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Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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the post you are quoting is not true and based on what i can glean without letting myself be spoiled it's essentially ME2's ending

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Dr. Abysmal
Feb 17, 2010

We're all doomed
They built in a feature to fast forward through the credits at 8x speed

DeNomolos
Jan 10, 2013

mild mannered meatspin historian
So, I'm starting ME2 to see if these games get better than ME1, and I immediately hate this universe all over again after the first few minutes. It feels like I'm working for Space Trump and the space racist CIA, and that's supposed to be rad. The alien races are all lazy, mono culture stereotypes, and of course one is in the, "banking, selling each other out constantly, tiny monster men" style. It's like Star Trek by neo-cons. The Codex reads like a propaganda piece against all the aliens that aren't part of the council.


I feel like I'm one step away from meeting like, Space Hitler and loving them after a really rushed love story.

And male Shep talks like a dweeb.

Schlesische
Jul 4, 2012

Fojar38 posted:

the post you are quoting is not true and based on what i can glean without letting myself be spoiled it's essentially ME2's ending

From I can glean without letting myself be spoiled it's the worst parts of the ME2 ending with the worst parts of the ME1 ending.
Which is bad, but I don't know if "it's worse than the ME3 ending" fits.

ChuckDeNomolos posted:

So, I'm starting ME2 to see if these games get better than ME1, and I immediately hate this universe all over again after the first few minutes. It feels like I'm working for Space Trump and the space racist CIA, and that's supposed to be rad. The alien races are all lazy, mono culture stereotypes, and of course one is in the, "banking, selling each other out constantly, tiny monster men" style. It's like Star Trek by neo-cons. The Codex reads like a propaganda piece against all the aliens that aren't part of the council.


I feel like I'm one step away from meeting like, Space Hitler and loving them after a really rushed love story.

And male Shep talks like a dweeb.

You are playing for space hitler, and are part of space racist CIA in ME2.

Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011

Dr. Abysmal posted:

They built in a feature to fast forward through the credits at 8x speed

Eh that's not bad. I think a lot of games have some sort of speed up credits button, so you can find the thing you're looking for.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
---------------------------->

Schlesische posted:

From I can glean without letting myself be spoiled it's the worst parts of the ME2 ending with the worst parts of the ME1 ending.
Which is bad, but I don't know if "it's worse than the ME3 ending" fits.

what were the worst parts of those endings

Milkfred E. Moore
Aug 27, 2006

'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'

Fojar38 posted:

the post you are quoting is not true and based on what i can glean without letting myself be spoiled it's essentially ME2's ending

it's really not

really, really not

ME:A has the worst ending of any ME game. it's almost absurd. gameplay, story, execution - it's all bad.

Hedrigall
Mar 27, 2008

by vyelkin

Drifter posted:

Not only should you feel weird, but you should also feel absolutely filthy and disgusted.

Aww you really do care! :kiddo:

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
---------------------------->

Milky Moor posted:

it's really not

really, really not

ME:A has the worst ending of any ME game. it's almost absurd. gameplay, story, execution - it's all bad.

mmhmm sure

Dr. Abysmal
Feb 17, 2010

We're all doomed

Grondoth posted:

Eh that's not bad. I think a lot of games have some sort of speed up credits button, so you can find the thing you're looking for.

I didn't say it was a bad thing. It's a good thing.

runaway dog
Dec 11, 2005

I rarely go into the field, motherfucker.
The Kett look like texture swapped Protheans.

Schlesische
Jul 4, 2012

Fojar38 posted:

what were the worst parts of those endings

Bad sequel hook in ME2, meaningless plot choices in ME1.

Having said that, the sequel for ME2 had been planned before the development of ME1 (it just happened that there was a significant detour in the story writing department halfway through) and the meaningless plot choices in ME1 were overshadowed by the less meaningless ones.

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

Milky Moor posted:

yeah, it's not even in doubt

this ending is really terrible

mash halo 4 into starcraft 2 and there it is

Outside of the story being garbage, the final mission is that you :siren: *spoiler for the last fight mechanics/setting so don't click* :siren: do a bland techno reskin of the collector base then fight baby reaper redux at the end (for loving ages), but it only has one weak spot this time and is a remote control octopus or some poo poo

Also the credits song.

Milky Moor posted:

it's really not

really, really not

ME:A has the worst ending of any ME game. it's almost absurd. gameplay, story, execution - it's all bad.

The gameplay isn't dissimilar outside of looking less fun.

monster on a stick
Apr 29, 2013

I'll explain: I did not like the ME3 ending but at least it tried to do something a bit unique even if it failed. ME:A is just plain lazy, generic big arena battle complete with "shoot the glowy bit" and a shoehorned choice at the end because someone must have said "HEY WHERE'S THE BIG CHOICE :byodood: THIS IS A BIOWARE GAME I WANT MY BIG CHOICE :byodood:" and it pretty clearly means nothing, it even TELLS you this. Also the stinger someone mentioned is a generic Marvel Movie stinger showing the Bigger Bad. Maybe there is a lot of story stuff I missed to give it context but it's not very good.

It's definitely not comparable to ME1/ME2 endings even the worst parts of them are still pretty drat good.

Milkfred E. Moore
Aug 27, 2006

'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'

Fojar38 posted:

mmhmm sure

do you want me to post it

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
---------------------------->

Schlesische posted:

Bad sequel hook in ME2, meaningless plot choices in ME1 (although, granted there were other plot choices that mattered a great deal more in ME1 that won't be there in MEA).

the sequel hook in me2 with all the reapers in space was awesome though and ME1's meaningless plot choices didn't become meaningless until ME2 and that's because of when the final save was

Funky See Funky Do
Aug 20, 2013
STILL TRYING HARD
Oh man, his bad guy monologues are making me cringe. "The Remnant serve me now. Meee!"

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
---------------------------->

Milky Moor posted:

do you want me to post it

it's already been posted in several links

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

JBP posted:

The gameplay isn't dissimilar outside of looking less fun.
Nah the gameplay is good.

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006

Guys why do we keep returning to this, the Mass Effect series is absolute poo poo, as are all video games. Mass Effect Andromeda is no different and is therefore good.

buglord
Jul 31, 2010

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!

Buglord

Realtalk do any AAA games ever hit below this? 9 seems to be GOTY, 8 is below-expectations, and 7 is this weird death sentence to mediocrity. It seems like 6 and below are reserved for games that aren't from gigantic publishers.

Schlesische
Jul 4, 2012

Fojar38 posted:

the sequel hook in me2 with all the reapers in space was awesome though and ME1's meaningless plot choices didn't become meaningless until ME2 and that's because of when the final save was

It's how the sequel hook was done with that lame conversation with the reaper that was poo poo, not the cutscene itself.

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

Doctor Spaceman posted:

Nah the gameplay is good.

I am specifically talking about the end sequence, where you could be playing with MGSV equivalent mechanics and still be going "this is poo poo, when does it end?"

Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

Belated Bear Witness
Soiled Meat

Hedrigall posted:

Aww you really do care! :kiddo:

That's not a smiley face, it's actually a ME5 alien dual butthole action with a little mono-chin ball dangly bit underneath.

It's presenting.

monster on a stick
Apr 29, 2013

Schlesische posted:

Bad sequel hook in ME2, meaningless plot choices in ME1.

Having said that, the sequel for ME2 had been planned before the development of ME1 (it just happened that there was a significant detour in the story writing department halfway through) and the meaningless plot choices in ME1 were overshadowed by the less meaningless ones.

Wrong, ME2 had a great sequel hook with the suicide mission just over, having told TIM off, then you look out the window and gently caress REAPERS EVERYWHERE WE GONNA DIE as the music came up, that was awesome.

ME1 had a choice which they threw aside in later games because they wanted Anderson on Earth for ME3, but at least it sounded like you were helping set the tone with how humans dealt with the Council.

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

buglord posted:

Realtalk do any AAA games ever hit below this? 9 seems to be GOTY, 8 is below-expectations, and 7 is this weird death sentence to mediocrity. It seems like 6 and below are reserved for games that aren't from gigantic publishers.

7 is the point of no return when it comes to being supplied review copies in future.

monster on a stick
Apr 29, 2013

Schlesische posted:

It's how the sequel hook was done with that lame conversation with the reaper that was poo poo, not the cutscene itself.

Are you talking about Harbinger talking at you at the end of the core game or the end of Arrival?

Schlesische
Jul 4, 2012

buglord posted:

Realtalk do any AAA games ever hit below this? 9 seems to be GOTY, 8 is below-expectations, and 7 is this weird death sentence to mediocrity. It seems like 6 and below are reserved for games that aren't from gigantic publishers.

No. And to prove it:
http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-4/assassins-creed-unity/critic-reviews

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
---------------------------->
what would a good mass effect ending look like exactly because now people are shittalking me1 and 2's endings as well

Milkfred E. Moore
Aug 27, 2006

'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'
so, the beginning is bad and the end is bad

will the middle be excellent?

Burkion
May 10, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Admiral Ray posted:

Tailor your jokes to your audience:



You know, Alabama, good on you for not being one of the pseudo incest states.


You dodge that cliche.

Rookersh
Aug 19, 2010
Reminder.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLlAObjR-gs

This is the actual ME3 ending.

You also have the fight across the Citadel with Anderson, and your deaths.

The leadup to all this is also brilliant and great.

The problem with the ME3 ending wasn't the buildup, or execution. It was Walters little tacked on bit about how no, it's actually all about ethics in synthetic relations. Once you separate that from the rest of ME3, either through a mod or just alt-F4ing as Shepard closes their eyes/dies near the end you can make ME3 have a better ending.

You cannot make ME:A have a better ending.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
---------------------------->

Milky Moor posted:

so, the beginning is bad and the end is bad

will the middle be excellent?

actually the beginning is good and from the sounds of it the ending is good as well when taken in context

Funky See Funky Do
Aug 20, 2013
STILL TRYING HARD

Burkion posted:

You know, Alabama, good on you for not being one of the pseudo incest states.


You dodge that cliche.

I'm not 100% with my American geography but are all the incest states places with small population density? Might explain a lot.

Turbl
Nov 8, 2007


Milky Moor posted:

so, the beginning is bad and the end is bad

will the middle be excellent?

Yes because that's where the banging happens

Schlesische
Jul 4, 2012

Fojar38 posted:

actually the beginning is good and from the sounds of it the ending is good as well when taken in context

I'm a fan and spend most of my time defending this game from overt criticism but the beginning is a slog and the ending looks pretty generic.

Hedrigall
Mar 27, 2008

by vyelkin
Wait this alien gently caress sim has a plot?

Dolash
Oct 23, 2008

aNYWAY,
tHAT'S REALLY ALL THERE IS,
tO REPORT ON THE SUBJECT,
oF ME GETTING HURT,


Had a half-hour left with the trial so I put together a tricked-out Revenant since that was my favorite gun in ME2 and 3, but it took too long to make and I'd already killed all the enemies I could find on the first planet so I spent five minutes driving around looking to find something cool to shoot and failed.

Twenty four hours of not knowing how rad my machine gun is, the agony.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
---------------------------->

Rookersh posted:

Reminder.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLlAObjR-gs

This is the actual ME3 ending.

You also have the fight across the Citadel with Anderson, and your deaths.

The leadup to all this is also brilliant and great.

The problem with the ME3 ending wasn't the buildup, or execution. It was Walters little tacked on bit about how no, it's actually all about ethics in synthetic relations. Once you separate that from the rest of ME3, either through a mod or just alt-F4ing as Shepard closes their eyes/dies near the end you can make ME3 have a better ending.

You cannot make ME:A have a better ending.

are you really polishing ME3's ending because ME:A absolutely has to be the worst thing ever

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Admiral Ray
May 17, 2014

Proud Musk and Dogecoin fanboy

Hedrigall posted:

Wait this alien gently caress sim has a plot?

#playitfortheplot

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