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McNally
Sep 13, 2007

Ask me about Proposition 305


Do you like muskets?

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Soulex
Apr 1, 2009


Cacati in mano e pigliati a schiaffi!

The beard thing seriously sucked. I love my beard and have to get oil or balm now so I don't look homeless and crazy (I still do)

bulletsponge13
Apr 28, 2010

This stems from a conversation in class. A dude in my class has plates that have his Bronze Star w/V on them. Is this super tool like, or just fine and a way to get out of tickets? Most of the civilians think it's awesome, most the vets think it's tool like, and the dude who did it says he did it to impress chicks (Ha!) and get out of tickets.

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT

bulletsponge13 posted:

This stems from a conversation in class. A dude in my class has plates that have his Bronze Star w/V on them. Is this super tool like, or just fine and a way to get out of tickets? Most of the civilians think it's awesome, most the vets think it's tool like, and the dude who did it says he did it to impress chicks (Ha!) and get out of tickets.

B with v seems like where it's cool. Like I feel like the v qualifies it for being something actually dangerous. I get am totally fine with dudes who did something ballsy enough to get that award through the militarys bullshit process, they can roll through a couple stop signs.

McNally
Sep 13, 2007

Ask me about Proposition 305


Do you like muskets?

bulletsponge13 posted:

the dude who did it says he did it to impress chicks (Ha!) and get out of tickets.

I'll allow this as an excuse for all kinds of poo poo, tbh

CHICKEN SHOES
Oct 4, 2002
Slippery Tilde
Not driving like an idiot rear end in a top hat is actually the best way to get out of tickets~!

UP THE BUM NO BABY
Sep 1, 2011

by Hand Knit

McNally posted:

I'll allow this as an excuse for all kinds of poo poo, tbh

:same:

bulletsponge13
Apr 28, 2010

Hillary Clintons Thong posted:

Not driving like an idiot rear end in a top hat is actually the best way to get out of tickets~!

He has CO plates. Anytime he is driving in another state, he gets pulled over the K9 does a walk around. I guess everyone from CO is running drugs for the pot shop cartels.

CHICKEN SHOES
Oct 4, 2002
Slippery Tilde
oh for sure man

bulletsponge13
Apr 28, 2010

You don't have to believe me, but I have been pulled over he the officer call in K9 when I was just over the NM border. I asked why, and the cop said a lot of CO people bring it down. This dude drives to see friends in KS most weekends, so it isn't it if the realm of reality.

A Bad Poster
Sep 25, 2006
Seriously, shut the fuck up.

:dukedog:
Saw a Mercedes SUV with big decals on the back window of a CIB, HALO badge, Bronze Star, and SF crest. They took up about 40% of the window. Quiet Professional my rear end.

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

A Bad Poster posted:

Saw a Mercedes SUV with big decals on the back window of a CIB, HALO badge, Bronze Star, and SF crest.

Muh valer!

Kung Fu Fist Fuck
Aug 9, 2009

A Bad Poster posted:

Saw a Mercedes SUV with big decals on the back window of a CIB, HALO badge, Bronze Star, and SF crest. They took up about 40% of the window. Quiet Professional my rear end.

was probably some admin bitch back in the 80s. not like you need anything other than cash to get car decals

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Yeah I don't know too many veterans of Falluja loading their cars up with stickers talking about their trinkets.

CHICKEN SHOES
Oct 4, 2002
Slippery Tilde
if you look at your participation in iraq and decide you need a sticker for WHATEVER reasons its lame as gently caress and you're a glory seeking whore begging for attention, I dont care what the reasons are

Zeris
Apr 15, 2003

Quality posting direct from my brain to your face holes.
lol

http://www.ncoguide.com/milper/c-and-r-device-military-awards.html

full text (PDF): http://www.ncoguide.com/files/c-and-r-device.pdf

quote:

DOD Guidance for the Newly Established “C” and “R” Devices

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Implementation of Department of Defense Guidance for the Newly Established “C” and “R” Devices

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Milper Message Number 17-095, Issued 15 March 2017
1. This message will expire on 15 March 2018.

2. References A through C were published on 21 December 2016 and implemented
the recommendations from the comprehensive Military Decorations and Awards
Review (MDAR) approved by the Secretary of Defense in Reference D.

This message announces the implementation guidance pertaining to the newly
established “C” and “R” devices found in applicable portions of References A, B,
and C that have an immediate and significant impact on the Army Awards Program.
The guidance below and other changes approved in reference D are being
incorporated into the next version of reference E.

3. The MDAR determined Soldiers should receive appropriate, distinct recognition
for qualifying meritorious service or achievement performed under combat
conditions or remotely impacting combat operations. The “C” and “R” devices
were created to recognize such service. The criteria and implementation guidance
for these devices are listed below.

4. The “C” device:
a. The “C” device is an appurtenance which may be placed on designated individual
awards to denote recognition of meritorious service or achievement under combat
conditions. The “C” device is only authorized if the service or achievement was
performed under combat conditions (while the Soldier was personally exposed to
hostile action or in an area where other Soldiers were actively engaged),
while:

(1) Engaged in action against an enemy of the United States;

(2) Engaged in military operations involving conflict with an opposing foreign force

(3) Serving with friendly foreign forces engaged in an armed conflict against an
opposing armed force in which the United States is not a belligerent party.

b. Award of the “C” device is based on the specific circumstances under which the
service or achievement was performed.

The award is not determined solely on geographic location or unit of assignment,
and the award may recognize specific achievements and/or extended periods of
service, under the following circumstances:

(1) The unit is operating in a location with delegated wartime awards authority.

(2) The Soldier was personally exposed to hostile action or in an area where other
Soldiers were actively engaged. This is not to say the Soldier must qualify for a
combat badge as defined in reference E. The commander with awards approval
authority must consider the totality of the situation and determine if the Soldier
performed the service or action(s) under combat conditions, or if it was rendered
under relatively safe, non-hostile conditions.

(3) The fact alone that the service was performed in a designated combat zone
(CZ) or similarly defined location (areas designated for combat zone tax exclusion
(CZTE), imminent danger pay (IDP), hazardous duty pay (HDP), or hostile fire pay
(HFP)) does not justify award of the “C” device. Because these locations are
typically very large and defined by known geographic features and boundaries, not
all Soldiers in that designated area operate under combat conditions. Moreover,
not all Soldiers in a CZ or similar area serve in roles or perform functions under
combat conditions. For example, Soldiers serving in staging areas, some higher
headquarters locations, or locations outside the joint operational area may not
necessarily be at risk of experiencing hostile action. Such determinations should
be made on a case-by-case basis by the awards approval authority.

c. Grade must not be a factor in determining whether the “C” device is warranted,
nor will any quotas, official or unofficial, be established limiting the number of “C”
devices authorized for a given combat engagement, a given operation, or
cumulatively within a given expanse of area or time.

d. The “C” device may be awarded with the following Army awards to recognize
exceptionally meritorious service or achievement performed under combat
conditions on or after 7 January 2016:

(1) Distinguished Service Medal (DSM)

(2) Legion of Merit (LOM)

(3) Distinguished Flying Cross (DFC)

(4) Air Medal (AM)

(5) Army Commendation Medal (ARCOM)

(6) Army Achievement Medal (AAM)

blah blah blah

Basically most awards can now get a V for valor, C for combat, and/or R for REMF

There are going to be some loving stupid looking ARCOMs and AAMs out there.

UP THE BUM NO BABY
Sep 1, 2011

by Hand Knit

Zeris posted:

lol

http://www.ncoguide.com/milper/c-and-r-device-military-awards.html

full text (PDF): http://www.ncoguide.com/files/c-and-r-device.pdf


Basically most awards can now get a V for valor, C for combat, and/or R for REMF

There are going to be some loving stupid looking ARCOMs and AAMs out there.

Hahahaha there are about to be a whole lot of pissy command teams

boop the snoot
Jun 3, 2016
Is my CIB getting upgraded to a CIB-C?

No? Then idgaf.

Knives Amilli
Sep 26, 2014

A Bad Poster posted:

Saw a Mercedes SUV with big decals on the back window of a CIB, HALO badge, Bronze Star, and SF crest. They took up about 40% of the window. Quiet Professional my rear end.

Me and my my old roommate used to joke about how the mil makes a big deal out of OPSEC in regards to your military affiliation...

But in the Knox area you see guys SERGEANT MAJOR/AIRBORNE plastered across their Escalades rear windshield

A Bad Poster
Sep 25, 2006
Seriously, shut the fuck up.

:dukedog:
Looking forward to seeing the stories about how the Staff Sergeant got a Bronze Star, but the Specialist got an AAM with a C for the same thing, and the argument that will ensue. Also waiting for the first person to have an award with "VCR" on it having to explain that to someone.

Edit: ^ Yeah, putting your rank on your car has always seemed like the dumbest thing to me.

A Bad Poster fucked around with this message at 05:31 on Mar 18, 2017

Flying_Crab
Apr 12, 2002



People whose entire identity is associated with their military career. Their identity is the Army.

Zeris
Apr 15, 2003

Quality posting direct from my brain to your face holes.
For some, better than no identity

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT

Pesticide20 posted:

Hahahaha there are about to be a whole lot of pissy command teams

Oh my God. perfect.

Woof Blitzer
Dec 29, 2012

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DoktorLoken posted:

People whose entire identity is associated with their military career. Their identity is the Army.

Is stolen valor identity theft?

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

A Bad Poster posted:

Looking forward to seeing the stories about how the Staff Sergeant got a Bronze Star, but the Specialist got an AAM with a C for the same thing, and the argument that will ensue. Also waiting for the first person to have an award with "VCR" on it having to explain that to someone.

Edit: ^ Yeah, putting your rank on your car has always seemed like the dumbest thing to me.

That just comes down to whoever did the write up of the award (or the unit). I got an award for a thing (with no V), but dudes from a different unit at the same thing got a V. :shrug:

At the time nobody really knew anything about how to write up a V and we'd had bad experiences with them getting constantly getting kicked back, so it was easier to just put in a normal 638 with nothing additional.

Genocide Tendency
Dec 24, 2009

I get mental health care from the medical equivalent of Skillcraft.


Hillary Clintons Thong posted:

if you look at your participation in iraq and decide you need a sticker for WHATEVER reasons its lame as gently caress and you're a glory seeking whore begging for attention, I dont care what the reasons are

Bunch of people I know do this for the same reason I have a Veteran plate.

Gets you out of tickets.

That loving plate has bailed me out 4-5 times in the last year or so.

Justin Tyme
Feb 22, 2011


Yeah mil poo poo has got me out of a ticket as well. Some of you guys are way too melodramatic, the military was loving gay and sucked rear end but I am still proud of what I did and it's okay to be proud and still know just how lovely it is. Plus civilians are stupid and don't know either way anyway.

CHICKEN SHOES
Oct 4, 2002
Slippery Tilde
shockingly i was really wasted last night, everyone can do whatever they want I shouldn't judge and I'm working on that :kiddo:

Soulex
Apr 1, 2009


Cacati in mano e pigliati a schiaffi!

Justin Tyme posted:

Yeah mil poo poo has got me out of a ticket as well. Some of you guys are way too melodramatic, the military was loving gay and sucked rear end but I am still proud of what I did and it's okay to be proud and still know just how lovely it is. Plus civilians are stupid and don't know either way anyway.

This is why I self disclose pretty easily about being a veteran. I am immeasurably looked at differently. Especially when I mention disabled. Only when I need to use it to my advantage like that. Otherwise mum is the word.

Flying_Crab
Apr 12, 2002



I should really get around to getting vet plates/driver's license.

zharmad
Feb 9, 2010

I don't know about how other states handle it, but disabled veteran plates in TX mean no registration cost and no tolls on most tollways. You also get free registration if you want the medal plates for MSM and higher.

boop the snoot
Jun 3, 2016
A IS FOR ARMY

Kung Fu Fist Fuck
Aug 9, 2009
my plates cost me double normal but theyve saved me from several tickets, and less people gently caress with me on the road so theyre worth the extra

Zeris
Apr 15, 2003

Quality posting direct from my brain to your face holes.

Hillary Clintons Thong posted:

shockingly i was really wasted last night, everyone can do whatever they want I shouldn't judge and I'm working on that :kiddo:

HCT your job is not to re-calibrate yourself for us, it's everyone's job to calibrate to the man who is right when he's wrong and wrong when he's right. poo poo's relative and the only real wrong is to only see it one way at all times.

CHICKEN SHOES
Oct 4, 2002
Slippery Tilde

Zeris posted:

HCT your job is not to re-calibrate yourself for us, it's everyone's job to calibrate to the man who is right when he's wrong and wrong when he's right. poo poo's relative and the only real wrong is to only see it one way at all times.

i'm so wasted again I don't know what you're saying but I havent read the news today so I'm much less inclined to be angry and gip dude y'all own I have no friends IRL and I'm not even friends with anyone here but thanks for the small amount of social contact y'all provide me

bulletsponge13
Apr 28, 2010

HCT, you might be a dick bag, but at least you're not Cole.



I kid. I love all you fuckers, and I rarely see a reason to take it personal when you guys are dicks.

Nice and hot piss
Feb 1, 2004

Kung Fu Fist gently caress posted:

my plates cost me double normal but theyve saved me from several tickets, and less people gently caress with me on the road so theyre worth the extra

just got my veteran plates i ain't never scared.

Zeris
Apr 15, 2003

Quality posting direct from my brain to your face holes.

Hillary Clintons Thong posted:

i'm so wasted again I don't know what you're saying but I havent read the news today so I'm much less inclined to be angry and gip dude y'all own I have no friends IRL and I'm not even friends with anyone here but thanks for the small amount of social contact y'all provide me

Same or at least the first two parts are same

Mustang
Jun 18, 2006

“We don’t really know where this goes — and I’m not sure we really care.”
God drat Yakima Training Center

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Mike-o
Dec 25, 2004

Now I'm in your room
And I'm in your bed


Grimey Drawer

Mustang posted:

God drat Yakima Training Center

:lol:

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