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Roasted Donut posted:No poo poo???? wow someone up above was saying it was because coaches didnt understand how to use him or something.
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# ? Jun 10, 2024 10:38 |
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I seen the football life, fool
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Blitz7x posted:I feel like years of playing dynasty warriors and watching the NFL have collided Gan Ning fuckin owns and I am OK with this comparison.
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WHOOPS posted:- If you believe Rhett Ellison's dad, the Vikings have a toxic leadership who made players to practice too hard during the season. Okay, cool, thanks for the response.
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# ? Mar 18, 2017 04:08 |
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JPP is real lucky, not many guys get a contract for more years than they can count on one hand.
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Blitz7x posted:I feel like years of playing dynasty warriors and watching the NFL have collided I can only think of one coach who banged a kid and that's Sandusky.
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Marshawn is due 9 million dollars if he comes back next season. With the Eddie Lacy signing, if he announces his return, the Seahawks are going to be in a hell of a bind. They may not have a choice but to release him. And that might be why we're just now hearing rumors about Lynch wanting to come back.
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Volkerball posted:Marshawn is due 9 million dollars if he comes back next season. With the Eddie Lacy signing, if he announces his return, the Seahawks are going to be in a hell of a bind. They may not have a choice but to release him. And that might be why we're just now hearing rumors about Lynch wanting to come back. They can't release him, it's a huge cap hit.
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warcrimes posted:They can't release him, it's a huge cap hit. 5 million. So they'd save 4 million.
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Where's the $5 million come from? Didn't the Seahawks already eat his prorated salary cap number last year when he was retired?
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Volkerball posted:Marshawn is due 9 million dollars if he comes back next season. With the Eddie Lacy signing, if he announces his return, the Seahawks are going to be in a hell of a bind. They may not have a choice but to release him. And that might be why we're just now hearing rumors about Lynch wanting to come back. Trade him to Oakland for a piece of paper that says "Brock osweiler lmao"
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# ? Mar 18, 2017 05:46 |
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WHOOPS posted:Where's the $5 million come from? Didn't the Seahawks already eat his prorated salary cap number last year when he was retired? He had 12 million guaranteed in his extension prior to the 2015 season. In 2015, the Seahawks put 7 million of that into the signing bonus. According to this, he was due a $5 million signing bonus in 2016, which would carry over into 2017 if he came back. That would count as dead money were he to be released. http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/seattle-seahawks/marshawn-lynch-1166/
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I don't think that's fully accurate: http://www.fieldgulls.com/2015/3/6/8163927/marshawn-lynch-seahawks-contract-extension-nfl between that and the ESPN story, it seems like all that's on the books is his $9m base salary and that isn't guaranteed. It doesn't seem like there's any cap hit to cutting Lynch.
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# ? Mar 18, 2017 05:59 |
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https://twitter.com/adamschefter/status/842933177530404864 where are the guys who kept defending that pick
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Ehud posted:https://twitter.com/adamschefter/status/842933177530404864 I thought it was a punchline instantly? If not then
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sean10mm posted:I thought it was a punchline instantly? Some people were like, "if you could guarantee a kicker who basically never misses inside 40 yards with a 2nd round pick wouldn't you do it?"
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So the seahawks be screwed if he shows up for camp, lol I bet this Raider thing is all a scam. Oaktown always helps its own, scam tech billionaires.
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Ehud posted:Some people were like, "if you could guarantee a kicker who basically never misses inside 40 yards with a 2nd round pick wouldn't you do it?" That was just wandler20 who's a big dumb FSU homer.
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Ehud posted:https://twitter.com/adamschefter/status/842933177530404864 I'll start laughing again when they actually release Aguayo.
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WHOOPS posted:I don't think that's fully accurate: This article clearly states what happened. When he retired, the $5 mill signing bonus accelerated and affected last year's camp numbers. Because he retired, the Seahawks had the option of recouping that money. It all depends on whether or not they choose to take that money back. If they did recoup the money, it is now owed him. If they did not, there will be no cap penalty in releasing him because you can't have a cap hit twice for the same bonus.
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Epi Lepi posted:That was just wandler20 who's a big dumb FSU homer. It was a few people. Another good rear end line was, “Oh, so you wouldn't give up a second even if he turned out to be Sebastian Janikowski??”
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They gave up more than a second round pick, too. They traded up to that pick. gave away a third and fourth to move to the second, so he cost two picks. I feel like that should be me tioned every time. He's not "second round pick kicker" he's "traded up to the second round pick kicker" Leperflesh fucked around with this message at 16:36 on Mar 18, 2017 |
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http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2017/03/16/washington-redskins-nfl-dysfunction-scot-mccloughan-dan-snyder-bruce-allenquote:Scot McCloughan won one battle in Washington in August 2015. If he’d won two, maybe—maybe—the Redskins wouldn’t be in the mess they’re wading through now. Essentially McCloughan wasn't a loving hidebound idiot and that pissed off Allen who wanted things to be done traditionalistically, then it got even worse because McCloughan was succeeding. The Redskins fired a successful GM because he tried to get everyone involved instead of meekly submitting to the Established Hierarchy.
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Benoit goes into RG3 and Kap and their playing style and concludes that they're not going to be signed by any team because they suck at pocket passing which fucks up the rest of the offense.quote:As we’ve covered, Kaepernick and Griffin don’t have sufficient pocket poise to give themselves a chance to survey. Even if they did, there’s no evidence they would. As throwers, both struggle with timing and anticipation. And, based on how they look on film, both seem to have a disconnect with why a play is called. Too often you see basic designs with basic route combinations going unrecognized.
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Sataere posted:This article clearly states what happened. When he retired, the $5 mill signing bonus accelerated and affected last year's camp numbers. I guess we'll see then. Either way, I think you can safely call their bluff and they'll be forced to release him. fsif posted:It was a few people. lmao
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Ehud posted:Some people were like, "if you could guarantee a kicker who basically never misses inside 40 yards with a 2nd round pick wouldn't you do it?" To be fair we never got that scenario to play out so maybe they are right.
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gently caress Bruce Allen.
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CharlestheHammer posted:To be fair we never got that scenario to play out so maybe they are right. Seabass is one of the most successful Raiders first round picks ever. I can't blame the bucs for trying to get one of their own, but loving if you watched his senior season at FSU and thought Aguyo was the guy.
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Mr. Nice! posted:Seabass is one of the most successful Raiders first round picks ever. I can't blame the bucs for trying to get one of their own, but loving if you watched his senior season at FSU and thought Aguyo was the guy.
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Mr. Nice! posted:Seabass is one of the most successful Raiders first round picks ever. I can't blame the bucs for trying to get one of their own, but loving if you watched his senior season at FSU and thought Aguyo was the guy. Just for fun let's compare to PFR's career approximate value. Which is absolutely not beyond reproach but gently caress it, Northwestern sucks and I have nothing to do for a half of basketball. So all first round draft picks that are better or close to Seabass (according to that): Significantly Better players: Nnamdi Asomugha Charles Woodson Darrell Russell Rob Fredrickson Chester McGlockton Tim Brown Sean Jones Don Mosebar Marcus Allen Henry Lawrence Jack Tatum Raymond Chester Gene Upshaw Harry Schuh Roman Gabriel Players who will almost surely be better by that measure in a couple of years: Amari Cooper Khalil Mack Comparable players (within 2 of Seabass's 40 CarAV) Darren McFadden Robert Gallery Napoleon Kaufman Art Thoms Joe Rutgens PFR does value Janikowski much more than Ray Guy though.
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Bengals signing Kevin Minter.
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# ? Mar 18, 2017 23:29 |
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poo poo
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Seabass is a fine pick... In retrospect. The problem is that the only way a kicker is worth that is if he stays for at least a decade. If you knew you were locking down a guy who was actually good that's fine, however a kicker that busts can't provide depth like a first round linebacker or something can
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Raku posted:Seabass is a fine pick... In retrospect. The problem is that the only way a kicker is worth that is if he stays for at least a decade. If you knew you were locking down a guy who was actually good that's fine, however a kicker that busts can't provide depth like a first round linebacker or something can Get your goddamn logic out of here, this is a hot take zone
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# ? Mar 18, 2017 23:42 |
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A fringe top 10 kicker for a decade isn't very valuable actually. We probably would've stumbled upon someone better over the last decade if kicker had been a need.
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# ? Mar 19, 2017 00:28 |
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The most important thing is there is absolutely zero chance that any other team was going to take Aguayo before the Buc's third round pick and probably like a 98% chance he'd still be there for their fourth. You don't just evaluate whether a guy was "worth" his pick, you look at whether you could have gotten him later. And in a scenario where he's gone before your third round pick, you loving shrug and go "whatever" because you can get a kicker off of free agency who is at least 90% as good as any other kicker in the league. The gap between a very very good kicker and a middle of the pack kicker is tiny. What you do not do is blow an early pick on a player who will definitely still be there for a later pick.
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Raku posted:Seabass is a fine pick... In retrospect. The problem is that the only way a kicker is worth that is if he stays for at least a decade. If you knew you were locking down a guy who was actually good that's fine, however a kicker that busts can't provide depth like a first round linebacker or something can Volkerball posted:A fringe top 10 kicker for a decade isn't very valuable actually. We probably would've stumbled upon someone better over the last decade if kicker had been a need.
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SKULL.GIF posted:Benoit goes into RG3 and Kap and their playing style and concludes that they're not going to be signed by any team because they suck at pocket passing which fucks up the rest of the offense. This isn't the lovely sportswriter thread though
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# ? Mar 19, 2017 01:36 |
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As an Alabama fan I strongely urge you all to resist accepting a "average to pretty good" kicker
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Raku posted:As an Alabama fan I strongely urge you all to resist accepting a "average to pretty good" kicker If you try to kick a 74 yard field goal and don't even consider that hey, maybe this might not make the distance and they'll try to return it, it's not the kickers fault.
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