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It would be great if Vegas took Jori Lehterä's terrible contract off the Blues hands. Maybe they can throw in Sobotka and a 3rd to get Vegas to agree.
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Mar 20, 2017 18:57
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JawKnee posted:a few lucky teams are probably going to get a good hunk of cap space back If the Rangers protect Dan Girardi I'm going to cry like a little girl who just had her brother burn her dollies hair in the stove. I mean, even to reach the floor I doubt any team would take that contract on, but give me my millimeter of hope.
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Mar 20, 2017 19:08
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Overwined posted:If the Rangers protect Dan Girardi I'm going to cry like a little girl who just had her brother burn her dollies hair in the stove. I mean, even to reach the floor I doubt any team would take that contract on, but give me my millimeter of hope. They have to protect Girardi. He has a NMC.
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Mar 20, 2017 19:08
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A Typical Goon posted:They only need to reach 60% of the cap floor in their first year I thought? Yeah but that forces you to take some boat anchor guys on bad contracts instead of just cheap RFAs. https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3780857&pagenumber=33&perpage=40#post469606008 this guy didn't know the salary minimum and ended up with a 22MM team
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Mar 20, 2017 19:11
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Mind_Taker posted:They have to protect Girardi. He has a NMC. I tried to cry, but I just ended up laughing really hard then I blacked out and all the neighbors cats lay beheaded at my feet.
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Mar 20, 2017 19:12
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I was looking through some of the online comments about Tkachuk, and I have to say that it's kinda nice that the Flames have a guy who inspires that kind of passionate, vitriolic hatred among other fanbases. Been a while since we had that.
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Mar 20, 2017 19:19
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Overwined posted:I tried to cry, but I just ended up laughing really hard then I blacked out and all the neighbors cats lay beheaded at my feet. It's OK they're going to buy him out before it becomes an issue Right?
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Mar 20, 2017 19:32
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Soft Shell Crab posted:Remember the right wing nutjobs that were after Obama's birth certificate? You are that on the other side of the fence. Those right wing nuts though they were also reasonable. But enough about hockey. How dare you liken me to a Bruins fan.
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Mar 20, 2017 19:34
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hifi posted:Yeah but that forces you to take some boat anchor guys on bad contracts instead of just cheap RFAs. https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3780857&pagenumber=33&perpage=40#post469606008 this guy didn't know the salary minimum and ended up with a 22MM team Does Vegas need the 60% figure at the end of the draft or can they wait and massively overpay dudes in FA?
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Mar 20, 2017 19:37
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Does Vegas need the 60% figure at the end of the draft or can they wait and massively overpay dudes in FA? They can overpay Jagr in poker chips. They'll get it back.
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Mar 20, 2017 19:40
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Does Vegas need the 60% figure at the end of the draft or can they wait and massively overpay dudes in FA? I think they have to have it by the start of the season.
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Mar 20, 2017 19:47
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They only need to take 32.4m in the expansion draft, which averaged to 1.08m per player taken. They'll probably only need 1 overpriced player to hit that mark, my guess is they take a guy that's over priced but not horrible so no Girardi or whatever. Bobby Ryan is my guess
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Mar 20, 2017 19:49
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they could just pay out a bunch of money in free agency too
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Mar 20, 2017 19:55
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* The Las Vegas franchise must select players with an aggregate Expansion Draft value that is between 60-100% of the prior season's upper limit for the salary cap. from nhl.com
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Mar 20, 2017 19:56
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is that 15/16 or 16/17? Either way they have to equal north of 40 million
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Mar 20, 2017 19:59
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JawKnee posted:is that 15/16 or 16/17? Either way they have to equal north of 40 million 16/17 as I read it.
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Mar 20, 2017 20:01
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hifi posted:* The Las Vegas franchise must select players with an aggregate Expansion Draft value that is between 60-100% of the prior season's upper limit for the salary cap. oh, well then
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Mar 20, 2017 20:06
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UFAs and RFAs can be signed in the vegas draft and they count for a player selected from their team too.
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Mar 20, 2017 20:08
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I am super disappointed that I probably won't get to know for sure whether Benning protects Sbisa/Gudbranson/Sutter or not
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Mar 20, 2017 20:11
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So are the protection lists public or private?
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Mar 20, 2017 20:35
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I think they decided on private?
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Mar 20, 2017 20:37
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It's not decided yet. They backtracked when everyone called them morons
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Mar 20, 2017 20:45
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I know it's probably only big nerds who care, but why hold back? I can't think of a single reason other than maybe they don't want us to know how stupid most gms actually are (we know). Do they actually have a secret no-fun policy? E: nah, I gave it some more thought. It's gotta be like 60 out-of-touch and 40 incompetence/stupidity.
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Mar 20, 2017 20:54
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hifi posted:UFAs and RFAs can be signed in the vegas draft and they count for a player selected from their team too. Serious question: Does Vegas take Scott Darling?
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Mar 20, 2017 20:55
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JoelJoel posted:I know it's probably only big nerds who care, but why hold back? I can't think of a single reason other than maybe they don't want us to know how stupid most gms actually are (we know). They want all their players to feel needed!
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Mar 20, 2017 20:56
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JoelJoel posted:I know it's probably only big nerds who care, but why hold back? I can't think of a single reason other than maybe they don't want us to know how stupid most gms actually are (we know). The league cares more about its GMs than it does its fans, it's really as simple (and bush league) as that
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Mar 20, 2017 21:16
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How did Paul Byron suddenly become good this year?
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Mar 20, 2017 21:29
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HootTheOwl posted:They want all their players to feel needed! It is this. It really sucks to be left off the team or whatever no matter how old you are and there isn't really any good reason to alienate a good chunk of the league who get left unprotected but go un-chosen.
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Mar 20, 2017 21:34
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I would definitely expect the millionaire adult athletes to both have thicker skin, and more intelligence than teenagers on a high school team, or at least to be honest with themselves over who is better than them
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Mar 20, 2017 21:35
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JawKnee posted:I would definitely expect the millionaire adult athletes to both have thicker skin, and more intelligence than teenagers on a high school team, or at least to be honest with themselves over who is better than them img_hangmanbananasplit.jpg
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Mar 20, 2017 21:38
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bewbies posted:It is this. They're professional athletes and get paid millions of dollars in part to compensate for the criticism they get in the public sphere. If they're welling up over the idea that they're not one of the top 8 forwards on their team, they shouldn't be in the league. If anything they should use it as motivation to improve and prove they are worth protecting in any future expansion drafts. This is the entertainment business, there's no good reason not to release the protection lists. Hell, the chances of any player even bothering to look up which teammates were protected over them is minimal at best.
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Mar 20, 2017 21:40
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The players who go unprotected would likely knew that they were anyway, as I can imagine any half decent agent letting their client stay in dark about whether they're able to be picked.
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Mar 20, 2017 21:46
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JawKnee posted:I would definitely expect the millionaire adult athletes to both have thicker skin, and more intelligence than teenagers on a high school team, or at least to be honest with themselves over who is better than them They don't, though, I promise you, especially when it comes to something very deliberate like protected lists. From a management perspective it doesn't make any sense at all to publically devalue your workers...even if they probably know they weren't protected, you don't have to wave it in their faces when you gain nothing aside from the approval of a handful of particularly obsessive fans. bewbies fucked around with this message at 21:51 on Mar 20, 2017 |
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Mar 20, 2017 21:46
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Chad Sexington posted:How dare you liken me to a Bruins fan. Sorry. I went too far.
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Mar 20, 2017 21:51
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Okay, we should make the draft secret as well. I mean, feelings might get hurt if a player doesn't get selected as high as another. Oh, and free agency tells players what their peers are worth. That could hurt their feelings too! Better make all contracts secret. loving bush league.
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Mar 20, 2017 22:20
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JawKnee posted:I would definitely expect the millionaire adult athletes to both have thicker skin, and more intelligence than teenagers on a high school team, or at least to be honest with themselves over who is better than them Hahaha yeah right Anyways there's literally nothing for owners to gain from publicizing the lists aside from temporarily silencing the bleating of fans who somehow think they're entitled to this information.
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Mar 20, 2017 22:24
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JoelJoel posted:Okay, we should make the draft secret as well. I mean, feelings might get hurt if a player doesn't get selected as high as another. I disagree with you. If they keep it secret, it would be one of the few things the NHL does that isn't bush league. It's disrespectful, can be hurtful and there's literally no benefit other than creating a spectacle. Using the draft to rationalize it doesn't make sense. That happens before they are employees of the team. I also disagree with the idea that part of what the players get compensated for is to endure public scrutiny and to forfeit privacy in regard to their contract. That actually seems pretty lovely to me. On the other hand I'm really curious and I love the spectacle so I hope it's all public.
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Mar 20, 2017 22:26
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HappyHippo posted:How did Paul Byron suddenly become good this year? Byron has been surprisingly good since Montreal claimed him off waivers. He's having a career high season. Also helps that they're not tying Brian Flynn and Steve Ott-shaped anchors to him and slotting him in the top-9 like they're supposed to. Calgary should give up Dougie Hamilton to the Habs. I hear he's a bum that likes partying too much.
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yellowcar posted:Byron has been surprisingly good since Montreal claimed him off waivers. He's having a career high season. Also helps that they're not tying Brian Flynn and Steve Ott-shaped anchors to him and slotting him in the top-9 like they're supposed to. They'd just waste him by sticking him with Emelin, why bother
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