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Pants Donkey posted:Trumpcare still has a penalty if you don't get insurance. I believe insurance companies can hike your premiums by like 30% for a year if you didn't have insurance the previous year. Even better, the 30% rate hike applies if you don't have coverage for more than 63 days within the past year.
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SeANMcBAY posted:I love how college students are cowardly sensitive "snowflakes" yet also violent thugs in the minds of conservatives. Theres gotta be a name for that fallacy...
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 Some conservative cartoonists are noting the crazy cold weather still happening. Others are noting the crazy warm weather. Clearly both mean Global Warming isn't a thing. 
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maybe it's because even though there wasn't snowstorms in the sky they were still right about there BEING A SKY, dan. also, gotta love "scientists". climatologists are dietitians are anthropologists are dentists are archaeologists are chemists and all of those have the exact same margins of error, right?
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Mar 19, 2017 08:56
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Yeah, predicting the future is equally as easy as drawing conclusions about the past. Notoriously so, even. 
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Dan's probably just mad that archaeology disproves a literal reading of the Old Testament, even most of the historical parts.
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Flipperwaldt posted:Yeah, predicting the future is equally as easy as drawing conclusions about the past. Notoriously so, even. I wonder how Dan feels about all the doomsdayers claiming that the rapture is definitely going to happen this week and this time it's for realsies unlike the last hundred thousand times
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Remind me again, what was his view of things when the court would rule against Obama for some minor something? gently caress off you fascist fanboy.
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Finally finished the Ramirez profile: http://imgur.com/a/QrEjj Still need the parody of his tea party / OWS comparison, and a few more AGCs.
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Not sure how you pulled that off without your eyes glazing over and making the pod people screech, but bless you all the same.
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Yeah that's a great overview and a great way to introduce him to people who don't follow politoons. Even had a few I hadn't seen before, like the vile "America's debt is like a grown man kidnapping a child" take. I think these albums should really be added to the artist overview in the OP so new readers can delve a bit deeper into them.
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Just a shame it doesn't have his "in a pickle" cartoon, because that has got to be the worst-constructed political cartoon I've ever seen.
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Hihohe posted:Theres gotta be a name for that fallacy...
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Xander77 posted:Finally finished the Ramirez profile: Should probably label the Burger King one as an edit, otherwise it looks like he had a rare moment of self-awareness and mocked his own cartoons. Also it's missing the Interstellar one which is my favorite DEBT cartoon.
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Keiya posted:Should probably label the Burger King one as an edit, otherwise it looks like he had a rare moment of self-awareness and mocked his own cartoons. Tenebrais posted:Just a shame it doesn't have his "in a pickle" cartoon, because that has got to be the worst-constructed political cartoon I've ever seen. ... So, tea party vs OWS edit, anyone?
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Radish posted:Nazi solidarity. It's a little odd, since historically various fascist groups don't really hang together all that well. And not enough of them hanged separately, for that matter.
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Mar 19, 2017 15:17
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Has anyone told Lester that the NEA helped fund the Vietnam War Memorial?
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.Edward Penischin posted:Has anyone told Lester that the NEA helped fund the Vietnam War Memorial? He likes soldiers who didn't get killed.
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 This made me smile almost as much as the dutch election results did. 
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Xander77 posted:Done. Swear I had Interstellar in there - imgur is pretty bad about uploading so many images at once. My favorite Ramirez of all time was from the early Bush years, with one dinosaur announcing "hurr durr climate change is a problem" and another looking at it and thinking "you have a brain the size of a walnut." It's probably not particularly remarkable except that it's one of the first political cartoons that I can remember.
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Abyssal Squid posted:My favorite Ramirez of all time was from the early Bush years, with one dinosaur announcing "hurr durr climate change is a problem" and another looking at it and thinking "you have a brain the size of a walnut." ?
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Nope, it was only two dinosaurs, with the characteristic white halo separating them from the dense jungle background. This was back in 2001-2004. Good to know that he loves recycling this cartoon, too, though!
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Mar 19, 2017 15:49
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.Edward Penischin posted:Has anyone told Lester that the NEA helped fund the Vietnam War Memorial? It's worth remembering that when the Vietnam War Memorial was built, conservatives went apeshit. It was too unconventional and modern, too dark and depressing, and including the names of the dead put the focus exactly where they didn't want it: on how much America lost in that stupid war. And worst of all, it was designed by a young Asian-American woman! That's why they have a group of bronze soldiers and a flag near one end of the memorial -- because they had to add in a more traditional patriotic memorial element to calm down the wingnuts.
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SSNeoman posted:I'm seriously thinking of starting a thread about this dis-invitation thing. I can't believe what an overblown nothingburger this is. "Ya see, just like you don't want your tax dollars going towards abortions, students don't want their tuition dollars going to Nazis."
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Selachian posted:It's worth remembering that when the Vietnam War Memorial was built, conservatives went apeshit. It was too unconventional and modern, too dark and depressing, and including the names of the dead put the focus exactly where they didn't want it: on how much America lost in that stupid war. And worst of all, it was designed by a young Asian-American woman! That's why they have a group of bronze soldiers and a flag near one end of the memorial -- because they had to add in a more traditional patriotic memorial element to calm down the wingnuts. Aren't the bronze statues the Korean War memorial right next to it?
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Selachian posted:It's worth remembering that when the Vietnam War Memorial was built, conservatives went apeshit. It was too unconventional and modern, too dark and depressing, and including the names of the dead put the focus exactly where they didn't want it: on how much America lost in that stupid war. And worst of all, it was designed by a young Asian-American woman! That's why they have a group of bronze soldiers and a flag near one end of the memorial -- because they had to add in a more traditional patriotic memorial element to calm down the wingnuts. *rushes into thread at top speed* The memorialization of Vietnam is fascinating both in how it originally happened, and how conservative elements did their level best to make sure the war was remembered on their terms, as a heroic effort betrayed, with its heroes abandoned. As such, the wall was as you mention not initially popular but with the early-80s redefinition of the war in popular culture toward one much more focused on the imaginary abandoned POWs who never came home, the wall became much more attractive (much like the black POW/MIA flag, commissioned by the National League of Families back in the mid-70s) as a way to claim heroic victimhood status for the war by those who had most enthusiastically supported it during the event, and who had dug their heels in most stubbornly with regards to actually ending it. Particularly with the rise of the false but persistent idea of live MIAs being secretly held in Indochina, the wall was transformed from being a sober reminder of a misguided, pointless blunder that cost America so many lives, into a memorial to lost heroes waiting to be redeemed once Real Americatm remembers what it is to win again and gets its own back. Edible Hat posted:Aren't the bronze statues the Korean War memorial right next to it? Those are nearby, but he's referring to these guys:  The Korean War Memorial is a bit more haunting, to go with the whole "Forgotten War" thing: 
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Trapezium Dave posted:I like how the student clearly recognises Drunky Duck, skips waiting for the questions and goes straight to messing with him. A lot of these comics read best that way. Every time Drinky is addressing a graduating class, I picture the audience as the crowds in "The Life of Brian". He's trying to be serious with his pronouncement of "welease... woger!" and the audience is all there to laugh at him.
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 Observer:  "The demons that haunt Theresa May's dreams – Chris Riddell on the mounting pressures facing the prime minister" Sunday Telegraph:  Gordon Brown pushes 'patriotic' third option for Scotland after Brexit Independent on Sunday:  Sunday Times: 
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The Vietnam War memorial bugs me because it should also include the Vietnamese dead.
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MonsieurChoc posted:The Vietnam War memorial bugs me because it should also include the Vietnamese dead. Welcome to the wonderful world of propaganda.
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MonsieurChoc posted:The Vietnam War memorial bugs me because it should also include the Vietnamese dead. I'm sending framed prints of this post to all of my relatives.
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Cloud Potato posted:Independent on Sunday:
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MonsieurChoc posted:The Vietnam War memorial bugs me because it should also include the Vietnamese dead. A large and intentional part of Vietnam memorialization is the appropriation of suffering/victimhood for use in rehabilitation those who inflicted it in the first place. 
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Captain_Maclaine posted:A large and intentional part of Vietnam memorialization is the appropriation of suffering/victimhood for use in rehabilitation those who inflicted it in the first place. Pretty sure there wasn't a single conscript responsible for sending troops into Vietnam, or for using KDR as a benchmark for success.
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Abyssal Squid posted:Pretty sure there wasn't a single conscript responsible for sending troops into Vietnam, or for using KDR as a benchmark for success. Neither are they the ones being rehabilitated, except as mute, anonymous symbols of a heroic effort betrayed by peaceniks and commies.
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MonsieurChoc posted:The Vietnam War memorial bugs me because it should also include the Vietnamese dead. the same could be said of all war memorials well, 'cept the nazis, they can die nameless
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Captain_Maclaine posted:Neither are they the ones being rehabilitated, except as mute, anonymous symbols of a heroic effort betrayed by peaceniks and commies. I thought we were talking about the Vietnam Memorial in DC, the black slab that lists the names of conscripts who died for the sake of a pointless war?
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Abyssal Squid posted:I thought we were talking about the Vietnam Memorial in DC, the black slab that lists the names of conscripts who died for the sake of a pointless war? I was referring to Vietnam memorialization in general, within which the wall plays a large but not exclusive part. Though the original artist did not design it to serve the function I'm describing, the idea of "the wall as testimony to our victimization" has long since become embedded in rightwing consciousness and through them and the dedicated campaign in the 1980s they led to recast the narrative of Vietnam as one of American suffering, a part of the larger popular understanding of what the war was all about. Any mention of, you know, how the war actually went down and who exactly suffered the most (and at whose hands) would threaten this narrative, thus my mention how the Vietnamese get intentionally left out of Vietnam War memorialization.
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