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alf_pogs posted:the queen turns a cool self-contained weird lifecycle into an annoying chicken-egg question. all cos james cameron just wanted to see alien but bigger it's the coolest alien so uh i think he did pretty good. plus you can't do the power loader scene with some normie xeno.
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Groovelord Neato posted:it's the coolest alien so uh i think he did pretty good. plus you can't do the power loader scene with some normie xeno. you have me there
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The design was loosely based on a Giger painting too: I don't think it's possible to do a 1:1 practical design from that nightmare but you can see parts of the queen in there. I never noticed before that it kinda looks like it's sitting on an egg sack, although who knows what Giger intended that to be (if anything).
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Apparently the next Alien movie will be a prequel to Covenant  quote:Recently, Scott said he could continue making Alien movies as long as there's an appetite for them, and that the next film is already written. We tried to ask him just how many were on the books now, and we warn you that the following may be a bit spoilery...
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Mar 18, 2017 15:06
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AAAHAHAHAHA that rules.
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Groovelord Neato posted:do the xenomorphs have genitals. is the queen born preggers. I always assumed it was parthenogenesis
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alf_pogs posted:the queen turns a cool self-contained weird lifecycle into an annoying chicken-egg question. all cos james cameron just wanted to see alien but bigger The Queen was also important to Cameron's themes of motherhood.
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Mar 18, 2017 16:52
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Bring on all Ridley Scott alien movies forever.
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Xenomrph posted:The Queen was also important to Cameron's themes of motherhood. v oedipal
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"Ridley, loving what?" "You heard me. The Notebook, with Xenomorphs." "Christ...Here, take the check and get the gently caress out of my office."
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Scott said he wants to bring Russel Crowe back for another Gladiator movie, but it may not be Nick Cave's Maximus v Jesus Dawn of Christianity though.
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The Alien Queen is not real. It is considered C cannon. Barely above fan fiction.
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SUNKOS posted:Apparently the next Alien movie will be a prequel to Covenant Haha this series is going to be a mess
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Leavemywife posted:"Ridley, loving what?" I'm not against this!
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Professor Shark posted:Haha this series is going to be a mess Ridley likes to start in the middle and then spiral out of control.
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Professor Shark posted:Haha this series is going to be a mess Bursting forth from his mind like a horrific Lovecraftian Athena.
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The MSJ posted:Scott said he wants to bring Russel Crowe back for another Gladiator movie, but it may not be Nick Cave's Maximus v Jesus Dawn of Christianity though. I'm sure we can mix those two somehow. Somehow.
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Given how Scott made Blackhawk Down, I'd sort of want to see his take on Aliens.
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well today i saw logan (v enjoyable) and immediately beforehand copped the trailers for life and alien cov. the xeno on the spaceship exterior looked great. i like gyllenhal and even ryan reynolds sometimes, but cast against ridley's bonkers space opera horror, it looked like a sad fart
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There was an Alien game for the PS1 I think (not Alien Trilogy) that was one of the first games to require the dual shock controller. I forget the name of it but I remember really liking the atmosphere of it and the graphics but, back then, I couldn't get the hang of the 3d controls and the dual analog stick interface. Seems stupid now since very game uses it but when the double analog sticks first came out it was really hard to adjust to them. I also remember the game being very hard, even on easy setting, but again I recall that having more to with not being able to work the controls. I guess it was Alien: Resurrection but that doesn't sound right. Saw the trailer yesterday during Logan and it looks pretty good I have to admit. I'm a little concerned about how many name actors there are which I'm concerned may take me out of the film. Danny McBride, for instance, is just being Danny McBride again. I like him but I worry his schtick will be too much and detract from the tension.
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the best alien game is the first level of the alien tc (total conversion) for doom.
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No one mentioned the alien 3 game for SNES. Edit : my local arcade just picked up the aliens game from way back when. I spent tons of money on it as a kid.
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BiggerBoat posted:There was an Alien game for the PS1 I think (not Alien Trilogy) that was one of the first games to require the dual shock controller. I forget the name of it but I remember really liking the atmosphere of it and the graphics but, back then, I couldn't get the hang of the 3d controls and the dual analog stick interface. You're definitely thinking of the Alien Resurrection game, that was the first FPS to use the now-common dual-thumbstick control scheme.
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Groovelord Neato posted:the best alien game is the first level of the alien tc (total conversion) for doom. This. It's difficult to describe how groundbreaking this was at the time. You know how many games today have a first area with no enemies in it and just world building stuff so you can organically walk around and get use to the controls? I think this may have straight up been the first FPS to do that. It was also the first FPS to have seriously vast levels, like they'd break the vertical limit of the engine and you'd get a moire effect at points but oh my god I'm literally taking the elevator into the lower level of the atmospheric processor from Aliens and able to look around at all of it in all its glory. And that the creator (Justin Fisher?) got so many scripted voice samples from the movie too to trigger when you walk into/by key parts of the game? Amazing. The only flaw in Aliens TC is that the aliens themselves are kind of murky and washed out looking, but that was the best you could get with one person rolling with 3D Studio Max at the time. But even a lot of the official alien games from the 90s have, pathetically, bad looking aliens. Probe's Alien 3 games for sure, they all look like crap except on the totally awesome SNES version, Alien 3: The Gun, and (somehow) on the Sega Master System. They don't look so good in the PSX Alien Resurrection either. Like with those early 90s Alien 3 games they sacrificed the quality of the characters for having nicer scenery.
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I maintain that Xenophobe for the NES is the best Alien game.
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Just read up on the various Alien3 scripts, and that Eric Red script... 
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Kulkasha posted:Just read up on the various Alien3 scripts, and that Eric Red script... Does it have a lot of vehicular homicide in it?
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:Does it have a lot of vehicular homicide in it?
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Huh, bit of a departure for Red then
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Alien TC's opening level was amazing for its concept. The only downside is that I'm pretty sure I played it on the wrong version of Doom; I remember a lot of the hive level having weird buggy geometry that I had to enable noclip to walk through. I'm pretty confident AvP2's first Marine campaign level being really tense and full of movement that triggers your motion tracker but (IIRC) devoid entirely of enemies was a solid nod to Alien TC.
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UmOk posted:I maintain that Xenophobe for the NES is the best Alien game. Based on the proportion of my gaming quarters it got, I have to concur.
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AlternateAccount posted:John Carter somehow takes straight ahead simple pulp scifi and makes it mostly inscrutable. It's the ships. They did not hold back much when it came to production design. Also the heroine was a faaaaantastic actor. The movie should have been more about her.
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UmOk posted:I maintain that Xenophobe for the NES is the best Alien game. Ummm I think you'll notice that the *chuckles* "xenomorph" on the cover has EYES, and, if you were paying attention, those were butt-huggers attacking the character, not face huggers. Obviously this game has nothing to do/garners no inspiration from the Aliens franchise!
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Neo Rasa posted:This. Isn't the very first AV:P game literally inspired by the Aliens TC of Doom?
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Mayberry it's because I was young, but the first marine level of the 1999 PC AVP game is probably the scariest and most tense video gaming level Does it hold up in 2017?
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Isn't the very first AV:P game literally inspired by the Aliens TC of Doom?
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Waffles Inc. posted:Mayberry it's because I was young, but the first marine level of the 1999 PC AVP game is probably the scariest and most tense video gaming level I'm super biased because I'm a huge fan of the Derelict design, and you get to explore that in the first Marine level and it's loving great.  I still really like AvPClassic, it's like $5 on Steam and very worth it. Yeah the graphics haven't aged real well, but the gameplay is tense as poo poo, the Aliens are stupid-fast and insanely powerful on higher difficulties, and the AI is so unpredictable that it lends a lot of replay value to the game.
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david_a posted:The Jaguar game? It was released earlier in 1994. That game actually has a more primitive engine than Doom. Aliens TC was extremely influential in the gaming industry, though, and I don't doubt that nearly everyone in the industry back in the 90s played it. id Software actually looked into getting an Aliens license in the early phases of what would become Doom but they thought the price was too high. The concept they went with instead was "Aliens meets Evil Dead II." Huh, interesting.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Isn't the very first AV:P game literally inspired by the Aliens TC of Doom? Definitely, quite a few FPS were heavily inspired by it and I don't think anyone would have attempted an AvP game at that point in time if not for it. That marine campaign in that AvP Jaguar is pretty different though and a little more like a very simple System Shock 1, but with more typical of the time levels, no vertical space, etc. For the time I liked the way they differentiated the three characters was cool. The marine goes back and forth around the different decks of the station getting keycards and finding progressively better weapons. The Predator has to worry about his score, he gets/loses varying amounts of points depending on how he kills enemies and how much damage he takes, and gets awarded the spear/etc. weapons when he's deemed honorable enough. The alien can use air ducts to crawl all over the place safely and can also cocoon dudes instead of killing them, which will ***morph them into an egg*** the most recent of which become's the player's checkpoint if they die.
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Neo Rasa posted:Definitely, quite a few FPS were heavily inspired by it and I don't think anyone would have attempted an AvP game at that point in time if not for it. 
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