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pubic works project posted:Lmao yeah I know, but I wouldn't spend the #4 back on a RB. Maybe a 3rd rounder. This is what folks said about Zeke, and before you mention Jordan Howard, I'm pretty sure the former will be around for much longer. Hopefully the Cowboys situation can make NFL execs realize that an all-pro RB can make life much easier for grooming a young QB. E: In fact, that may be exactly what the Jags are thinking.
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John Brown posted:This is what folks said about Zeke, and before you mention Jordan Howard, I'm pretty sure the former will be around for much longer. Hopefully the Cowboys situation can make NFL execs realize that an all-pro RB can make life much easier for grooming a young QB. The cowboys also have a line that can block the jags dont
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Metapod posted:The cowboys also have a line that can block the jags dont If Fournette is a generational talent (as many have said he has the potential be), then he'll be good enough to produce for a couple years while a team builds around him.
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Kaepernick has one of the lowest interception rates among active QBs.  Edit: 5 career multi-INT games and 10 of 30 career INTs in 3 games. Hard to throw interceptions into the dirt Spoeank fucked around with this message at 21:21 on Mar 18, 2017 |
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Spoeank posted:Kaepernick has one of the lowest interception rates among active QBs. He throws the ball so hard DB's can't catch it either.
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The Vikings should sign kaep so he can own the packers twice this year
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:I agree with your first sentence. I think there are better players to draft at 4 though. I really like Solomon Thomas and an argument could be made for other players that will be available at that spot. I'd love Thomas too, but he might not even be available at 4. If Fournette really is as good as advertised, he'd probably be well worth a top 5 pick though. Holy hell they better draft a guard or too because dang that line is something else
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Hey everybody, just a heads-up that the 2017 Goon Draft thread is up right here, so come on down and pick your teams if you want to participate
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John Brown posted:This is what folks said about Zeke, and before you mention Jordan Howard, I'm pretty sure the former will be around for much longer. Hopefully the Cowboys situation can make NFL execs realize that an all-pro RB can make life much easier for grooming a young QB. Don't trigger me like that. I wanted the Colts to take Howard in the 4th round, but nooooooooooooo
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I want the Jags to fix the line and grab a great RB, just because I prefer four yards and a cloud of dust football.
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Spoeank posted:Kaepernick has one of the lowest interception rates among active QBs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOFXsYuYGLw
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:I agree with your first sentence. I think there are better players to draft at 4 though. I really like Solomon Thomas and an argument could be made for other players that will be available at that spot. I actually think Thomas makes a lot more sense, even if Fowler ends up panning out. It's not like you can ever have too many edge rushers. I'm just saying that Fournette wouldn't be that crazy a pick for them. John Brown posted:This is what folks said about Zeke, and before you mention Jordan Howard, I'm pretty sure the former will be around for much longer. Hopefully the Cowboys situation can make NFL execs realize that an all-pro RB can make life much easier for grooming a young QB. Honestly, I don't understand why Howard fell as far as he did. He was projected consistently as a top five running back. I'm not convinced Zeke is that much better than Howard. Howard did as much as Zeke with a lot less to work with. Hell, you could argue he did more.
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Sataere posted:I'm just saying that Fournette wouldn't be that crazy a pick for them. Yeldon was a high second round pick and he ain't done poo poo.
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:I think Fournette would be crazy because the Jaguars don't have the OL that the Cowboys do, so drafting a top tier RB in the same spot will not have a similar effect. A top RB can thrive with a poo poo line, and average guy can with Dallas'. Your poo poo line is exactly why fournette is a good choice, if the coaches think he can be good. He takes pressure off Bortles and keeps defenses honest so that you can try to get that Passing game going.
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Chichevache posted:A top RB can thrive with a poo poo line, and average guy can with Dallas'. Your poo poo line is exactly why fournette is a good choice, if the coaches think he can be good. He takes pressure off Bortles and keeps defenses honest so that you can try to get that Passing game going. It takes a really, really good rb to be able to do that these days though. Lb's are faster and dt's are bigger than ever
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Yeah he has that crazy interception reputation because he melts down in hilarious, high profile ways (back to back pick sixes, the Sherman rant)
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Chichevache posted:A top RB can thrive with a poo poo line, and average guy can with Dallas'. Your poo poo line is exactly why fournette is a good choice, if the coaches think he can be good. He takes pressure off Bortles and keeps defenses honest so that you can try to get that Passing game going. Fournette isn't the back for that.
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TBeats posted:Fournette isn't the back for that. Yeah, was going to say this.
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TBeats posted:Fournette isn't the back for that.
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:My point exactly. He doesnt look like he runs like Beast Mode. There's more than one way to do it. Barry never really had the best o lines. But like I said, it takes a special back to be able to consistently make poo poo happen regardless of who is in front of them.
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Volkerball posted:There's more than one way to do it. Barry never really had the best o lines. But like I said, it takes a special back to be able to consistently make poo poo happen regardless of who is in front of them. Barry also had legs the size of redwoods and had some of the best lateral movement in human history. I also don't remember him having injury problems.
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we've already seen fournette vs NFL talent defensive fronts behind a bad line and both times bama held him to like -40 yards on 20 attempts. it was brutal and he's not a guy who can transcend zero blocking
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Volkerball posted:Barry never really had the best o lines. Not strictly true. The O Line on the 91 team that went to the NFC Championship game was pretty drat good. But Utley got paralyzed, I think another one died in the off season... But yeah, o line almost didn't matter for Barry. Dude was borderline untackleable.
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Q_res posted:Not strictly true. The O Line on the 91 team that went to the NFC Championship game was pretty drat good. But Utley got paralyzed, I think another one died in the off season... Fun fact: Barry Sanders is the all time leader in negative yards from scrimmage.
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And still never once put up a <1000 yard.
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Q_res posted:And still never once put up a <1000 yard. And still averaged 5 yards per carry over his career.
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mastershakeman posted:we've already seen fournette vs NFL talent defensive fronts behind a bad line and both times bama held him to like -40 yards on 20 attempts. it was brutal and he's not a guy who can transcend zero blocking Yeah I am not sold on Fournette at all. I watched a few LSU games this past season and he looked bad. Couldn't get anything done on the ground.
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Fournette and Gurley both failed my super secret runningback test: if they aren't the best back on the team their last year in college don't draft them early
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Raku posted:Fournette and Gurley both failed my super secret runningback test: if they aren't the best back on the team their last year in college don't draft them early Wasn't gurley out with an ACL tear? Not sure I agree with your methodology
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Thaddius the Large posted:At least this Peyton won't be rubbing his balls on anyone unsolicited. Have you seen a dog in real life? That's all they do.
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Volkerball posted:Wasn't gurley out with an ACL tear? Not sure I agree with your methodology Not at first and either way Chubb was still better
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My super secret test for drafting running backs is do not take anyone in the first round unless you have an all pro line first.
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