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Volkerball
Oct 15, 2009

by FactsAreUseless

Randler posted:

I know your education system is as worthless as your cultural output, but the correct term in this case would be specieism.

*dances finger over howitzer trigger*

Make your move

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Gin and Juche
Apr 3, 2008

The Highest Judge of Paradise
Shiki Eiki
YAMAXANADU

cinci zoo sniper posted:

this grocer carries acme vr headset for 13.99 :stonklol:

hw is acme a real company

Gin and Juche
Apr 3, 2008

The Highest Judge of Paradise
Shiki Eiki
YAMAXANADU

Volkerball posted:

*dances finger over howitzer trigger*

Make your move

i thought they pulled a cord

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




Gin and Juche posted:

hw is acme a real company
because they carry lots of affordable for ee stuff that is not outright bad. 5-10 dollar computer peripherals, and various cheaper disposables for electronics

like, i bought new pair of buds from that stand in that store just now, since 3.99 quality is enough for me on the go

Gin and Juche
Apr 3, 2008

The Highest Judge of Paradise
Shiki Eiki
YAMAXANADU

cinci zoo sniper posted:

because they carry lots of affordable for ee stuff that is not outright bad. 5-10 dollar computer peripherals, and various cheaper disposables for electronics

like, i bought new pair of buds from that stand in that store just now, since 3.99 quality is enough for me on the go

did you ever get their slingshot rocket or box of portable holes?

Volkerball
Oct 15, 2009

by FactsAreUseless

Gin and Juche posted:

i thought they pulled a cord

Idk. Artillery is for cowards. Shame on the Germans for making it a focal point of modern warfare.

Volkerball
Oct 15, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
In machining, there's also a type of thread called ACME threads

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




Gin and Juche posted:

did you ever get their slingshot rocket or box of portable holes?
ive never seen an acme product that is not related to computers or portable electronics

Gin and Juche
Apr 3, 2008

The Highest Judge of Paradise
Shiki Eiki
YAMAXANADU

cinci zoo sniper posted:

ive never seen an acme product that is not related to computers or portable electronics

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsyJX3sESjs

Randler
Jan 3, 2013

ACER ET VEHEMENS BONAVIS

Volkerball posted:

Idk. Artillery is for cowards. Shame on the Germans for making it a focal point of modern warfare.

Can I get a second opinion on this from a marine instead of an army backbencher?

Paracaidas
Sep 24, 2016
Consistently Tedious!

cinci zoo sniper posted:

ive never seen an acme product that is not related to computers or portable electronics

:thejoke:

(except, like, the wall gets a tunnel painted on it by the coyote)

Volkerball
Oct 15, 2009

by FactsAreUseless

Randler posted:

Can I get a second opinion on this from a marine instead of an army backbencher?

Sorry, they're all busy trying to figure out why their piece of poo poo 50 cal won't fuckin shoot right since they don't know how to head space and time it.

Gin and Juche
Apr 3, 2008

The Highest Judge of Paradise
Shiki Eiki
YAMAXANADU

Randler posted:

Can I get a second opinion on this from a marine instead of an army backbencher?

ive been on th water which at least makes me a sub marine

Randler
Jan 3, 2013

ACER ET VEHEMENS BONAVIS

I have seen pictures of your American malls and suburbs. Clearly the rotund spheroids that make up the American populus must biologically differ from the bipedal humans in some way.

(Dark matter pyhsics manipulation might also be involved in keeping the lardmasses of the average American from collapsing upon itself.)

Randler
Jan 3, 2013

ACER ET VEHEMENS BONAVIS

Volkerball posted:

Sorry, they're all busy trying to figure out why their piece of poo poo 50 cal won't fuckin shoot right since they don't know how to head space and time it.

Whatever you tell yourself at night to forget that the US Army is a glorified gendarmerie corps that comes in after the real military, i.e. USMC, has done the actual fighting.

Volkerball
Oct 15, 2009

by FactsAreUseless

Randler posted:

I have seen pictures of your American malls and suburbs. Clearly the rotund spheroids that make up the American populus must biologically differ from the bipedal humans in some way.

(Dark matter pyhsics manipulation might also be involved in keeping the lardmasses of the average American from collapsing upon itself.)

Your peoples are virtually indistinguishable from those who bred with neanderthals in the ancient world. We are the next evolutionary step forward.

Volkerball
Oct 15, 2009

by FactsAreUseless

Randler posted:

Whatever you tell yourself at night to forget that the US Army is a glorified gendarmerie corps that comes in after the real military, i.e. USMC, has done the actual fighting.

How many Marines are in Syria right now? That'd be none.

Gin and Juche
Apr 3, 2008

The Highest Judge of Paradise
Shiki Eiki
YAMAXANADU

Volkerball posted:

How many Marines are in Syria right now? That'd be none.

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/03/marines-syria-170309014847784.html

Ghost of Reagan Past
Oct 7, 2003

rock and roll fun
randler is totally an American
https://twitter.com/yashar/status/843186022561316868

Volkerball
Oct 15, 2009

by FactsAreUseless

Oh right, Trump specifically wanted to have collateral damage.

Randler
Jan 3, 2013

ACER ET VEHEMENS BONAVIS

Volkerball posted:

Oh right, Trump specifically wanted to have collateral damage.

Collateral damage is preferable to the direct and intentional targetting of civilians the US Army specialises in.

Gin and Juche
Apr 3, 2008

The Highest Judge of Paradise
Shiki Eiki
YAMAXANADU

Did you really have to go that far back?

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




Randler posted:

If I remember the article those images are from correctly, those are actually considered middle class in America. :colbert:

cinci zoo sniper posted:

correct, ill link the article once i get to the computer



In the nick of time, and amid much political drama, Congress passed the American Taxpayer Relief Act on New Year's Day—averting massive tax increases for nearly all earners that were slated to take effect Jan. 1.

Even so, millions of people soon will feel something less than relief from the new law.

While the top 1% of taxpayers will bear the biggest burden, many other families, affluent and poor, will pay more as well.

The most immediate change affects nearly all workers: Congress allowed a two-percentage-point cut for the employee portion of the Social Security tax to expire. As a result, each will owe up to $2,425 more in payroll tax this year than in 2012.

Beyond that, the new law's effects will be highly individualized—and in some cases highly painful.

Back-Door Tax Increases
At first glance the law appears simple. In terms of income tax, for example, only the highest tax rate in 2012—the 35% bracket—will increase in 2013, to 39.6%. And that applies only to individuals with at least $400,000 of taxable income or couples with at least $450,000.

But there are two back-door tax increases that will apply to people earning far less—$250,000 for singles and $300,000 for couples.

The first concerns the personal exemption, or the amount of money a taxpayer can deduct for him or herself and dependents. In 2013, this exemption is expected to be $3,900, so a couple with three children could deduct $19,500.

In 2013 the exemption phases out for people starting at the $250,000/$300,000 income thresholds, and vanishes completely for couples at $422,500 of "adjusted gross income," or income before itemized deductions, and at $372,500 for singles. So, a couple with three children and adjusted gross income of $300,000 or more will lose some or all of their $19,500 exemption.

The other new provision is called Pease, named after former Rep. Donald Pease (D., Ohio). It is a complex limitation on all itemized deductions—including charitable donations and mortgage interest—that will eliminate up to 80% of deductions for taxpayers above the $250,000/$300,000 income thresholds. Experts say this phaseout effectively adds about one percentage point to the top tax rate, including the top rate on capital gains.

The overall result is that, for many families, 2013 tax rates won't be as advertised. While a retired couple with $180,000 of income and $25,000 of deductions could see no change in their federal tax next year, a single parent of two children earning $260,000 with $30,000 of deductions could see a $3,300 increase.

Unanswered Questions
Adding to the frustration, many issues remain unanswered. The Internal Revenue Service hasn't released the new inflation-adjusted tax brackets for 2013, making it difficult for taxpayers to plan, though an IRS spokesman says the agency hopes to publish them soon.

And the Pease limit's effect will vary depending on individual circumstances. For example, people who live in high-tax states may find their charitable deductions are just as valuable as last year, if not more so, says Robert Gordon, president of Twenty-First Securities in New York. But people in low- or no-tax states such as Washington or Nevada could find their charitable deductions cost considerably more, Mr. Gordon says.

In essence, the new law "replaces uncertainty with confusion," says David Lifson, an accountant at Crowe Horwath in New York. "Only tax wizards can understand the entirety, especially for people earning between $200,000 and $450,000."

To help you get a grasp of your own 2013 taxes, the Tax Policy Center, a nonpartisan group in Washington, has devised a calculator, available on its website at http://calculator.taxpolicycenter.org/, that can help you crunch the numbers.

To be sure, one thorny issue did become clearer and more predictable as a result of the new law: estate taxes. Lawmakers retained the $5 million individual exemption for gift and estate taxes and kept it indexed for inflation, while raising the tax rate to 40% from 35%—about the best outcome many could have hoped for. And these changes are permanent, so advisers and families won't have to think for a moment about a relative dying in one year versus another.

While there still is plenty to digest, here is an early assessment of how the most important provisions could affect you.

Individual income-tax rates. For most people these rates remain the same as last year, but for the wealthiest there is a new permanent top rate of 39.6%, compared with 35% for 2012. The threshold for the top rate is $450,000 of taxable income for married couples filing jointly and $400,000 for single filers.

Oddly, the 35% rate seems to remain in effect for people with taxable income between about $398,000 and the new top-rate thresholds. So, for singles, the 35% bracket would span only from about $398,000 to $400,000, and to $450,000 for couples.

Investment income. The new law doesn't tax dividends at the same rate as wages and other ordinary income, a change that was set to occur this year before the deal was struck.

Instead, the new law leaves dividends in the same category as capital gains on investments held longer than a year, known as long-term gains.

But the law permanently raises rates on long-term gains and dividends for top-bracket taxpayers. People who have enough income to pay tax at 39.6% will owe 20% on their net long-term gains, as opposed to 15% in 2012.

Meanwhile, the 15% rate will continue to apply to taxpayers in the 25%, 28%, 33% and 35% income-tax brackets, and people in the 10% and 15% brackets will continue to have a zero rate on capital gains and dividends.

Another new tax on investment income, passed in 2010 as part of the Affordable Care Act, takes effect as well. The new 3.8% levy applies to net investment income above a threshold of $250,000 for couples ($200,000, singles).

Alternative minimum tax. Lawmakers adjusted the 2012 threshold for this complex tax and permanently indexed for inflation three of the variables that determine it.

The AMT was originally passed in 1969 to apply to wealthy people using many tax strategies. Over time its reach has spread, especially to residents of high-tax states, and Congress has passed many temporary "patches" over the years to reduce the pain.

If this fix hadn't been made, the AMT would have applied to 34 million taxpayers in 2012 instead of about 4 million. That could have severely disrupted the coming filing season because the IRS would have had to reprogram its computers at the last minute.

IRA charitable donations. This highly popular provision has been extended retroactively, running from the beginning of 2012 to the end of 2013. It allows taxpayers age 70½ and older to donate up to $100,000 of individual-retirement-account assets directly to a charity and count the contribution as part of the person's required withdrawals from the account, which kick in after 70½.

While the taxpayer can't take a deduction for the gift, neither does the gift count as income to him or her. So this donation can help reduce adjusted gross income and thus minimize Medicare premiums or taxes on Social Security benefits.

IRA owners were supposed to take required payouts for 2012 by Dec. 31, and the new law wasn't signed until Jan. 2. But taxpayers who took IRA withdrawals in December can give up to $100,000 of that payout to one or more qualified charities and take the charitable IRA donation. In addition, taxpayers can make 2012 IRA donations through Jan. 31. Details should be coming soon in IRS guidance, according to an agency spokesman.

Other "extenders." This term refers to a host of temporary provisions, some of which expired at the beginning of 2012 and some at the end.

Several popular expired provisions were made retroactive to the beginning of 2012 and now will be in effect to the end of 2013. They include the deduction for state sales tax in lieu of state and local income taxes; the $250 deduction for teachers' classroom expenses; and a benefit for employer assistance with mass-transit and vanpool costs.

The law also extended for five years the American Opportunity Tax Credit; for many taxpayers this is the most valuable education benefit, worth up to $2,500 per college student per year.
Lawmakers also included a one-year extension of current "bonus" depreciation rules, which allow businesses to deduct up to 50% of the cost of a wide variety of property and equipment, excluding real estate.

Estate and gift tax. The estate- and gift-tax exemption will remain at $5 million per individual—not the $3.5 million sought by President Barack Obama. But the current 35% top tax rate on amounts above the exemption will increase to 40%. These changes are permanent.

The exemption will also remain indexed for inflation, so the 2013 amount will be more than the 2012 exemption of $5.12 million. The IRS hasn't announced the 2013 adjustment.

In addition, the estate and gift tax will remain "unified," meaning an individual can use his or her entire exemption to make gifts while alive instead of waiting until death.

In past years, the gift-tax exemption was often much smaller than the estate-tax exemption, which limited the early transfer of assets that were growing in value. The large gift-tax exemption provides many planning opportunities to the wealthy.

The recently added "portability" provision also is permanent now. It allows a dead spouse's estate to transfer to the survivor any unused portion of the $5 million exemption. This means a married couple doesn't lose out on their total $10 million exemption simply because they didn't engage in predeath legal planning.

Several restrictions advocated by the Obama administration also didn't make it into the law. Long-running "dynasty trusts"—which can shelter assets from estate taxes for hundreds of years—weren't limited to a maximum term of 90 years. "Defective grantor trusts," another estate-planning technique, don't have new limits, either.

And the minimum term remains two years for another estate-and-gift-minimizing technique called a "grantor-retained annuity trust." The Obama administration and others wanted to trim its benefits by lengthening the term to 10 years.

Volkerball
Oct 15, 2009

by FactsAreUseless

Lmao.

Paracaidas
Sep 24, 2016
Consistently Tedious!

But where's the doggo?

Randler
Jan 3, 2013

ACER ET VEHEMENS BONAVIS

Paracaidas posted:

But where's the doggo?

Well, y'know, it was the Obama presidency... :foxnews:

Rhesus Pieces
Jun 27, 2005

https://twitter.com/bluamethyst/status/843426340913201153

Holy poo poo

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013





wtf

Ghost of Reagan Past
Oct 7, 2003

rock and roll fun
:eyepop:

Volkerball
Oct 15, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
HEY GUYS THAT'S A BIG COCK

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




anyone here who has used a cheapish remington foil shaver?

Volkerball
Oct 15, 2009

by FactsAreUseless

cinci zoo sniper posted:

anyone here who has used a cheapish remington foil shaver?

Get the istubble.

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




Volkerball posted:

Get the istubble.
i dont need tools for that

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011





it turns out that ligur is the purest of us all, did not see that coming

Volkerball
Oct 15, 2009

by FactsAreUseless

cinci zoo sniper posted:

i dont need tools for that

What

Volkerball
Oct 15, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
I tried that Georgia gold chicken from KFC and that poo poo is dank. My whole car smells like honey mustard now

Randler
Jan 3, 2013

ACER ET VEHEMENS BONAVIS
People who bought the iStubble also bought:

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




my stubble grows naturally

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




cinci zoo sniper posted:

my stubble grows naturally

congrats?

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Volkerball
Oct 15, 2009

by FactsAreUseless

cinci zoo sniper posted:

my stubble grows naturally

The istubble is what you use to buzz it short again once it has grown too much.

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