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I always thought Goddess (and Infinity Crusade as a whole) was just Infinity too far.
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Mar 17, 2017 23:33
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Didn't Magus have a fro?
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Mar 17, 2017 23:36
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Wheat Loaf posted:Didn't Magus have a fro? Yes, originally, although it got turned into a topknot around the time of the Infinity Whatever series. 
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Mar 17, 2017 23:46
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Knowing that in the future you're doomed to turn into an evil despot is a pretty interesting gimmick, and Abnett and Lanning used it really well in Guardians of the Galaxy. Adam Warlock stories can get a bit up their own rear end, especially Infinity Crusade and other late-era Starlin stuff, but he was always a very interesting character and central to a lot of Starlin's best work, just like Thanos (although Adam's design isn't quite as timeless as his evil bosom buddy's).
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Mar 18, 2017 00:02
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Didn't Warlock sacrifice the timelines where he stays good to stop the Cancerverse or something? I remember that getting really weird.
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Mar 18, 2017 00:18
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Endless Mike posted:Didn't Warlock Sort of, you're getting two storylines mixed up, but that's spoilers and I was avoiding getting into specifics because it's a really good run!!!!
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Mar 18, 2017 00:27
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warlock is a strange dude who has had a strange life
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That page sounds a little too much like the "that's good!" / "that's bad" frozen yogurt routine on the Simpsons.
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If you want to complicate Warlock's family tree even more, don't forget Greg Pak's 2004 miniseries (which, IIRC, was canceled after two issues; four were published). I think the idea of Adam having to act as a mentor to a younger, angrier version of himself is the most interesting thing anyone has done with Warlock in about a quarter century, so of course it was promptly forgotten the moment the last issue of the Pak series went off to the pulping machine.
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If you're only familiar with Adam and the Magus from poo poo like the Infinity garbage (Gauntlet is a fun read but the rest are some of the worst trash Marvel has ever put out) do yourself a favor and read Starlin's Warlock comics, top tier superhero work.Selachian posted:Yes, originally, although it got turned into a topknot around the time of the Infinity Whatever series. He got long metal hair when he was in Peter David's Captain Marvel, and was also some kind of ghost. He always has the douchiest haircut of the current era 
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Mar 18, 2017 02:41
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Selachian posted:If you want to complicate Warlock's family tree even more, don't forget Greg Pak's 2004 miniseries (which, IIRC, was canceled after two issues; four were published). No, do forget that.
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oh my loving god
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Mar 18, 2017 02:48
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I read that Doughboy introduction arc last night and I just want to say that after that image everyone gets inside Doughboy who transforms into a supersonic UFO to take them all to Zola's bio-engineered living castle where Captain America has to battle an automaton driven by Hitler's brain to prevent Zola from taking his Face Off.
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Mar 18, 2017 03:21
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Ghostlight posted:I read that Doughboy introduction arc last night and I just want to say that after that image everyone gets inside Doughboy who transforms into a supersonic UFO to take them all to Zola's bio-engineered living castle where Captain America has to battle an automaton driven by Hitler's brain to prevent Zola from taking his Face Off. Comic books are really loving dumb. Isn't it great?
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Mar 18, 2017 03:23
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Back when Adam Warlock was just Him (a golden muscle man in a speedo), he kidnapped Sif, deeming her a perfect mate. Thor went berserk with the warrior madness, and beat Him so badly, he had to return to his cocoon. The punishment for losing his godly cool, Odin sent Thor to investigate Galactus in the Odinship; Odin's personal space ship. It was a great, early cosmic Marvel saga, but really not that crazy as far as Kirby could get.
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Mar 18, 2017 05:51
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Doughboy and Joyboy need to team up
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Pastry of the Year posted:Doughboy and Joyboy need to team up CLAREMONT!
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Pastry of the Year posted:Doughboy and Joyboy need to team up Jesus, that may be the most Deviantart set of panels I've ever seen
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I wonder if Alan Davis thought Claremont or Moore was a weirder guy to collaborate with.
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Pastry of the Year posted:Doughboy and Joyboy need to team up Isn't this the same creator who made Karma (?) really fat and working for Cameron Hodge or some other villain?
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Mar 18, 2017 22:22
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Rirse posted:Isn't this the same creator who made Karma (?) really fat and working for Cameron Hodge or some other villain? Amahl Farouk, the Shadow King. And for the record, I think too much is assigned to "Claremont sure has a lot of crazy fetishes" and not enough to him just tapping into the dreams and anxieties of his target audience.
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Mar 18, 2017 22:31
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Claremont did the storyline where Karma was possessed by the Shadow King and while he controlled her she got really fat. Then he did that from Excalibur. Though really this ranks extremely low both in terms of frequency/depth of recurring fetish-y/body horror/whatever things that crop up in Claremont's X-Canon. Like barely a footnote.
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Pastry of the Year posted:And for the record, I think too much is assigned to "Claremont sure has a lot of crazy fetishes" and not enough to him just tapping into the dreams and anxieties of his target audience. Yeah, he's just doing a PG-rated spin on body horror, which has been a big part of Marvel since the jump. Ben Grimm is basically a Kafka character. Claremont gets a lot of poo poo because he's probably the most visible creator of the period, but let's face it: many of the best comics in the period surrounding his heyday were all just about as weird, especially if we're also talking about indies and early Vertigo. Howard Chaykin is almost as bad as Claremont when it comes to writing a barely-concealed version of his rich inner landscape, but he doesn't have Claremont's profile.
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Edge & Christian posted:Claremont did the storyline where Karma was possessed by the Shadow King and while he controlled her she got really fat. Then he did that from Excalibur. It's almost like teenagers have weird things happening to their bodies.
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Wheat Loaf posted:Yeah, that's the bit where Cyclops gets into a shouting match with the caption boxes. Lately I've been thinking about making some particularly good pages into mini posters and this one's going right on the short list. My Lovely Horse fucked around with this message at 23:34 on Mar 18, 2017 |
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Wanderer posted:Yeah, he's just doing a PG-rated spin on body horror, which has been a big part of Marvel since the jump. Ben Grimm is basically a Kafka character. Come to think of it, there was actually a fair amount of body horror in Technet. Aside from Joyboy, you also had... Chinadoll shrank living things and turned them into wearable charms. Bodybag paralyzed and stored people by eating them. Waxworks' touch made people not have skeletal structures 
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Day 34: Zero If you remember Zero at all chances are it's from reading way too many X-Books in the '90s. He was basically the chauffeur for Stryfe and the Mutant Liberation Front and that's pretty much it. Oh yeah, he's also an android but I'm pretty sure when this was written that hadn't been revealed.  
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I feel like a teleporter, even the type that needs to first create a portal then step through it, should get an asterisk at least for speed.
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"Can teleport to anywhere he's never been" is pretty neat I guess.
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Aphrodite posted:I feel like a teleporter, even the type that needs to first create a portal then step through it, should get an asterisk at least for speed. The Marvel wiki agrees. http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Ambient-Energy_Dampening_Actualization_Module_Unit_Zero_(Earth-4935)
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Mar 19, 2017 02:26
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Pretty sure those 90s trading cards used a similar asterisk.
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Synthbuttrange posted:"Can teleport to anywhere he's never been" is pretty neat I guess. It says cannot, but I agree. I always liked when mutants would have a special twist on an otherwise stock power. Like Lila Cheney's teleportation: she can go to another planet with ease, but going to another place on the same planet isn't really her thing. HitTheTargets fucked around with this message at 05:50 on Mar 19, 2017 |
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I made an X-Men ABC book when I was in third grade in like 93'-94', and Zero saved my rear end at the end. Only knew he existed because of a Mutant Liberation Front card.
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HitTheTargets posted:It says cannot, but I agree. I always liked when mutants would have a special twist on an otherwise stock power. Like Lila Cheney's teleportation: she can go to another planet with ease, but going to another place on the same planet isn't really her thing. I feel like these sort of quirks were more common when writers were big on whipping up elaborate pseudoscience bullshit to justify how random genetic mutation could, say, let somebody teleport to a Hell-adjacent pocket dimension, which is another reason why I wish that was still a big thing. Of course, it could also just be that there's like ~100 mutants left and they all have relatively straightforward power sets.
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I think they were also more common when there was a concerted attempt to avoid overpowered characters in the Marvel universe, to avoid the perceived problems at DC. Even heavy hitters like Hulk and Thor were saddled with weaknesses for that specific reason. Kitty Pryde used to have to hold her breath to stay intangible, giving her a time limit on the ability because otherwise it would be really, really overpowered. That sort of idea that no one can be too powerful has faded away in the last 20+ years.
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X-O posted:Day 34: Zero First thought on seeing him was that he was the big guy from the Batman Beyond version of the Royal Flush Gang.
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Cabbit posted:I feel like these sort of quirks were more common when writers were big on whipping up elaborate pseudoscience bullshit to justify how random genetic mutation could, say, let somebody teleport to a Hell-adjacent pocket dimension, which is another reason why I wish that was still a big thing. I haven't thought about it much, but I always assumed it was just as much a Claremontism as the body modification and "No quarter asked."
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Lurdiak posted:Kitty Pryde used to have to hold her breath to stay intangible, giving her a time limit on the ability because otherwise it would be really, really overpowered. That sort of idea that no one can be too powerful has faded away in the last 20+ years.
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