enjoy the setting and gameplay and am really interested in where the story goes from the vault the trial stops you at. Some of the characters are pretty boring but you've literally just begun learning about them when the game ends. Peebee is the only out and out "Oh god I can tell she is going to be annoying." The new skill system and how it works is a lot of fun, and I enjoyed the multiplayer with the new movement options too. Not to overhype the game though. It has significant problems. The facial animations and no quicksave are hilariously awful. Hopefully these are something they can fix in a patching process. The only out and out design decision I feel is atrocious is the planet scanning they worked very hard to make worse than ME2's. I'm looking forward to playing Mass Effect: Andromeda again on tuesday. I realize this is a controversial opinion, but I'm sticking to it. 
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The instructions on what you could/couldn't stream were super confusingly worded, they sent out a revised version and moved the embargo forward yesterday. It's still gonna be a pain in the rear end to stream though because there's a huge section you're not allowed to show so you have to play through it and make a save after to skip to.
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By the way, I still hate all of you who can play the game two days before us plebs in Europe 
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Torrannor posted:By the way, I still hate all of you who can play the game two days before us plebs in Europe Don't worry it's actually only a day earlier because of time zones! 
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Torrannor posted:By the way, I still hate all of you who can play the game two days before us plebs in Europe If you use a South Korean vpn you can unlock the game at 3pm gmt on Monday
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Torrannor posted:By the way, I still hate all of you who can play the game two days before us plebs in Europe 
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Count Uvula posted:You took our beautiful crazy boy away Bring back Snakes n Cakes circa DA2's release thread, that gimmick was funnier Skippy McPants posted:Desert maps and tileset should be banned from all games or at least relegated to minor set pieces. Making one the showcase for your new space game was a real bad ideaer. They should have led with the jungle or ocean worlds. This, but also could sci-fi video games lay off the single-biome worlds? At least a little bit? If you're going to play up how huge and expansive and open world your game is, at a minimum you should show off some worlds with variation. They don't even have to be Earth-like, but the "desert world" could have more oasis-like areas at the poles or at the equator for the "ice world". Or even better, show off a tidally-locked planet like the TRAPPIST exoplanets, where the sun-facing side is daytime desert all the time, the other is dark and iced over, and there's a thin band of habitability in the middle. Or worlds where all the water is subsurface, so there's underground rivers and oceans and cavern systems of flora and fauna and underground alien cities. I'm sure there's many other cool ideas in sci-fi for exotic planets capable of supporting life. Why not explore some of that poo poo? I realize the focus of the plot is colonizing, but also meeting new aliens! Maybe one of them evolved on a super weird planet! Or gathering resources -- maybe you have to setup an outpost on weird worlds to get a nice stream of eezo or whatever the gently caress in order to really get the Nexus running at full speed! And you don't even have to worry about the scientific plausibility of this too much. Your series already has space magic because Element Zero! At that point, it's fine if you stretch or ignore the science to show off some actually alien and varied worlds rather than giving us another "jungle planet"! Captain Oblivious posted:Honestly I don't think Obsidian has the staff or engine experience to do a Mass Effect game. Maybe not, and I wouldn't really want them to go back to just doing sequels with other people's IP. (Unless it's another Fallout.) But I am sad that they seem to be riding the throwback Infinity Engine thing hard now. I liked Pillars fine, and need to give Tyranny a try, but I just don't have the attachment to that era/style of RPG. I was a console kid, and I think KotOR was the first RPG I played. Gimme more 3D RPGs, Obsidian!
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Funky See Funky Do posted:Honestly though, how long do you think the novelty of that would sustain you to keep playing this game? It's good enough but it's not ground breaking combat that requires any tactical thinking or much skill. Without a fun story and characters to keep you invested are you going to feel the same way about the 30th nearly identical encounter? Doom is one of my favorite games ever, and that was wall to wall nearly identical encounters. For real, after mass effect 3, you should not go into a mass effect game expecting a Good RPG. You should go into it expecting a Good Third Person Shooter. And from what I can tell, it is.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1G5p35RopZw Oh god what the gently caress
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Mymla posted:Doom is one of my favorite games ever, and that was wall to wall nearly identical encounters. I enjoyed ME3 way more when I went back and replayed and ignored the story. Combat in that game was real good. Andromeda seems OK so far.
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Mymla posted:For real, after mass effect 3, you should not go into a mass effect game expecting a Good RPG. You should go into it expecting a Good Third Person Shooter. And from what I can tell, it is. That was good right up to the ending though. Thuchanka in particular was easily one of the series highlights.
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Count Uvula posted:You took our beautiful crazy boy away free Utaynan
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I know some people enjoy the mad Utaynan posting but I do not like that kind of level of personal attack in the forums. Sadly he will not be joining us for the launch of this game.
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VideoGames posted:I know some people enjoy the mad Utaynan posting but I do not like that kind of level of personal attack in the forums. Sadly he will not be joining us for the launch of this game. obligatory how much did EA pay you (that's probably what he's yelling at his screen right now)
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