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I don't think the arty truck has actually changed aside from the fact that emergency repair only heals 10 HP now (though it also clears all disables). Which is probably for the best because an instant 30 HP was some dumbass poo poo.
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Are the new timers as stupid as as the old ones for the mortar where respawning doesn't reset them?
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Mar 18, 2017 21:52
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TheOneAndOnlyT posted:I don't think the arty truck has actually changed aside from the fact that emergency repair only heals 10 HP now (though it also clears all disables). Which is probably for the best because an instant 30 HP was some dumbass poo poo. That seems more reasonable than decreasing the armor. I can probably live with that.
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Mar 18, 2017 21:53
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Finger Prince posted:Are the new timers as stupid as as the old ones for the mortar where respawning doesn't reset them? Yes it's unchanged. I still love the mortar even when playing by myself. But it's so clutch when folks are spotting.
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Mar 18, 2017 21:55
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humpthewind posted:Did they nerf the AA damage or the range? Feels like the damage but I still tore apart some pub planes last night. They nerfed the damage hits do. They also removed the loss of control caused by shells going off near you. Which is great because I'm sure I've crashed because of AA more that I've actually been shot down by it.
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Mar 18, 2017 21:57
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Jedi Knight Luigi posted:Yes it's unchanged. I still love the mortar even when playing by myself. But it's so clutch when folks are spotting. Sorry, i meant the new timers for the grenades, do they reset when you die and respawn?
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Mar 18, 2017 22:11
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verdun heights owns, my last game last night turned into a smokey hell scape were both teams threw themselves at each other with no regard of flanking so i just started mortoring things.I could get two or three kills with an HE mortar, but could probably get a kill per shot if people bothered with spotting flares.
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Mar 18, 2017 22:24
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Both of the new operations are top tier. Devils Anvil is maybe a little too defender favored but it's such a blast and winning barely matters in this game anyway
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Mar 18, 2017 22:37
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FastestGunAlive posted:What did they change about it Quick repair only does 10 points recovery. Ammo feels a touch slower to regen too. I met the DICE community manager at SXSW, told him we need more tanks and more server options. He said "we're working on it". My southern upbringing prevented me from shaking him while yelling "stop listening to Reddit". Raskolnikov2089 fucked around with this message at 23:18 on Mar 18, 2017 |
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Mar 18, 2017 23:16
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That's cool. Someone else said one of the dlc maps had four per a side so that's a start. But I've honestly accepted that tanks may never get love in bf1. Hopefully they revisit ww2 again next game. that will be perfect for all vehicles while allowing infantry to have plenty of anti vehicle options.
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Raskolnikov2089 posted:Quick repair only does 10 points recovery. Ammo feels a touch slower to regen too. reddit's bf1 community is probably 100x the size of SA's so you should get used to them listening to reddit.
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TBeats posted:reddit's bf1 community is probably 100x the size of SA's so you should get used to them listening to reddit. Doesn't change the fact that they're a bunch of whiny bitches who complain about any perceived advantage. The CTE sub-reddit is the epitome of "X killed me twice, therefore it needs to be nerfed" Raskolnikov2089 fucked around with this message at 02:40 on Mar 19, 2017 |
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Mar 19, 2017 02:31
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So what's the new grenade rule? I was medic a few nights ago and the inability to fill 180 degrees around me with gas is troublesome.
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Mar 19, 2017 03:17
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how do tanks not get love the DLC has literally 2 wide open maps with more tanks than ever before, a new type of tank that owns, and the behemoth is literally a giant super tank!!!
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Mar 19, 2017 03:18
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Scrub-Niggurath posted:how do tanks not get love the DLC has literally 2 wide open maps with more tanks than ever before, a new type of tank that owns, and the behemoth is literally a giant super tank!!! Yeah individual tanks are less powerful than before, but the new map with up to SIX tanks is fun as hell. Everyone seems to run assault/medic there now because of the overwhelming tank force.
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Mar 19, 2017 03:22
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Well the double xp has kind of skewed my score per minute which is now at 1600. This has made it hilariously easy to rank up though, went from 50 to 65 in a day
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Mar 19, 2017 04:50
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Grabbed a truck finally last night. Quick repair nerf sucks but nothing else was adjusted at least. Twenty or fifteen would be better than ten but that's okay, i was still able to put up big numbers; just couldn't play as close to the front as i would like. Guess dice wants even vehicle whores to play like long range Wookiee poo poo heads
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Live At Five! posted:Well the double xp has kind of skewed my score per minute which is now at 1600. This has made it hilariously easy to rank up though, went from 50 to 65 in a day How long is the double XP thing going for?
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Mar 19, 2017 18:14
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FastestGunAlive posted:Grabbed a truck finally last night. Quick repair nerf sucks but nothing else was adjusted at least. Twenty or fifteen would be better than ten but that's okay, i was still able to put up big numbers; just couldn't play as close to the front as i would like. The whole vehicle quick repair thing really pissed some people off. I don't get it personally, tanks are more vulnerable than they ever have been. I mean if a single assault gets in close range with you and they know what they are doing they can kill you fairly easily. And dear lord are you hosed if multiple assaults start spamming AT rockets at you. Hell, every class has access to light antitank grenades, which take a decent chunk of health off.
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Mar 19, 2017 18:27
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lambskin posted:The whole vehicle quick repair thing really pissed some people off. I don't get it personally, tanks are more vulnerable than they ever have been. I mean if a single assault gets in close range with you and they know what they are doing they can kill you fairly easily. And dear lord are you hosed if multiple assaults start spamming AT rockets at you. Hell, every class has access to light antitank grenades, which take a decent chunk of health off. Tanks are supposed to be vulnerable if you push too hard. Armor doesn't make you some invincible battering ram--if you're playing like an idiot (and letting an Assault get that close is pretty idiotic) then you should get hosed up.
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Mar 19, 2017 19:10
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As someone who primarily blows vehicles up tanks in BF1 are a lot tougher to kill than they ever were in BF3/4. I can't just SMAW it three times and be done with it. I can't javelin them. I can't stick three C4 to the side and evaporate it. You can't one man a tank any more. You need multiple people, or a support box, or a real dumb driver.
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Mar 19, 2017 19:11
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In bf4, you've got thermal, prox, and a more generous sporting system which made tanks harder to sneak up on. Tanks were also more durable and faster. Also lol if you're using any launcher besides the smaw or rpg. In bf1, it's easy to take out a light tank or arty truck up close but not so much the heavy and landship because of their armor. In theory armor should die easier in bf1, it's just that pubbies are too dumb to spawn with the rocket rifle. Seriously, two or three people with that is enough to make me gently caress off and retreat, sometimes I'll get disabled running away and then killed. But no, they'd rather do poo poo like I saw last night: stand up on top of a dune and shoot me with a regular rifle for some reason. Thanks for the easy kill.
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BF4 tanks had all sorts of tools to prevent people sneaking up on them, and yet tanks got C4ed all the drat time. BF1 tanks have none of those tools, but nobody ever takes down a tank alone. It's not a question of tools, it's a question of resilience. Tanks were not more "durable" in BF4. They got mobility killed if something sneezed on them and took more damage from launchers. Tanks in BF1 straight-up take more hits to kill, and assaults in BF1 have far less AT ammo to hit with. And again, that's before you even touch emergency repair. I'm fairly certain that there is literally no combination of assault gadgets that will do 130 damage to a heavy tank before running out of ammo.
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You're considering pubbie capability tho, I'm talking about my experiences as a sperg lord. I can say that I was much more durable as a tank in bf4 than I am in 1. I don't even bother with the heavy armor in 1 so I hadn't considered it. I guess we are looking at it from different perspectives but I see what you are saying
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TheOneAndOnlyT posted:BF4 tanks had all sorts of tools to prevent people sneaking up on them, and yet tanks got C4ed all the drat time. BF1 tanks have none of those tools, but nobody ever takes down a tank alone. 3 AT mines dropped right in its path  Of course the even nerfed that an update or two ago, adding a delay between drops so you couldn't lay 3 down as fast as you can pull the trigger. My fave way to take down an arty truck is sneak up and stick a mine in under the front and back bumper while he's aiming at the sky then hit him with a rocket gun round wait for him to run.
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I must be only fighting against dumb pubbies then, since I take down tanks alone decently often. It's not hard to do as support, with the combo of light antitank grenades and limpet charges you should be able to get a disable. Then you just gotta run to cover and resupply yourself. Another big difference I see is that the most popular class happens to be the anti-vehicle class, so it's not uncommon to have multiple AT-rockets being shoved up your rear end. Hell, if you have a support buddy with pouches you will easily have enough ammo to take down a tank.
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Chemmy posted:As someone who primarily blows vehicles up tanks in BF1 are a lot tougher to kill than they ever were in BF3/4. I can't just SMAW it three times and be done with it. I can't javelin them. I can't stick three C4 to the side and evaporate it. as someone who made a career of C4ing tanks in BF3 just lol at the idea that tanks are more vulnerable now. lambskin posted:I must be only fighting against dumb pubbies then, since I take down tanks alone decently often. It's not hard to do as support, with the combo of light antitank grenades and limpet charges you should be able to get a disable. Then you just gotta run to cover and resupply yourself. Another big difference I see is that the most popular class happens to be the anti-vehicle class, so it's not uncommon to have multiple AT-rockets being shoved up your rear end. Hell, if you have a support buddy with pouches you will easily have enough ammo to take down a tank. yyyyeah but that's two throws, a fast approach and drop and wait, the tank is only disabled, run to cover, resupply that's what five steps? I never played 4 but in BF3 and BC2 it was straight up "if I am within sprinting distance of a tank it's loving dead as soon as I can smash the trigger". I get the argument for multiple people with AT rockets because of the higher number of players, though, so it makes sense that there's more resilience, but holy poo poo. Come the end of BC2 being in a tank was almost a disadvantage!
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lambskin posted:I must be only fighting against dumb pubbies then, since I take down tanks alone decently often. It's not hard to do as support, with the combo of light antitank grenades and limpet charges you should be able to get a disable. Then you just gotta run to cover and resupply yourself. Another big difference I see is that the most popular class happens to be the anti-vehicle class, so it's not uncommon to have multiple AT-rockets being shoved up your rear end. Hell, if you have a support buddy with pouches you will easily have enough ammo to take down a tank. Congrats on your limpeting ability, your support soldier must have not skipped arm day at the gym. I can't even throw the thing far enough to stick to a house ceiling, let alone to a slowly moving tank, looking on in impotence as the limpet falls to the ground and the tank trundles off at a leisurely walking pace.
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Finger Prince posted:Congrats on your limpeting ability, your support soldier must have not skipped arm day at the gym. I can't even throw the thing far enough to stick to a house ceiling, let alone to a slowly moving tank, looking on in impotence as the limpet falls to the ground and the tank trundles off at a leisurely walking pace. I'll admit, I've ended up throwing the limpet at my feet a fair amount of times. I just feel like I could survive easier in BF4 as a tank, as long as I kept my eye out for sneaky flankers. Once you got good with the smoke screen you didn't really need to worry about lock-ons. The other big difference I feel is that every class has some anti-tank options, though some are less powerful than before.(looking at you K-bullet)
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The fact that you can't frisbee the limpet is a tragedy
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e.pilot posted:How long is the double XP thing going for? Today
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Mar 19, 2017 21:04
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M1903 Experimental trip report: still not good, closer to being not bad.
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Limpets are best used to remodel buildings from shabby two story hovels into beautiful single story with super tall ceilings.
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Mar 19, 2017 21:13
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I'm the guy who will dynamite the building that teammates are camping in when we are playing domination.
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FastestGunAlive posted:You're considering pubbie capability tho, I'm talking about my experiences as a sperg lord. I can say that I was much more durable as a tank in bf4 than I am in 1. I don't even bother with the heavy armor in 1 so I hadn't considered it. I guess we are looking at it from different perspectives but I see what you are saying
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I agree, their armor sucks. It's frustrating to fire and hit with all my arty rounds at a clueless heavy tank and it still not be destroyed because of ricochets. And a full dynamite load should definitely destroy any tank, like c4 in the older game
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Mar 19, 2017 22:55
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I have no problem with how durable the tanks are but gently caress ricochets forever
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Mar 19, 2017 23:36
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st chamond mortar version is pimp, if you get the bounce right it will explode above a plane and kill pilots. also kills infantry without exploding if you headshot them on the full. haven't had a ricochet when shooting at other vehicles either. not a game winner but fun as gently caress
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Finally unlocked the hellriegel, and just as I suspected, there is absolutely 0 skill required to use that gun. When a noob cannon.
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Has anyone ever won as germans on Devils Anvil or lost as the French on the Marne operation?
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