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Captain Monkey posted:edit: Not starting a new page reassuring a crazy person that a Facebook employee isn't stalking them to remove/add the word not to their posts to defend and hide the illuminati's child molesting agenda. So nvm. No, I don't think that's the case at all. There's no global illuminati pedo conspiracy, no poo poo. But I honestly have no clue what happened there and it was undoubtedly strange to have a post I made get edited to completely change its meaning. Anyway in hindsight it's obviously not very relevant to the thread. Feel free to ignore that one. Here's something that is somewhat unnerving but mostly just depressing. In the years after the Civil War, many former slaves desperately searched for loved ones that they had lost contact with. Reading some of their "Information Wanted" newspaper ads is heartbreaking:   quote:Christian Recorder, April 7, 1866  This website archives hundreds of these ads taken from newspapers in Philadelphia, New Orleans, Nashville, Charelston, Galveston, and Cincinnati. bowser has a new favorite as of 04:48 on Mar 18, 2017 |
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Avshalom posted:this has probably been posted before but this is such a long thread and it's definitely been a while. the search for the famous september 11 falling man, the wtc employee in upside-down freefall who was for a long time completely anonymous even though he was one of the most enduring images of the attack There's a pretty good documentary about it, where the family pretty much identifies him by the clothing he was wearing. His name is Jonathan Briley, and he was an audio technician at Windows on the World. It's even said in the article that you mentioned that it's widely believed that that is who this man was. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHqKEF34rpU Edit: adding this as an addendum because I hate double posting. St. Roch is a 14th-century French pilgrim who is said to have tended to and healed victims of the plague. Historically it has been believed that depictions of him with a bubo on his upper thigh represented the fact that he supposedly became ill himself with the plague while tending patients... However there is now a somewhat new - and personally in my opinion much more accurate - theory on his mystery leg wound, which has been pieced together from this painting that was done of the saint in the 14th century.  You see, for many years people believes that... Thing... Was just an artistic representation of pus or mucous. But now there are new studies that suggest that St. Roch was infected with the Guinea Worn. Guinea worm is a parasite that has existed for at least 3000 years, but almost certainly has been around longer than that - there have been remains of worms found in Egyptian mummies, and they are mentioned in the Ebers Papyrus, dating from 1550 B.C.. If you take it for truth, it's suggested that guinea worm was the "firey serpent" that inflicted the Jewish people as they wandered in the wilderness in the Bible. Guinea worm doesn't actually enter the body as a worm it's life cycle "starts" as a larva that floats in stagnant or still water, waiting to be injested. When a human drinks them in, they quickly mature in the stomach and bowels and then "burrow" through the body - often into lower extremities. The site where the worm lays up becomes fevered, burning and painful. The natural human inclination is to soak a pained foot in the water, and that's what the guinea worm depends on. When it senses being nearby or in the water, it painfully bursts through the skin and releases thousands of larvae to repeat the cycle. It sounds just loving awful doesn't it? In 1986 there were 3.5 MILLION cases of guinea worm worldwide annually. Thankfully, technology and the ability to help from those with the means turned toward this issue... And Jimmy Carter founded an institute with the goal of eradicating guinea worm from existence. In 2006 there were approximately 11,000 cases across six countries in Africa. In the entire year of 2016 there were a total of 25 infections worldwide. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4kQWvUv_Ns This is an awful, painful, and frankly quite terrifying parasite / disease that used to incapacitate and kill people, and we are on the verge of literally wiping it off the map. Guinea worm is expected to be the second such disease to be completely eradicated, behind smallpox. More info: https://www.cartercenter.org/health/guinea_worm/index.html That Damn Satyr has a new favorite as of 07:14 on Mar 18, 2017 |
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cult member at airport posted:No, I don't think that's the case at all. There's no global illuminati pedo conspiracy, no poo poo. But I honestly have no clue what happened there and it was undoubtedly strange to have a post I made get edited to completely change its meaning. Anyway in hindsight it's obviously not very relevant to the thread. Feel free to ignore that one. May not get much traction in this thread but you should totally post it in the computer forum and see if anyone there can shed some light.
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cult member at airport posted:Not really sure if this fits this thread or where else it would be better to post, but it certainly unnerved me today. I agree it's possible that there's some kind of automated feature that flags and maybe alters the text of possible child porn or murder links. I know facebook has had a problem keeping employees to manually review sex and violence stuff that violates their tos, in that it's soul-destroying work to sit in a cube farm and have to look at child porn and murders for $15 an hour. They also experiment a lot with features and interfaces and don't let anyone know.
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Found a good long-form on The Atlantic: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2013/09/advertisement-for-murder/309435/ A middle-aged working-class loner gets tapped for a cushy job keeping an eye on a rural property in Ohio for free rent and $300/mo, a good place just to get stable for a while. When he shows up, the "owner" tells his son to "stop the truck over by where we shot that deer last time" then pulls a gun and tries to kill the applicant. Gun jams, applicant goes running and gets winged by the next shot, runs cross-country to a farmhouse to call 911. Cops are skeptical of his story at first, until he pulls up the Craigslist ad he responded to, and then the police start to realize "that deer last time" is pointing to a larger trend... Really good piece about an unnerving conspiracy to target blue-collar single men that nobody would miss, just in hopes of getting a few thousand apiece by selling their car and few possessions. TapTheForwardAssist has a new favorite as of 01:30 on Mar 19, 2017 |
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TapTheForwardAssist posted:Found a good long-form on The Atlantic: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2013/09/advertisement-for-murder/309435/ God these always hurt to read; these guys aren't all together, but they'd tried, and were rewarded with a shallow grave. I always find myself trying to remember that there's no just world, but I wish it were.
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TapTheForwardAssist posted:Found a good long-form on The Atlantic: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2013/09/advertisement-for-murder/309435/ Thanks for the article. Long form articles are great for true crime stuff.
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Wasabi the J posted:God these always hurt to read; these guys aren't all together, but they'd tried, and were rewarded with a shallow grave. 
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Avshalom posted:yeah. all the victims in this article in particular sound like absolute sweethearts Can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not, but it was a sad group of guys left behind by the American Dream, without the skills to get competitive work, and many of them clung to family relationships as one of the few things still holding them together. Though it is kinda heartening that the killers went out of their way to find people they assumed nobody would care about, accidentally getting guys who were in tight communications with friends and family and immediately missed. I forget which WP article it was, but there was one of the serial killer bios where once they got the guy to confess to a dozen or so murders they knew of, he described in detail a particular woman he killed, and how surprised he was that the media and police never mentioned her once. He figured that just nobody cared about her and so nobody noticed she was gone. EDIT: the article does a great job towards the end at pointing out how pointless their MO had become. The last guy they wanted to kill had given his laptop, flatscreen TV, and other stuff they hoped to sell away to family before he left, and his car was poo poo and not worth stealing, so they ended up killing him for a few changes of clothes and box of cassette tapes and a couple bucks loose cash he had on him.
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no i was being legit, they sound like genuinely lovely guys who'd just had a rough trot. the one guy carrying around an urn with his old cat's ashes in it made me extremely sad, and the man who'd message his sons to tell them he loved them every single day.
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Mar 19, 2017 04:17
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Loucks posted:Then watch the footage.
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Celery Face posted:You can hear a man calling out for someone named Bridget until he finally says "Bridget just burned to death! The whole loving place is on fire." I just found out that Bridget was his niece and she and her friend were in the bathroom when the fire broke out. They stayed in to call 911, obviously not realizing how bad things were, got trapped and died in there. jesus christ i gotta stop reading this thread, you guys keep pointing out hidden details of that video like its the 3rd season of lost fuuuuck I'm glad I didn't notice the extra stuff I should keep it that way.
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re: The Station, from wikipedia:quote:Because it was a high-casualty fire caused by illegal indoor usage of outdoor fireworks, the 2003 disaster is similar to the 2004 República Cromañón nightclub fire in Buenos Aires, Argentina; the 2008 Wuwang Club fire in Shenzhen, China; the 2009 Santika Club fire in Watthana, Bangkok, Thailand (cause is disputed); the 2009 Lame Horse fire in Perm, Russia; the 2013 Kiss nightclub fire in Santa Maria, Brazil,[3] and the 2015 Colectiv nightclub fire in Bucharest, Romania.[4] Jesus loving christ, stop lighting fireworks indoors.
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Celery Face posted:Panciera had a clear sight-line to the stage from his perch at the bar, and he didn’t like what he saw. The moment flames began climbing the walls behind Great White, he “knew that people were going to die — the place was just that crowded.” Panciera initially ducked behind the bar’s curve about ten feet from the exit door and waited for his buddy, who had gone to the men’s room. Before long, however, black smoke tumbled toward him across the ceiling. It fast became too thick to see anyone, but he “distinctly recalls hearing the bar cash register open.” Someone scooped the till. So someone crawled behind bar and opened the cash register by feel in pitch black smoke? That pretty much limits it to current for former employees. It was that bouncer.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmPOIriMiyU this video effectively shows how the exits became congested choke points in a matter of seconds.there's something terribly depressing about seeing all those simulated people fall to their knees, crawl around, and turn into an 'x' to denote their death. the unnerving thing is how quickly it all happened. if you watch the video footage, there's maybe 2 minutes from when the band takes the stage to "if you're still inside, you are guaranteed dead now." If you just happened to be in the bathroom at the time that the fire started, no amount of quick thinking or situational awareness "I always look for the closest exits when I go to concerts!" could have saved you. you'd zip up your fly, open the door to the dance floor and just walk into a horrible inferno of wailing immolated people, where momento before everyone was fine.
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Wasabi the J posted:God these always hurt to read; these guys aren't all together, but they'd tried, and were rewarded with a shallow grave. I reckon that's why he got caught. They were trying. Even though they seemed like loners, they had enough gumption to try and get something going in the first place. Even if Auntie Sue isn't local/can't support them themselves, you bet she cares when everything turns up right and they finally get the job they've wanted. It's a bit too appealing, you don't have to be billy no mates the bog monster to find a whole load of land and some cows to take care of kind of attractive.
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Mar 19, 2017 12:03
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Found this pretty crazy story about the rise and fall of a prominent Chinese politician that includes corruption, deceit and murder.
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Ugh, the article on the guy preying on unemployed dudes. what's also sad is that if he'd kept to actual homeless dudes he probably would have gotten away with it.
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Mar 19, 2017 18:12
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Reminds me of this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Widow_Murders
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I didn't read the Atlantic article so I don't know if it's in there but I read a different long form article about that case a while back and one of the things that stayed with me was how the guy would dig their graves ahead of time and leave a $20 bill under a rock next to them, so he would know if anybody had come across the site.
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Human Tornada posted:I didn't read the Atlantic article so I don't know if it's in there but I read a different long form article about that case a while back and one of the things that stayed with me was how the guy would dig their graves ahead of time and leave a $20 bill under a rock next to them, so he would know if anybody had come across the site. Yup, that's in this article too, clever detail. These are the kind of cases that are baffling, where there are some cases where I could imagine that if I were way less ethical, more angry/greedy or whatever I could see myself in that position to hurt someone. But I can't imagine how someone decides that killing and dumping poor guys in hopes of getting a grand or two was an excellent step forward in life.
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Cat Potency posted:re: The Station, from wikipedia: That made me think of a famous heavy rock song Smoke On The Water. Someone fired a flare gun indoors, and the whole place burnt down, but fortunately everyone got out. Claude Nobs, the Montreux Jazz Festival director personally saved a few lives in the process.
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Here's a NIST recreation of the conditions of the Station Nightclub fire https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pnl5bgd21E And here's an identical stage setup with a sprinkler system. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gT1EWVR1iP8 Here's the two side by side in Youtube Doubler for comparison http://www.youtubedoubler.com/?vide...ame=aphrocarlin If you can cross your eyes and watch the two like a stereogram, do it until the sprinklers go off and ask yourself why it's acceptable for old venues to be grandfathered into ancient fire codes. Aesop Poprock posted:In regards to the Station bouncer, it's actually even worse than that if everything she writes about it actually happened:
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I'd forgotten about that serial killer long form. I read it at work a while back during a break and that was a bad decision. Those poor guys Most folks probably know some dudes like the victims and have lost contact with them over time...
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That serial killer article hit really close to home. I know a lot of guys who would jump at that offer right now, no questions asked. I have a request: a long time ago in this thread we got onto the tragedy of Inchworm, a senior citizen who got lost and died on the Appalachian trail. Here's an article about her: http://bangordailynews.com/2016/05/25/outdoors/report-missing-hiker-was-alive-for-at-least-26-days-after-her-disappearance/ I'm using her as a case study in a paper I'm writing about search and rescue attempts. In this thread someone posted an excellent and quite long article about her disappearance and the rescue attempts; it may have been before they found her body. Does anyone know what page or range of pages that was on or where on the web that article was? Thanks unnerving buddies.
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Bomrek posted:That serial killer article hit really close to home. I know a lot of guys who would jump at that offer right now, no questions asked. Was it this article? https://www.bostonglobe.com/magazine/2014/12/30/how-could-woman-just-vanish/CkjirwQF7RGnw4VkAl6TWM/story.html
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Avshalom posted:no i was being legit, they sound like genuinely lovely guys who'd just had a rough trot. the one guy carrying around an urn with his old cat's ashes in it made me extremely sad, and the man who'd message his sons to tell them he loved them every single day. the two radio buddies made me so sad, the mention of that and the trains reminded me so much of my aspergers older brother
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For those that have access to iPlayer there is a fantastic Storyville documentary, Killing for Love, about the Elizabeth Haysom/Jens Soering murder of Elizabeth's parents. It's painful because it's clear that whether Jens commited the crimes or not, the Virginia justice system was not working as intended. Jens is a very compelling person and its very obvious that whatever happened the outcome was largely due to Jens' teenage stupidity.
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drat that longform story is really disturbing to me because I'm exactly the type that would have been a target. I have some pretty close relationships with some friends and family but I live alone, and if you watched me for a few days you'd probably say I was a loner that nobody would miss. People definitely WOULD miss me but it wouldn't be immediately apparent from my day to day lifestyle. And my career path isn't exactly clear so I could see myself jumping at an employment opportunity like that if it sounded interesting.
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Most of you might be aware but we now have a longform thread: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3813353 Some amazing stuff in there.
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There's an article that I'm pretty sure was posted here. It was about a WWII vet not too long after the war ended that went on a shooting spree in his small town and killed a bunch of people, including a kid getting his hair cut. The man that wrote the article either went down that day or the next day and wrote a really good piece in a very short amount of time. I think the article won an award. Anyone remember it?
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Bobby Digital posted:Was it this article? https://www.bostonglobe.com/magazine/2014/12/30/how-could-woman-just-vanish/CkjirwQF7RGnw4VkAl6TWM/story.html Yes I think it was! Not sure why it didn't come up in my search. Thank you for finding it!
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Detective Thompson posted:There's an article that I'm pretty sure was posted here. It was about a WWII vet not too long after the war ended that went on a shooting spree in his small town and killed a bunch of people, including a kid getting his hair cut. The man that wrote the article either went down that day or the next day and wrote a really good piece in a very short amount of time. I think the article won an award. Anyone remember it? It sounds like you're talking about the Howard Unruh shooting, so start there.
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Detective Thompson posted:There's an article that I'm pretty sure was posted here. It was about a WWII vet not too long after the war ended that went on a shooting spree in his small town and killed a bunch of people, including a kid getting his hair cut. The man that wrote the article either went down that day or the next day and wrote a really good piece in a very short amount of time. I think the article won an award. Anyone remember it? This sounds like Howard Unruh, and Meyer Berger's Pulitzer-winning article about him, "Veteran Kills 12 in Mad Rampage on Camden Street". Looking for this, I found out about the Battle of Athens, which I'd never heard of before. quote:The Battle of Athens (sometimes called the McMinn County War) was a rebellion led by citizens in Athens and Etowah, Tennessee, United States, against the local government in August 1946. The citizens, including some World War II veterans, accused the local officials of predatory policing, police brutality, political corruption and voter intimidation. The event is sometimes cited by firearms ownership advocates as an example of the value of the Second Amendment in combating tyranny.
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Bomrek posted:Yes I think it was! Not sure why it didn't come up in my search.
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Yeah, it was on the Howard Unruh shooting, originally found it in the Library of America's True Crime: An American Anthology (really worth a read)quote:For a distinguished example of local reporting during the year, The New York Times submits the story by Meyer Berger of the mass shootings in Camden, New Jersey on September 6, 1949. Mr. Berger was assigned to the story by The Times City Desk shortly before 11 A.M. He caught the first available train to Camden; personally covered the story and filed approximately 4,000 words. The last of his copy reached The Times office at 9:20 P.M., about one hour before the first edition closing. In the opinion of the editors of The New York Times, Mr. Berger’s story was a brilliant example of thorough, accurate reporting and skillful writing, under pressure. Mr. Berger subsequently received the 1950 Pulitzer Prize for local reporting. Edit: Beaten, oh well.
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Besesoth posted:This sounds like Howard Unruh, and Meyer Berger's Pulitzer-winning article about him, "Veteran Kills 12 in Mad Rampage on Camden Street". There were actually loads of these little wars and uprisings in the appalachias and elsewhere. Many involved miners and working conditions too. It's a shame they're not really talked about in grade school history textbooks.
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POOL IS CLOSED posted:There were actually loads of these little wars and uprisings in the appalachias and elsewhere. Many involved miners and working conditions too. It's a shame they're not really talked about in grade school history textbooks. drat straight. And many fights to overthrow corrupt local governments. I always recommend Huey Perry's book Theyll Cut Off Your Project. All kinds of horrible poo poo in Appalachia fell outside of documentation. Only the big stuff like Matewan, Blair Mountain, and Hawk's Neat gets remembered, and even then barely so (except by cornbread communists, who are the best ever).
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